a) are school kids, who rush home after school and play until they fall asleep
b) people who took a few days off to play the game
c) people without jobs
d) or students having holidays
I'm not judging anyone of course. We all have only one life, and should do what makes us most happy.
I personally play the game about daily, and my character is now... what was it... level 16 or 17. Getting to 80 that quickly, phew... But I also got a full time job, cook my own food, visit friends for parties and birthdays and board game evenings and whatnot.
As well as those of us old enough to not have families at home anymore. So, 8-10 hours a day online isn't tough to do. I could go outside and "do" something, but man, it's scary out there...
I have a great job doing 37.5hours a week where I CANT play. My job is great, I have a over the average salary and noone in my place could say that I play videogames a lot. Those that know me yes, but it is not a problem at my job. I didnt arrive late since gw2 released. Didnt took any day off or anything.
I have a great girlfriend who knows I like video games, but even there I spent a lot of time with her in the last 2 weeks and she doesn't even complain on how much I played.
I have plenty of friend, went to a swimming party on saturday and a drunk party on frinday night ( monday was off in quebec ). Monday I went to a beer fest... so yea an active social life
Getting to 80 in this game is really easy. On the saturday of the release I played A LOT it was brand new and I was off, my gf was working from 9 to 5 so I woke up at midnight and played till like 6pm. So that was a no-life rush.
Since I leveled doing map completion from like 1-60 quite fast playing around 3-4 hours a day ( from 9pm to midnight-1am ) while my gf sleeps. And on the weekend day while my gf works and that i'm not doing a social life ( even the first saturday i had 3 friend with me at my home playing ).
From 60-80 if you wanna level fast just do event loops , it will take you like 3 hours even less to get 6-7 levels, and crafting will give you like 10 levels in an hour... So yea you can be 80 and be something else than a no-life.. You just sleep a bit less for 2 weeks :P
Get into the highest level maps you can manage. Run like crap around all the WP's.
Find the DE zerg.
Chain the DE's.
Level.
Rinse and repeat on the next highest level map. You will note that alot of the time, the DE zerg makes you complete Hearts as well as allows you to take on a load of skill points which are nearby the zerg pathway.
I would add crafting to that but if you are talking about speed, unless someone is handing you mats/gold left right and centre then past a point it wont be much use.
Go back and do the rest at your leisure, or move to WvWvW which is why I would imagine a fair few of use are blitzing through the DE grind first.
"Come and have a look at what you could have won."
Crafting and just doing events and the likes mostly. Picking and chosing battles. I am a no lifer but I truthfully couldn't stand playing the game over 2 hours at a time (few rare exceptions) and I've hit cap two days ago.
Its extremely easy to do, achievable in under 3 days play time (even quicker really, considering some of that time is PvP and a good chunk sitting in town afk not really feeling in the mood to play) so if your continuely doing stuff its no problem.
Biggest mistake you can do in leveling 'slow' (if you call it a mistake) is doing every single thing in a zone (some hearts are terrible exp for the effort needed to finish), avoiding events, avoiding personal story, and doing low level stuff over stuff near your level. Once your lvl 70 just find the zerg, follow, then tap boss and afk and walla, easy mode.
Get into the highest level maps you can manage. Run like crap around all the WP's.
Find the DE zerg.
Chain the DE's.
Level.
Rinse and repeat on the next highest level map. You will note that alot of the time, the DE zerg makes you complete Hearts as well as allows you to take on a load of skill points which are nearby the zerg pathway.
I would add crafting to that but if you are talking about speed, unless someone is handing you mats/gold left right and centre then past a point it wont be much use.
Go back and do the rest at your leisure, or move to WvWvW which is why I would imagine a fair few of use are blitzing through the DE grind first.
What's a good "High Level Map" for running DE's? My level 10 necromancer can literally run around level 80 zones, and obviously get to them, without issue. The problem is that I don't KNOW which maps are the best for DEs!!
I tried some 40-50 zones, but i could never find a DE running in those in the couple of hours I was in them (I believe the one or two after Kessex Hills).
Is there a better 40-50 or even 50-70 zone I can go to for DEs? My Necromancer went from 10 to 35 in 3hrs in Kessex Hills spamming those western DE's :P!
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I am level 75 currently. I have had two three day weekends, beyond that I work 8 to 4:30 each day. I've played the game and enjoyed it. I've kept up with my story quest and I gather, I have not crafted very much.
Full map completion gets your character from starting level --> starting level + 7-8, lots of exp for hearts, doing random DEs, picking up supplies, doing dailies.
After I go back to craft since my inventory keeps yelling at me because it's full. I get 4-5 levels easy from crafting. Sadly that crafting basically made me outlevel any zone that I wanted to complete next, but since experience and need for that specific crafting supplies came up, I would do the zone anyway.
Story line quest gets about 3-4 bars of experience each. Making a level every 3-4 quests. Not much, but significant enough.
I have only played about 10-20 hours, if that, at level 80. I have probly gained about 20 levels+ bonus from doing the two 70+ zones full clear, finishing up story line and trying to finish crafting.
It really isn't that hard... I don't like running around with a huge pack of people doing DEs all day because thats boring to me. If I see a DE, I might do it, but when there are 20+ people running around zerging everything, its hard to really do anything by yourself for the challenge.
But honestly, you act like this game really doesn't make leveling a cake walk when you get rediculous amounts of experience from crafting and map completion.
I have 55 hours played on /age. I'm lvl 49 but also lvl 15 on sPVP. And let me tell you, sPVP will take FOREVER to hit lvl 100. If anyone is looking for a grind sPVP is the place to go Right now I need 4000 glory per level and I average about 100-150 per match. It's over 30 matches per level.
Get into the highest level maps you can manage. Run like crap around all the WP's.
Find the DE zerg.
Chain the DE's.
Level.
Rinse and repeat on the next highest level map. You will note that alot of the time, the DE zerg makes you complete Hearts as well as allows you to take on a load of skill points which are nearby the zerg pathway.
I would add crafting to that but if you are talking about speed, unless someone is handing you mats/gold left right and centre then past a point it wont be much use.
Go back and do the rest at your leisure, or move to WvWvW which is why I would imagine a fair few of use are blitzing through the DE grind first.
What's a good "High Level Map" for running DE's? My level 10 necromancer can literally run around level 80 zones, and obviously get to them, without issue. The problem is that I don't KNOW which maps are the best for DEs!!
I tried some 40-50 zones, but i could never find a DE running in those in the couple of hours I was in them (I believe the one or two after Kessex Hills).
Is there a better 40-50 or even 50-70 zone I can go to for DEs? My Necromancer went from 10 to 35 in 3hrs in Kessex Hills spamming those western DE's :P!
ehhh? 3 hours? that the exploit in that general area? also at that level difference they'll kill you in 1-2 hits.....
That being said I have been playing more than him but I am only lvl 53, mainly because I have been dabbling in sPVP and WvW, where I was shooting for fun rather than EXP.
I'm not sure if you're insinuating that people can't have fun focusing on EXP. If you are, well you're mistaken. My favorite thing to do in a good MMO is to level to the cap. I love the feeling at each level and the accomploishment of hitting the cap. To me, that IS the best part. WvWvW, crafting, dungeons all come a distant second to my leveling experience on the first character.
It's really not that difficult. From 65-80 you can run around in a zerg in Straights of Devistation and hit 80 in about 5/6 hours, if that.
Othe rthan that, 100% map completion and WvW. The leveling has no huge curve, if you're going slow; it's about 50 minutes per level, if you're just hammering out content, it's about 20-30 minutes per level past 30.
That being said I have been playing more than him but I am only lvl 53, mainly because I have been dabbling in sPVP and WvW, where I was shooting for fun rather than EXP.
I'm not sure if you're insinuating that people can't have fun focusing on EXP. If you are, well you're mistaken. My favorite thing to do in a good MMO is to level to the cap. I love the feeling at each level and the accomploishment of hitting the cap. To me, that IS the best part. WvWvW, crafting, dungeons all come a distant second to my leveling experience on the first character.
If you don't RP for AT LEAST half of your /age, then you are not having fun. True story.
I think most don't realize that they have made new characters rather than leveling one to max to experience it for the first time. If high level isn't that great and the experience and other things are more enjoyable I can go back and make an alt. Until then, I will deck out my char and enjoy lvl 80 for all the dungeons, hard modes, WvWvW, Orr and whatever else I want to do, because, and here's the big picture, nothing is not available to me anymore. I can do any zone, I can do any dungeon, I can finish all my crafting, I can do whatever I want now with no restrictions whatsoever. I didn't rush to get to 80, but I also didn't just waddle around having conversations with NPCs, because lets be honest, they aren't very good listeners.
"Hi, how is your day?" "Our town is under attack, please help." "Hmmm, not so good huh, so about that weather." "Come save our town it's under attack." "I have a feeling that this isn't going to work out between us, I feel like all you care to do is use me, I think I'm going to have to end this relationship." "Are you going to save my town yet?"
Thats what ended my RP for this game. Damn selfish NPCs.
Playing at my own pace, alone the entire time, with no dungeon runs; I hit level 80 in 80 hours. No rushing, no zooming around. Sure I played for a long time, but it was still 80 hours of play time. Every map I leveled in I got 100% completion in. I'm sitting at 80% of the world explored.
Really, it's just about your playstyle and how you do things in the zones. I started in the top or bottom corners, and did a spiral around the zone, getting every vista, skillpoint and heart along the way. Dynamic events? Tons of exp, stayed for those all the way through.
The BIGGEST thing though; Most exp comes from your personal story. An event gave me maybe half a bar at level 79. A step in my personal story? 3 or 4 bars.
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As well as those of us old enough to not have families at home anymore. So, 8-10 hours a day online isn't tough to do. I could go outside and "do" something, but man, it's scary out there...
Wow flaming the 80's lol?
First I have a level 80 character
I have a great job doing 37.5hours a week where I CANT play. My job is great, I have a over the average salary and noone in my place could say that I play videogames a lot. Those that know me yes, but it is not a problem at my job. I didnt arrive late since gw2 released. Didnt took any day off or anything.
I have a great girlfriend who knows I like video games, but even there I spent a lot of time with her in the last 2 weeks and she doesn't even complain on how much I played.
I have plenty of friend, went to a swimming party on saturday and a drunk party on frinday night ( monday was off in quebec ). Monday I went to a beer fest... so yea an active social life
Getting to 80 in this game is really easy. On the saturday of the release I played A LOT it was brand new and I was off, my gf was working from 9 to 5 so I woke up at midnight and played till like 6pm. So that was a no-life rush.
Since I leveled doing map completion from like 1-60 quite fast playing around 3-4 hours a day ( from 9pm to midnight-1am ) while my gf sleeps. And on the weekend day while my gf works and that i'm not doing a social life ( even the first saturday i had 3 friend with me at my home playing ).
From 60-80 if you wanna level fast just do event loops , it will take you like 3 hours even less to get 6-7 levels, and crafting will give you like 10 levels in an hour... So yea you can be 80 and be something else than a no-life.. You just sleep a bit less for 2 weeks :P
Get into the highest level maps you can manage. Run like crap around all the WP's.
Find the DE zerg.
Chain the DE's.
Level.
Rinse and repeat on the next highest level map. You will note that alot of the time, the DE zerg makes you complete Hearts as well as allows you to take on a load of skill points which are nearby the zerg pathway.
I would add crafting to that but if you are talking about speed, unless someone is handing you mats/gold left right and centre then past a point it wont be much use.
Go back and do the rest at your leisure, or move to WvWvW which is why I would imagine a fair few of use are blitzing through the DE grind first.
"Come and have a look at what you could have won."
My plan is to explore every map to 100%. I will be lv80 a long time before I finish.
Not to mention I'm crafting too. So yeah, plenty of exp around compared the amount
of experience you actually need to reach max level.
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Crafting and just doing events and the likes mostly. Picking and chosing battles. I am a no lifer but I truthfully couldn't stand playing the game over 2 hours at a time (few rare exceptions) and I've hit cap two days ago.
Its extremely easy to do, achievable in under 3 days play time (even quicker really, considering some of that time is PvP and a good chunk sitting in town afk not really feeling in the mood to play) so if your continuely doing stuff its no problem.
Biggest mistake you can do in leveling 'slow' (if you call it a mistake) is doing every single thing in a zone (some hearts are terrible exp for the effort needed to finish), avoiding events, avoiding personal story, and doing low level stuff over stuff near your level. Once your lvl 70 just find the zerg, follow, then tap boss and afk and walla, easy mode.
Go where the fight is and keep alive, pretty much all I can tell you. WvW is as good as regular leveling for me, but it gives me MUCH more karma.
An active WvW session will get me about 4 levels and 10k karma.
Of course I'm pretty sure someone who is going for pure XP gain can probably level even faster in PvE.
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What's a good "High Level Map" for running DE's? My level 10 necromancer can literally run around level 80 zones, and obviously get to them, without issue. The problem is that I don't KNOW which maps are the best for DEs!!
I tried some 40-50 zones, but i could never find a DE running in those in the couple of hours I was in them (I believe the one or two after Kessex Hills).
Is there a better 40-50 or even 50-70 zone I can go to for DEs? My Necromancer went from 10 to 35 in 3hrs in Kessex Hills spamming those western DE's :P!
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Full map completion, crafting, story line quest.
Full map completion gets your character from starting level --> starting level + 7-8, lots of exp for hearts, doing random DEs, picking up supplies, doing dailies.
After I go back to craft since my inventory keeps yelling at me because it's full. I get 4-5 levels easy from crafting. Sadly that crafting basically made me outlevel any zone that I wanted to complete next, but since experience and need for that specific crafting supplies came up, I would do the zone anyway.
Story line quest gets about 3-4 bars of experience each. Making a level every 3-4 quests. Not much, but significant enough.
I have only played about 10-20 hours, if that, at level 80. I have probly gained about 20 levels+ bonus from doing the two 70+ zones full clear, finishing up story line and trying to finish crafting.
It really isn't that hard... I don't like running around with a huge pack of people doing DEs all day because thats boring to me. If I see a DE, I might do it, but when there are 20+ people running around zerging everything, its hard to really do anything by yourself for the challenge.
But honestly, you act like this game really doesn't make leveling a cake walk when you get rediculous amounts of experience from crafting and map completion.
Hurry up and wait or Hurry up and level another toon
Major boring shit no matter which way you slice it.
You have to actuvely be taking or defending a keep/structure.
I took the middle keep on the eternal WvW area and got 3/4 of a level.
ehhh? 3 hours? that the exploit in that general area? also at that level difference they'll kill you in 1-2 hits.....
That's because most people don't go to every races 1-25 areas and cities. That's because they want to see them for the first time on alts.
Also, not everyone is an explorer and discovering a waterfall isn't considered content for everybody.
Stop trying to put your playstyle onto others.
Holy crap. I love the game but I dont think I could play for 10+ hours even if I had the time lol.
I'm not sure if you're insinuating that people can't have fun focusing on EXP. If you are, well you're mistaken. My favorite thing to do in a good MMO is to level to the cap. I love the feeling at each level and the accomploishment of hitting the cap. To me, that IS the best part. WvWvW, crafting, dungeons all come a distant second to my leveling experience on the first character.
It's really not that difficult. From 65-80 you can run around in a zerg in Straights of Devistation and hit 80 in about 5/6 hours, if that.
Othe rthan that, 100% map completion and WvW. The leveling has no huge curve, if you're going slow; it's about 50 minutes per level, if you're just hammering out content, it's about 20-30 minutes per level past 30.
If you don't RP for AT LEAST half of your /age, then you are not having fun. True story.
I think most don't realize that they have made new characters rather than leveling one to max to experience it for the first time. If high level isn't that great and the experience and other things are more enjoyable I can go back and make an alt. Until then, I will deck out my char and enjoy lvl 80 for all the dungeons, hard modes, WvWvW, Orr and whatever else I want to do, because, and here's the big picture, nothing is not available to me anymore. I can do any zone, I can do any dungeon, I can finish all my crafting, I can do whatever I want now with no restrictions whatsoever. I didn't rush to get to 80, but I also didn't just waddle around having conversations with NPCs, because lets be honest, they aren't very good listeners.
"Hi, how is your day?" "Our town is under attack, please help." "Hmmm, not so good huh, so about that weather." "Come save our town it's under attack." "I have a feeling that this isn't going to work out between us, I feel like all you care to do is use me, I think I'm going to have to end this relationship." "Are you going to save my town yet?"
Thats what ended my RP for this game. Damn selfish NPCs.
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Playing at my own pace, alone the entire time, with no dungeon runs; I hit level 80 in 80 hours. No rushing, no zooming around. Sure I played for a long time, but it was still 80 hours of play time. Every map I leveled in I got 100% completion in. I'm sitting at 80% of the world explored.
Really, it's just about your playstyle and how you do things in the zones. I started in the top or bottom corners, and did a spiral around the zone, getting every vista, skillpoint and heart along the way. Dynamic events? Tons of exp, stayed for those all the way through.
The BIGGEST thing though; Most exp comes from your personal story. An event gave me maybe half a bar at level 79. A step in my personal story? 3 or 4 bars.
Complete a zone, two steps of your story, repeat!
Most of all, have fun!
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