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Thinking of switching from EQ
rjlopezcag
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I am sick of SoE and the bad custoner service in EQ. Can anyone give me the pro & cons of WoW?
One aspect I like of EQ is the buying/selling in the bazaar. Epecially on the Firiona Vie server where very few items are 'no drop"; almost everything is tradable/sellable. Does woW have a bazaar type element? Is there a server like that in WoW or are all like that?
I play a L70 ranger in EQ. Is that equivilent to an L60 hunter in WoW?
Any advice would be appreciated.
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Auction House in both factions major city.
Argent Dawn RP server. There are others, but I believe AD is the proverbial 500lbs gorilla in this instance.
Yes, but with the ability to tame pets.
Advice: Don't eat the yellow snow.
A WoW hunter is a dual-wielding, ranged-attack specialist, as in EQ, but they are also similar to an EQ beastlord in that they are a pet class. They tame different sorts of beasts rather than summoning their pets, though. Some people have complained on these boards about the difficulty of finding groups with a hunter at high levels, but much of that problem can be alleviated by getting into a good guild, making friends, and learning how to control your pet.
Someone already mentioned the auction houses. There are RP, PvP, and Normal servers in WoW. There are no servers with special loot rules, afaik, with regard to whether or not items are "bind on pick up" (aka "no drop"), but there are a lot of straight tradeable items, including many "bind on equip" (like attuneable items in EQ). Auction houses don't require you to stand there to buy/sell-- you put your item up for sale and wait for the auction to end, or you go and put in your bid on something someone else has left there. You're not a vendorbot as you are in EQ.
Pros and Cons? I am going to just try to tell you about WoW, maybe using EQ as a reference point, because, despite the similarity of the game systems, comparing the two ends up being like comparing apples to tennis shoes, due to the PvP aspect, the differences in grouping, etc. They play similarly, but once you get to a certain point... not really.
WoW is a lot faster. The leveling is a lot faster. There's no real death penalty to speak of. Many people come here and complain about maxing out too fast in WoW. I personally know other people who hit 60 and find themselves playing more than ever. There is high end raiding, just as in EQ. You'll have to decide for yourself if that's a pro or a con.
Personally, having switched back and forth between EQ and WoW, I'd say the combat is at a faster pace in WoW as well.
WoW has PvP on even the regular servers. It's completely optional on regular and RP servers, but it is really one of the more entertaining things about the game. This is a pro if you want to try out the PvP system, and it isn't really a con if you're on a Normal or RP server because you don't have to do it.
If you play more than one character in WoW, you'll find yourself repeating the same quests after a while. That can be tedious (IMO). Quests are a good way to level and are an integral part of the game, though. If you're one of those people who plays one character all the way through, though, that won't matter-- either you'll stick to that one and never repeat those quests, or you'll have put enough time betwen the first and second time through that it won't be tedious.
There are groups to do quests and instances, but no experience grinding groups because pretty much every class is soloable. The groups that there are tend to either break up after the quests or instance is done.
Crafting in WoW is so easy you could almost do it accidentally. Personally, I considered that a pro, since I am not usually into crafting, but it was simple and easy enough that even I could do it.
As in EQ, the community can vary quite a bit from server to server. In WoW, it can also vary a lot depending on whether you are playing Alliance or Horde on any given server. Some people condemn the WoW crowd as "a bunch of kiddies," but there are plenty of nice, friendly, mature people playing as well.
I might point out that I went back to EQ after 6 months of WoW. I don't dislike WoW, but, as you have likely read elsewhere, it lacks depth in many areas. I am probably going to switch back to WoW after this month though, because there's a tradeoff for that lack of depth-- you can actually get somewhere on limited time.
I hope this helps you decide if WoW is for you.
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This is where I draw the line: __________________.
Thanks to both of you for the answers and insights. Sounds like WoW might be a go for me this weekend.
I used to 2-box my ranger and a Druid on EQ. Is that doable on Wow as well?
Okay, then I'll give you my humble advice.
I play both games and the customer service in WoW is no different than the customer service in EQ.
So... if that's the reason you're quitting then I wouldn't. You should have posted this on both the EQ board and the WoW board (not sure if you did or not, if so sorry). That way you could get opinions from both sides.
Now, here's my personal opinion. I play EQ, EQ2, (both for $21.99, what a deal, hehe), and WoW. I had fun with WoW for a little while, mostly before I hit 60, but it is soooo boring now. The only reason I still play is because my buddy is playing and wants to get to 60, but even he is bored and hasn't even made it to 40 yet. EQ is HUGE!!! I started playing it about 2 years ago and I can't imagine ever seeing everything there is in that game. Plus, I love the EQ community. I don't know if you have bought WoW yet, but just give the community ratings a check before you consider.
Hope whatever you decide turns out to be the most fun for you.
I think he did get opinions from both sides. FWIW, I am playing EQ currently, if you'd read what I wrote. I've been playing EQ since 1999, but took most of 2004 off. I tried to be fair to WoW, but I did mention the lack of depth, and pointed out that a lot of people get bored with it. I mentioned that some people have a problem with the WoW community, and noted that, like the EQ community, it varies A LOT from server to server. I do know a lot of people personally, ex-EQ players and others, that have been playing WoW since release and are still enjoying it, so I am not going to declare that it is a boring game when it clearly isn't for a lot of other people.
If the guy is a L70 Ranger, then I assume he already knows everything he wants to know about EQ and wanted to know something about WoW. *shrug*
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This is where I draw the line: __________________.
WoW is an EQ clone, with updated graphics and better quests and PVP.
Yep. You pretty much nailed that one.
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This is where I draw the line: __________________.
I personally don't think that someone who has obviously enjoyed EQ1 enough to stick with it this long will like WoW. It's very easy, most people solo to 60 other than grouping for a few minutes to do a quest or instance, and the community is awful, filled with MMORPG newbies who are learning that the "right" way to play one of these games is to act like an idiot. Also, once you get to 60, which will take you less than a month, it gets boring fast. There is very little end game content and it is not anywhere near as challenging as EQ's many encounters. Most people feel that the game ends rather quickly after hitting 60 and then it's time to make a new character. But the world is small and the quests repetitive and you're just doing the same thing over again that you just finished. In EQ1 I personally felt the game was fun from lvl 1 but it really got fantastic after 60. Don't even get me started about the horrible community in WoW - I loved grouping in EQ1 but refuse to in WoW now because the experiences are so horrible (plus the groups only last a few minutes and much of the time no one even speaks to the other people in the group).
Anyway, if $50 isn't a big deal to you, sure, try WoW and it might be able to keep you interested for a month, but I'd bet you'll be back in EQ1 after that. Also, as someone else mentioned the customer service, IMO, is actually worse than EQ ever was.
Not sure how OP will like WoW, too many players who are switching from grinding games like EQ and L2 find WoW too easy and burn out too fast. IMO, WoW was generaly created for casual players, those who dont max out their chars in one month. I am a casual player, I play 3-5 hours per day, and sometimes, after a month of gameplay ill just stop playing for a month, then come back. I played WoW since release, I have around 7 chars (average level is 25-30) so I never experienced lack of content.
It did get a bit tedious repeating quests, but wasnt too bad. If you are EQ player, a hardcore player, you might do what most hardcore players did, go through WoW fast and end up level 60 bored to tears. Although some people love raiding so I dunno why they are complaining, EQ is the same, you just raid for items at high end, you have more choice but the idea is the same, raid a zone, kill some mob and get ultra cool gear.
Id say definitely try this game, if u play this for 2-3 months thats already worth your money. Just try not to rush to get to the top, explore, PvP, level your tradeskills, make a new char and level them in turns.
Hunter is the closest one if comparing it to the ranger in EQ, although ranger is much bigger meleer, hunter relies on his pet to keep agro, while shooting the bad guys from a distance. WoW shaman is fairly close to ranger too, more like a mix of ranger and druid/shaman. WoW shaman can melee, plus can cast some destructive spells and use totems, a unique playstyle.
I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
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Why 2 box? So you can have a healer? You don't need a healer.
If you want to 2 box just to level up 2 characters, its probably doable, but WoW requires more attention than EQ, so it'll really work you if you want to be effective.
ps. Hunters are a great class, and great solo'ers, and good PvP'ers. However this also makes them a very over populated class. You mentioned druid, a new patch came out today designed to make druids a much better class. If you have any interested in druid then now is a good time to start one.