Howdy, Stranger!
It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
Quick Links
Was wondering why GW2 has so many 'hits' on this site, think I figured it out.
This discussion has been closed.
It looks like you're new here. If you want to get involved, click one of these buttons!
Comments
I haven't had someone steal my kill since... 2003?
It's a term now. Not same meaning. Troll is synonym for critic, or Anti-Fanboy.
Thats all. It lost its meaning. Check out the new forum rules on mmorpg.com and how they define troll, to see what I mean. Trolling to the mmorpg.com staff is somebody that post negative comments about the game. Aka a critic.
That would make me a Troll. Anything that gets hyped, even the games I am interested in, I will attack, since I hate Hype from MMO developers. I rather they be straight up honest instead of using clever marketing tricks to brainwash and enslave people's mind.
See many people need to realize that these people go to College for this brainwashing skill. It's a science to it, and developers know how to use that science to brainwash. It's the same way politics work. And I hate that.
I feel entitled to denounce hype of any overhyped mmorpg. Even if I get banned for doing so. Seem like most people never learn from the past mistakes of buying into hype.
Philosophy of MMO Game Design
Combat is the same as which MMO? The GW2 combat's one of my favorite things about the game. if there's another MMO that has the same combat, I'd love to try it.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
Multiple reasons why ANY game has popularity on there.
1.) News/Details that bring attention to the game. GW2 as for the example is mentioned a lot in this area and it makes it extremely easy for that to take shape.
2.) Forum Posts: Probably thee leading cause. Every day you see posts as rapid fan boys and rapid haters post threads about GW2 which fanboys and haters go back and forth, with anyone saying the game is 'meh' getting their ass handed to them by fanboys obviously thinking they are a hater for thinking it isn't the 2nd coming of christ. Seriously, stop it GW2 fanboys, your making me hate you more then WoW fanboys. *cough* Sorry went off topic. Simply put: Lots of forum posts with Fanboy Vs Hater
3.) Ads: GW2 is quite dedicated to spamming adds on this website, as seen by the 2 banners it has up at all times. Those attract attention and as such people check it out.
4.) Rating: The must popular games will typically garnish the most attention. Gw2 being top easily generates more hits for being 'rated' the highest.
5.) New Game/f2p switch/expansion: Not really GW2 but more so if you want an example we can look at SWTOR. The F2P switch is a huge change for the game which makes a game people were originally "Why bother" so much more popular. Its essencially 2 parts where a game comes out it gets big popualrity and when it goes 'free to play' that it gains more attention.
Expect this to happen with TESO release as well for some time and other big name games. Chances are with the Rift expansion launch you will see that game gain a lot of attention as well again.
It could also be that there are quite a few people like me who each day check up on the game, going through various sites and fora.
Its just that I can't be arsed to get cought up in discussing the game with many of you because very few people around here are sensible. Why would we even have time to post? Most of us work for a living, have families,spouses,kids...cats?
Shock and horror, we visit the site but don't have enough time to defend why we play GW2.
He was referring to the OP
What is amazing is that you people manage to turn almost anything about GW2 in trolls vs fanboys. Even the hits on GW2.
/facepalm
I wanted to report OP, but i guess it has already been done by others. lol
Dodging, active blocking, casting on the move...
Of course it is rarely needed and that is why you get rez zerging or it isn't needed beause there is a ton of people doing the DEs (tons of people in a MMO, eww)
Currently playing: GW2
Going cardboard starter kit: Ticket to ride, Pandemic, Carcassonne, Dominion, 7 Wonders
I think this must be why people feel the combat is the same. You can play it like WoW, and you'll do ok, most of the time. but if you learn how much more there is to it, you can do a lot better than ok, and have a lot more fun, in the process.
Not just the action elements, but the combos, traits, weapon swapping, and upgrades, and the different ways all that can synergize, depending on how you customize it all.. It goes deeper than any other MMO I know of (not counting games like EVE that are just too different to compare)
I wonder if anyone's done a decent guide on GW2 combat. It did take me a while to realize that it wasn't just another tab-target MMO at all. I'm just not the sort to try to be that helpful, I guess. Way too much work..
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
For the same reason why people love to hate: Walmart, Nickleback, Fox News, America, Wall Street, Rich people.
Human de-evolution has ingrained into the head a certain segment of society to hate anything successful, or popular.
I am in the exact opposite boat. I Loathe anything Indie, hipster, non-mainstream, and out of style.
Everything you need to know about Elder Scrolls Online
Playing: GW2
Waiting on: TESO
Next Flop: Planetside 2
Best MMO of all time: Asheron's Call - The first company to recreate AC will be the next greatest MMO.
1. Claim it's human de-evolution to hate on anything popular or mainstream.
2. Brag about yourself being non-mainstream by loathing anything non-mainstream.
3....
4. Profit?
I find you being the same way.
If it's not broken, you are not innovating.
Combat is the same as which MMO? The GW2 combat's one of my favorite things about the game. if there's another MMO that has the same combat, I'd love to try it.
I acually prefer Tera's combat system or RaiderZ, whether they are better than GW2 is down to opinion.I find you both guilty.
On a more serious note, I have over 400+ hours now on the /age of all of my characters on Guild Wars 2. Still playing with one friend, and can still enjoy the game. But whenever I come by MMORPG and see a GW2 thread I can't help but to troll sometimes.
When I'm playing the game, I'm there enjoying it. What I've never felt is the need to defend my enjoyment of a game on a forum. Forums are for complaining, crying, trolling. Almost every thread I come across here just seems like something ridiculously absurd, whether its trying to be good or bad. Sometimes I'll just get a brainfart of something ridiculous after looking at it and feel like it's a good idea to post it... It usually never is. This doesn't seem to be limited to forums either...
If GW2 was the industrial revolution - the Trolls would be lining up to throw their clogs ('Sabo') into ANets servers.
Likewise, when something changes, or threatens to change the feedstuff of an addict (we've all heared WoW called World of Warcrack right!?....) then the addicts panic, come out in cold sweats and wail to the world how it will end their very existence.
In the end, GW2 has a notable longevity problem - at least in my opinion. I also don't like Asurans and the 23rd century magictech associated with them....
.... but in terms of innvovation and 'doing what they said on the tin' ANet have done an very good job - not flawless of course - NOTHING ever is....
.... but better than most, and more innovative than ALL when looked at holistically.
Doesn't stop the 'druggies' getting the DT's though.
In fact there should be a new meaning for it as far as MMO's are concerned.
DTs = 'Delerium Trollings'
Other MMO players just cannot handle the truth.
GW2 is that good 10 / 10.
Anet got
up from me.
Pardon my English as it is not my 1st language
It's true, I don't play the game (tried it, never liked it) and click on all the negative GW2 threads I see in the Current forum activity.
But I doubt there's so many of us. Most probably checkout screenshots etc.
You lost me at the "more innovative than all" part. What a crock.
Some of you are just so damn obvious lol!!
Oh I undoubtedly lost you at the point your personal opinion differed from mine.
However, to then call my opinion as defacto 'a crock' fits neatly into another post I made with the following equation.
A - personal experience of game
B - susceptibility to the standpoint of trolling/fanboi/hater posts
C - ability to seperate subjectivity from objectivity
Z - the degree to which personal bias is reported as fact
A x B = Z
C
You will note that there is no term for 'holistic intepretation' in the equation - I am sure you can see why....
If you want to critique my posts then back it up with something, or in fact it will be your posts which will more accurately be described as 'a crock'.
Okieee.... let's see. You are educating him on 'difference of opinion' and yet in your last reply you labelled others 'trolls' simply for having a different opinion about GW2?
I see.
Yes I didn't add the necessary addition to the formula having taken it with the previous contextually limited reference in place.
So you will now see the necessary correction in the original post.
I am always happy to take logical cricism on the chin - and you are indeed correct to point out the potential for confusion over perceived bias.
However, your conclusion was incorrect - it was not my intention to merely direct the formula on this occassion to trolls - but to bias in general. I didn't accuse him of trolling - I had the term in the formula.
Trolling can be pro OR con....
.... and whilst we are on opinion....
Asurans, magic tech, lack of specifically Guild focussed play content, the slightly too great an emphasis on 'popcorn and bubblegum' style fantasy and of course the few but significant longevity potholes in GW2 mean I will not be playing it long term.
I looked for an MMO home and didn't find it here - not because 'it's not an MMO' (the most pathetic arguement to date I have seen here), but because it fails to engage sufficiently in the long term 'sense of acheivement' department.
A great pity - and they may change it to suit. I don't know - and nobody else does really. However, they aren't going to take out the ridiculous borg-assimilated gremlins that are Asurans so I won't be here once ESO comes out.
That said - it is however generally a very good MMO from an objective standpoint (once you take out the 'but that's not what an MMO is to me, and I am a special snowflake' arguments). I am wearied of the unashamedly extreme bias of those trying to undermine what GW2 does well with their desperately narrow view and single-issue criticisms which they manage again and again to expand to the conclusion that the whole game is a steaming pile of ****.
This does apply to a significantly lesser degree to the most avid fans of the game - but the difference in scale and the desire to insult others in support of their argumenst does not compare favourably for the 'haters'.
They really do need to learn the basics of debate and to post without the playground hyperbole.