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Looking for something that won't hold my hand.
I'm looking for a game that won't hold my hand.
I bought GW2 expecting lots of fun, but what I really am doing in the game is:
Log in
Look at map.
Tele.
Look at mini map
Follow map for gathering
Follow map for quests
Follow map for quest when I'm inside the same building as what needs to be done
Not pay attention at all to my surroundings
Press a few keys to win.
The game is so easy it's bugging me out. I like playing, but I actually miss being confused for a few minutes.
Can anyone help me out?
I'm looking for a populated game or server where I can move around the world and actually pay attention to it, remember it, and navigate by it. Not a map telling me literally EVERYTHING there is in the area.
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Lies! EVE will hold your hand. Of course, your hand will no longer be attached to your arm... and you may have no idea where it ran off to with your hand, but EVE will hold your hand.
I miss the MMORPG genre. Will a developer ever make one again?
Explorer: 87%, Killer: 67%, Achiever: 27%, Socializer: 20%
Well not everything. Map don't give you resource locations. Minimap does. Map don't give you way to find vistas and point of interests (well at least not all of them in case of POI), you must figure it out yourself.
Holding hands is not "lack of map". Holding hands is when game is telling you what to do next. GW2 don't do that. And it's not easy. You should know it if you were in beta tests. Problem right now is that DE don't scale properly when there is a zerg fest. Too much players on low lvl areas.
Anyway - you could play EVE (former EVE player here) but be prepared that there is no surounding. 99,9% of your time you will spend looking at tables with informations and user interface that provide you with everything. 3D world is just addon to the spreadsheet. But that game never hold your hand.
If you really need something that will require you to pay attention then find yourself game where mob can 2-shot you (so you have one mistake) and you must dodge and attack or something. I don't know such a game. Sorry.
AO is still alive and kicking until TSW puts funcom out of business.
Thanks for the answers folks. Regarding some of the suggestions:
EVE Online I can't play because as mentioned, the 3D environment is an add on to the spread sheets and I never felt immersed when I played. Although travelling vast distances and mining while being very scared was quite fun, it never really captured me.
I meant the map and minimap when I said what I said about GW2 being easy. I haven't gotten too far in the game and I'm not going to stop playing since there's no sub requrired, but I need something a little more difficult at least right now.
Vanguard is an awesome game but I left due to population issues. If there is a guild I can join that has a few lower level players that can run through the world with me, I might very well consider giving it another go after such a long break.
Anarchy Online I don't know much about. I watched a gameplay video and it looks pretty slow, the graphics bother me.
Can't do Rel Por or UO because they are 2D and I cringe. Just not for me.
You know OP you can not look at the map, or in the lower left hand corner of the map, turn off the icons that are leading you.
Vanguard gets my vote for just a big open game with minor hand holding
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Vanguard went ftp last month - should see plenty of low level players
EQ2 fan sites
For this part I'd recommend The Secret World.
Wow that's really awesome! Sucks that its a huge monetary commitment. Ill definitely check it out.
And downloading VG now
Start on the isle of dawn and make sure you join the telon server,level diplomacy and crafting before moving on.You can start at one of the new revamped areas but give the trail island a go.
/queue Beatles
"I want to hold your haaaaaaaaaaaand!"
*hopes that helps
I want a mmorpg where people have gone through misery, have gone through school stuff and actually have had sex even. -sagil
No matter how cynical you become, its never enough to keep up - Lily Tomlin
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To what extent don't you want hand holding?
As mentioned by someone already, Wurm Online is truly hardcore in that respect. You'll start with a compass and a few basic tools, but you'll lose those plenty and then you're travelling by landmarks or even using the sun to indicate direction. You need to feed yourself, drink, repair your tools, craft - and don't even think about attacking something until you know what you're doing.
Graphics might not be to your taste and there aren't a huge amount of players but if it's hardcore you're lookling for, you should try it out.
Majority of TSW quests are still go where quest gps show you, and kill / or click red-highlighted thingies. Of course there are some investigation quests where you have to decrypt, think, etc but still whole game as general is quite hand-holding.
I think OP is actually looking for diffrent game DESIGN. More in like of old mmorpg's where you had to figure out preety much everything by yourself and if you failed game kicked you in the tooth mercilessly.
Yea I am watching it very closely. Very excited for the release on [knock on wood] November 20th. With AV's track record, we could be waiting until next year, but it seems they got their shit together this time around. In the announcement video Tasos stated "we know no one is going to wait very long."
I played Darkfall for a while and it was a TON of fun, but the community was hard to get into, literally, and knowing that won't change won't be a problem because of the wipe. Once I'm on a level playing field with them, it'll be much easier to get involved in some large political movements there, which is what interests me the most about that game.
Until that releases though I think I'm going to with Vanguard here, and I'll be back if it doesn't work out.
Wurm Online isn't smooth so I can't play it. It bugs me out. TWS is too much money and I heard the combat wasn't too great, but the investigation missions seem interesting but probably not worth $75.
Themepark tsw
DF UW.
Full loot.
Housing.
Ships.
FPS.
Not much holding hand there....
Go fish 1 hour, someone sees you, you run, you die, you loose 1 hour fishing and gear.
TRY IT:
Eve is as boring as watching wet paint dry but yeah, it wont hold your hand.
Darkfall is more fun and it also does not hold your hand but you need to wait for the expansion, Unholy Wars.
Other than that there are very few modern MMO's which wont hold your hand...
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Darkfall : Unholy Wars comes out November 20. It is a full loot open world pvp game that is very dynamic, entertaining, and challenging. http://www.darkfallonline.com/uw . Here is a list from their website that lists some key elements.