Neither one are failed and WoW is slowly fading into the mud. I'm a huge fan of all 3, including Rift and just about any mmorpg out there. But posting something that isn't true only discredits you here on the forum. Just because you don't like them, doesn't make them a failure to others.
WoW is an awesome game, but you have to see that the numbers are dropping, and dropping fast. /realism
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This is because it resembles WoW so much. You have to understand that there are other games out there that people like and just because you don't care for them doesn't make them a failure.
Tomorrow I will be playing GW2 and MoP. I don't point out that I hate certain games or say they are failures just because I don't like them. I try and accept each of them in their own way and if I don't like them I just don't play them.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
ofcourse it will outsell them lol. No matter if u like it or not WoW is still better than GW2 ans SWOTOR TOGETHER.
they are both failed games and wow is going strong for 9 years soon.
Neither one are failed and WoW is slowly fading into the mud. I'm a huge fan of all 3, including Rift and just about any mmorpg out there. But posting something that isn't true only discredits you here on the forum. Just because you don't like them, doesn't make them a failure to others.
WoW is an awesome game, but you have to see that the numbers are dropping, and dropping fast. /realism
WoW is slowly falling into the mud? are u tripping? its been 9 y soon and it still is going strong lol. PPl are leaving GW2 and SWOTOR surely failed royally. u can hate WoW or blizzard but u cant simply argue that WoW remains unbeatable..soo many have tried and most of them are free2play now. guild wars 2 only prevented going free2play by being b2p.
wow is loosing subs ofcourse.. 2012 is a crazy year with soo many somewhat good mmos coming out..its to be expected.
i like rift and i think it is a success compared to the other 2.
You mean 8 yrs - not 9. WoW came out jUST BEFORE GW1 and GW1 was 7 yrs old this year.
WoW is falling in the mud, albeit slowly. MoP shows that they really are not listening to their own fan base. People will buy it because it is a WoW expansion, in spite of the Pandas in it.
American woem game just like American men, hence your comment about women playing cute characters shows that you do not understand that. MoP is more anime than WoW - look at TERA and that will explain it all.
ofcourse it will outsell them lol. No matter if u like it or not WoW is still better than GW2 ans SWOTOR TOGETHER.
they are both failed games and wow is going strong for 9 years soon.
Neither one are failed and WoW is slowly fading into the mud. I'm a huge fan of all 3, including Rift and just about any mmorpg out there. But posting something that isn't true only discredits you here on the forum. Just because you don't like them, doesn't make them a failure to others.
WoW is an awesome game, but you have to see that the numbers are dropping, and dropping fast. /realism
WoW is slowly falling into the mud? are u tripping? its been 9 y soon and it still is going strong lol. PPl are leaving GW2 and SWOTOR surely failed royally. u can hate WoW or blizzard but u cant simply argue that WoW remains unbeatable..soo many have tried and most of them are free2play now. guild wars 2 only prevented going free2play by being b2p.
wow is loosing subs ofcourse.. 2012 is a crazy year with soo many somewhat good mmos coming out..its to be expected.
i like rift and i think it is a success compared to the other 2.
This is because it resembles WoW so much. You have to understand that there are other games out there that people like and just because you don't care for them doesn't make them a failure.
Tomorrow I will be playing GW2 and MoP. I don't point out that I hate certain games or say they are failures just because I don't like them. I try and accept each of them in their own way and if I don't like them I just don't play them.
Don't even know why you are trying to reason with someone who doesn't get that games are a form of entertainment, which is a sujbective concept.
Originally posted by MeGaTronPower goooo blizzzz make another industry best selling game expansions ever, woooo mop will outsell both gw2+ swtor combined in 24 hours for sure another record breaking game expansions again as usual of blizz. Wow just wont die lol
They have 10mln subscription base that require addon so that was to be expected. Still - good job Blizz.
Still I tried WoW few months ago and I must say that after playing MMO of current generation I just can't go back. For me - WoW is just borin. I'm sure it was fun 7 years ago and people that started at that time love this game but today - WoW is no go for me.
Kind of sad because I always wanted to see what kind of game it is for 10mln people playing it and for kids spending there their entire free time for 7 years.
Bought GW2, pre-ordered MoP. Have played WoW off and on since release. I will play them both, i care not who sells more. I play what looks fun until it is no longer fun. Why the constant debate, I will never know, the do bring some sense of comedy though, especially when people actually take any GAME to heart....really, there is better sh$t to worry about.
ofcourse it will outsell them lol. No matter if u like it or not WoW is still better than GW2 ans SWOTOR TOGETHER.
they are both failed games and wow is going strong for 9 years soon.
Wow, I thought you couldn't get any worse.
everyone knows u are a hardcore gw2 fanboy so your reaction doesnt wonder me at all. ur pissed cause ur game is failing hard and people are leaving the sinking ship..i get that! sorry for burtsing your bubble.
everyone knows you are a hardcore wow fanboy. you're pissed because guild wars 2 is getting more exposure than your 9 year old game that you obsess over..when guild wars 2 gets boring i'll leave, unlike you and wow you'll be there forever because blizzard has your number.
yeh i like blizzard games that is no secret,. i also played gw2 and i cant motivate myself to login anymore since over a week.
and that after such a short time" that never happened to me in many many years of WoW subbing.
gw2 is getting more exposure ? what? everyone talks about gw2 cause its simply NEW. understand that.
im a grown ass man i do not get pissed because of MMOs u so dont be mad kiddo.
seriously just take a look what your typing kid.. oh and im not subbed to WoW atm
but it will be once MoP is out since its simply a better game than GW2 which bores the crap out of me.
damn arena net must be jealous it took them a month to get 2.2 million copies sold, blizz can get that in 24 hours no sweat.
You gonna play with PANDAS, Pandas with Kun-fu skills, i dont care about Millions of copies and players, but while u play in a pokemon arena with cute-fluffy panda bears, i´ll be on my commando killing people with an assault cannon.
ofcourse it will outsell them lol. No matter if u like it or not WoW is still better than GW2 ans SWOTOR TOGETHER.
they are both failed games and wow is going strong for 9 years soon.
Wow, I thought you couldn't get any worse.
everyone knows u are a hardcore gw2 fanboy so your reaction doesnt wonder me at all. ur pissed cause ur game is failing hard and people are leaving the sinking ship..i get that! sorry for burtsing your bubble.
everyone knows you are a hardcore wow fanboy. you're pissed because guild wars 2 is getting more exposure than your 9 year old game that you obsess over..when guild wars 2 gets boring i'll leave, unlike you and wow you'll be there forever because blizzard has your number.
yeh i like blizzard games that is no secret,. i also played gw2 and i cant motivate myself to login anymore since over a week.
and that after such a short time" that never happened to me in many many years of WoW subbing.
gw2 is getting more exposure ? what? everyone talks about gw2 cause its simply NEW. understand that.
im a grown ass man i do not get pissed because of MMOs u so dont be mad kiddo.
seriously just take a look what your typing kid.. oh and im not subbed to WoW atm
but it will be once MoP is out since its simply a better game than GW2 which bores the crap out of me.
dont be so hatefull.
So it's ok for you to be a fanboy of blizzard? yet you call someone else out for being a guild wars 2 fanboy while at the same time you are on the gw2 forum everyday? Sounds like you have some growing to do yet. i baited you into that thread because i knew someone like you would show up to prove my point.
Originally posted by Cromica Lots of people buy iPhones to not because they are the best just because it's they are not smart enough to know any better
To say nothing of the amount of people who still use Internet Explorer.
Blizzard should show these games how its done son.
You mean, release a game, with a very large established fanbase from 10+ years of bnet history, at a time when the market was still emerging and the casual base had not yet been established, thus ripe for harvesting? Therefore establishing a momentious self perpetuating playerbase, which people never leave because they have X hours invested in their characters, and hey, their friends and everyone else plays WoW anyway. Not discounting Blizzard quality (minus D3) but WoW's success is as much about perfect timing that is impossible to replicate in the current market (saturated with titles), as it is quality, if not more so
ofcourse it will outsell them lol. No matter if u like it or not WoW is still better than GW2 ans SWOTOR TOGETHER.
they are both failed games and wow is going strong for 9 years soon.
Wow, I thought you couldn't get any worse.
everyone knows u are a hardcore gw2 fanboy so your reaction doesnt wonder me at all. ur pissed cause ur game is failing hard and people are leaving the sinking ship..i get that! sorry for burtsing your bubble.
everyone knows you are a hardcore wow fanboy. you're pissed because guild wars 2 is getting more exposure than your 9 year old game that you obsess over..when guild wars 2 gets boring i'll leave, unlike you and wow you'll be there forever because blizzard has your number.
yeh i like blizzard games that is no secret,. i also played gw2 and i cant motivate myself to login anymore since over a week.
and that after such a short time" that never happened to me in many many years of WoW subbing.
gw2 is getting more exposure ? what? everyone talks about gw2 cause its simply NEW. understand that.
im a grown ass man i do not get pissed because of MMOs u so dont be mad kiddo.
seriously just take a look what your typing kid.. oh and im not subbed to WoW atm
but it will be once MoP is out since its simply a better game than GW2 which bores the crap out of me.
dont be so hatefull.
dont stop dude, im having fun with ur "trolling gw2 fan boys", Amjoco bring ur usual lady gaga meat outfit to keep the troll fed.
Blizzard should show these games how its done son.
You mean, release a game, with a very large established fanbase from 10+ years of bnet history, at a time when the market was still emerging and the casual base had not yet been established, thus ripe for harvesting? Therefore establishing a momentious self perpetuating playerbase, which people never leave because they have X hours invested in their characters, and hey, their friends and everyone else plays WoW anyway. Not discounting Blizzard quality (minus D3) but WoW's success is as much about perfect timing that is impossible to replicate in the current market (saturated with titles), as it is quality, if not more so
I think you nailed it here.
WoW will do well just because of what it is, but after the first month of MoP folks will relize it is still just WoW and not resubscribe. It will probably go back to it's dwindling playerbase and only hold the hardcore players who don't want to leave. I think the numbers still stay fairly strong but as folks upgrade their computers they see no reason to stay with an older looking title. It is an awesome game, but it can only last so long. /salute!
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
WoW will do well just because of what it is, but after the first month of MoP folks will relize it is still just WoW and not resubscribe. It will probably go back to it's dwindling playerbase and only hold the hardcore players who don't want to leave. I think the numbers still stay fairly strong but as folks upgrade their computers they see no reason to stay with an older looking title. It is an awesome game, but it can only last so long. /salute!
ofcourse it will outsell them lol. No matter if u like it or not WoW is still better than GW2 ans SWOTOR TOGETHER.
they are both failed games and wow is going strong for 9 years soon.
Wow, I thought you couldn't get any worse.
everyone knows u are a hardcore gw2 fanboy so your reaction doesnt wonder me at all. ur pissed cause ur game is failing hard and people are leaving the sinking ship..i get that! sorry for burtsing your bubble.
everyone knows you are a hardcore wow fanboy. you're pissed because guild wars 2 is getting more exposure than your 9 year old game that you obsess over..when guild wars 2 gets boring i'll leave, unlike you and wow you'll be there forever because blizzard has your number.
yeh i like blizzard games that is no secret,. i also played gw2 and i cant motivate myself to login anymore since over a week.
and that after such a short time" that never happened to me in many many years of WoW subbing.
gw2 is getting more exposure ? what? everyone talks about gw2 cause its simply NEW. understand that.
im a grown ass man i do not get pissed because of MMOs u so dont be mad kiddo.
seriously just take a look what your typing kid.. oh and im not subbed to WoW atm
but it will be once MoP is out since its simply a better game than GW2 which bores the crap out of me.
dont be so hatefull.
dont stop dude, im having fun with ur "trolling gw2 fan boys", Amjoco bring ur usual lady gaga meat outfit to keep the troll fed.
Hey! I wasn't even in this portion of the thread! I was in the military for 24 years and I'll be damned if I dress like Lady Gaga or whatever that thing is. I prefer the old Madonna, not the new one!
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
The OP isnt really saying anything significant here. We all know WoW will out sell them just because of the massive amount of poeple playing. So, yea, no big secret there.
Originally posted by Derros well, yea, arent there like 9-10 million people that NEED to buy the expantion to keep progressing, with another 2 million who might buy it to check out the new changes.
This. If it doesn't sell 3 million in the first week that's a bad sign. It's pretty hiarious to even think that though, gotta admire that customer retention.
ofcourse it will outsell them lol. No matter if u like it or not WoW is still better than GW2 ans SWOTOR TOGETHER.
they are both failed games and wow is going strong for 9 years soon.
Wow, I thought you couldn't get any worse.
everyone knows u are a hardcore gw2 fanboy so your reaction doesnt wonder me at all. ur pissed cause ur game is failing hard and people are leaving the sinking ship..i get that! sorry for burtsing your bubble.
There are hundreds of thousands playing GW2. This was last night in a remote area where I thought I would be alone. This a couple nights ago. And this from several days ago. The servers are always full. As I said before, just because you don't like it doesn't mean it is failing.
His posts reek of desperation. Just let it go. Really, there's just no reasoning with this type of mindset. Personally, I'm not offended by WoW's success, but to call GW2 a failure is something that either only a real moron would do, or someone that just isn't armed with all the facts.....OR.....a simple troll. By no standards is GW2 failing.....at this point. By no standards is WoW failing either. Is WoW "more successful?" By player numbers I would say yes, but again....that doesn't take away from GW2 success except maybe to a WoW fanboi troll who just can't stand that another game is having some success. He goes on to later say he considers RIFT successful, but not GW2. That gave me a good laugh.
Anyway....blow him off. It's not worth your effort. He'd never listen because he's so cock sure he's right.
I'm very upset about MoP. When I saw the CGI trailer I thought there was a new Kung Fu Panda coming out, and my children where excited. Than I learned it was WoW's expansion.
I would rather have a new Kung Fu Panda(I'll take two hours of Jack Blacks annoying a## over 10 million annoying a##'es any day)
You mean, release a game, with a very large established fanbase from 10+ years of bnet history, at a time when the market was still emerging and the casual base had not yet been established, thus ripe for harvesting? Therefore establishing a momentious self perpetuating playerbase, which people never leave because they have X hours invested in their characters, and hey, their friends and everyone else plays WoW anyway. Not discounting Blizzard quality (minus D3) but WoW's success is as much about perfect timing that is impossible to replicate in the current market (saturated with titles), as it is quality, if not more so
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This is because it resembles WoW so much. You have to understand that there are other games out there that people like and just because you don't care for them doesn't make them a failure.
Tomorrow I will be playing GW2 and MoP. I don't point out that I hate certain games or say they are failures just because I don't like them. I try and accept each of them in their own way and if I don't like them I just don't play them.
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
Ya, I believe you are right in this one. /shrug
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
You mean 8 yrs - not 9. WoW came out jUST BEFORE GW1 and GW1 was 7 yrs old this year.
WoW is falling in the mud, albeit slowly. MoP shows that they really are not listening to their own fan base. People will buy it because it is a WoW expansion, in spite of the Pandas in it.
American woem game just like American men, hence your comment about women playing cute characters shows that you do not understand that. MoP is more anime than WoW - look at TERA and that will explain it all.
Don't even know why you are trying to reason with someone who doesn't get that games are a form of entertainment, which is a sujbective concept.
They have 10mln subscription base that require addon so that was to be expected. Still - good job Blizz.
Still I tried WoW few months ago and I must say that after playing MMO of current generation I just can't go back. For me - WoW is just borin. I'm sure it was fun 7 years ago and people that started at that time love this game but today - WoW is no go for me.
Kind of sad because I always wanted to see what kind of game it is for 10mln people playing it and for kids spending there their entire free time for 7 years.
yeh i like blizzard games that is no secret,. i also played gw2 and i cant motivate myself to login anymore since over a week.
and that after such a short time" that never happened to me in many many years of WoW subbing.
gw2 is getting more exposure ? what? everyone talks about gw2 cause its simply NEW. understand that.
im a grown ass man i do not get pissed because of MMOs u so dont be mad kiddo.
seriously just take a look what your typing kid.. oh and im not subbed to WoW atm
but it will be once MoP is out since its simply a better game than GW2 which bores the crap out of me.
dont be so hatefull.
... in a fantasy world.
Really mature.
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Blizzard should show these games how its done son.
So it's ok for you to be a fanboy of blizzard? yet you call someone else out for being a guild wars 2 fanboy while at the same time you are on the gw2 forum everyday? Sounds like you have some growing to do yet. i baited you into that thread because i knew someone like you would show up to prove my point.
To say nothing of the amount of people who still use Internet Explorer.
You mean, release a game, with a very large established fanbase from 10+ years of bnet history, at a time when the market was still emerging and the casual base had not yet been established, thus ripe for harvesting? Therefore establishing a momentious self perpetuating playerbase, which people never leave because they have X hours invested in their characters, and hey, their friends and everyone else plays WoW anyway. Not discounting Blizzard quality (minus D3) but WoW's success is as much about perfect timing that is impossible to replicate in the current market (saturated with titles), as it is quality, if not more so
dont stop dude, im having fun with ur "trolling gw2 fan boys", Amjoco bring ur usual lady gaga meat outfit to keep the troll fed.
I think you nailed it here.
WoW will do well just because of what it is, but after the first month of MoP folks will relize it is still just WoW and not resubscribe. It will probably go back to it's dwindling playerbase and only hold the hardcore players who don't want to leave. I think the numbers still stay fairly strong but as folks upgrade their computers they see no reason to stay with an older looking title. It is an awesome game, but it can only last so long. /salute!
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
I completely agree with that assessment.
Hey! I wasn't even in this portion of the thread! I was in the military for 24 years and I'll be damned if I dress like Lady Gaga or whatever that thing is. I prefer the old Madonna, not the new one!
Death is nothing to us, since when we are, Death has not come, and when death has come, we are not.
The Door Wars fanboys are going to have nightmares this week!
....but then what would we talk about on forums then ?
No matter how cynical you become, its never enough to keep up - Lily Tomlin
This. If it doesn't sell 3 million in the first week that's a bad sign. It's pretty hiarious to even think that though, gotta admire that customer retention.
His posts reek of desperation. Just let it go. Really, there's just no reasoning with this type of mindset. Personally, I'm not offended by WoW's success, but to call GW2 a failure is something that either only a real moron would do, or someone that just isn't armed with all the facts.....OR.....a simple troll. By no standards is GW2 failing.....at this point. By no standards is WoW failing either. Is WoW "more successful?" By player numbers I would say yes, but again....that doesn't take away from GW2 success except maybe to a WoW fanboi troll who just can't stand that another game is having some success. He goes on to later say he considers RIFT successful, but not GW2. That gave me a good laugh.
Anyway....blow him off. It's not worth your effort. He'd never listen because he's so cock sure he's right.
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I'm very upset about MoP. When I saw the CGI trailer I thought there was a new Kung Fu Panda coming out, and my children where excited. Than I learned it was WoW's expansion.
I would rather have a new Kung Fu Panda(I'll take two hours of Jack Blacks annoying a## over 10 million annoying a##'es any day)
Exactly.