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Ok, let your paranoia run wild about Microsoft's plan to control the gaming market.
http://www.theverge.com/2012/11/12/3634852/microsoft-directx-11-1-windows-8
What does this mean in the long term? Any games that rely on DirectX 11.1 will only run under Windows 8. I'm not sure how long that will take...I'm still running Windows XP so I expect it'll take awhile.
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As someone who has Windows 8 installed, I will say they will need gunpoint arguments to get people to switch.
Its bad. Not even Vista bad. More like Win ME bad. Yeah really. THAT bad.
Its not that I dont like what they are trying to do, I knda do. Its just that the products is so unfinished and bug ridden, that it is not even funny.
LOL and again LOL@!
i thought of installing it on a VM to try in out - thanks for saving me the trouble...
and as for the OP - exactly like DX10 - no one noticed it and ppl will just use the one before and the one after.....
Just my 2 cents...
i thought of installing it on a VM to try in out - thanks for saving me the trouble...
and as for the OP - exactly like DX10 - no one noticed it and ppl will just use the one before and the one after.....
I've heard the opposite, on these very forums. That Windows 8 actually works. Even if it worked, you'd still need the gunpoint though, because Windows 7 works, and so does Windows XP. There's very little incentive to switch.
For Microsoft though, there's incentive to limit backwards compatibility. Mostly because of sales, but also because that backwards compatibility is expensive and causes issues that would otherwise be avoided.
Well, I'm hoping this will give a boost to OpenGL, if not Linux. I think competition is good, and another viable gaming platform would probably be a good thing for consumers.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
Hopefully more game devs will tell them where to stick win 8 now.
Just wait on win 9 , once they've suckered people with win 8 it will be "metro" only, and all your games will come through Microsoft with a crappy xbl setup (cost 30% more, bugger all patches, no mods, small devs pushed out)
They can sell it to casual home users with the "ooo look its like iPad" interface. They are trying to force home power users / gamers onto it with these tricks. I wonder what wheeze they will come up with to force business users onto it.
Xbox style cut from every pc game.
You obviously don't know what you're talking about. I've ran win8 release preview excusively for months and it worked flawlessly, just as good as windows 7 and sometimes better. It definitely starts much faster than win7 sometimes feels instant. The ONLY thing throwing people off is the metro UI, which you don't need to use.
Is there an incentive to switch from win7 to win8? Not unless you want a laptop/tablet combo or just a tablet. But if you were to switch, metro UI is the only thing you would notice being different, and like I said before, you don't have to use it.
If you are holding out for the perfect game, the only game you play will be the waiting one.
Valve has no issue with Windows 8. Valve is looking at linux most likely as an OS base for their own hardware they're developing, while also offering an option for those who run linux systems and would like to play games natively. In other words, they're just exanding their customer base like any smart company will.
No different than when they decided to make STEAM for Mac. Or wait, did you think they made STEAM work for Mac because they hated Windows XP and 7 too? lol
There is absolutely nothing about Windows 8 on PC that is a detriment to Valve/STEAM. Everything installs and runs just like on every OS before it. You don't need any special apps or permissions or to use a MS store or anything else.
Valve was not happy because Microsoft's plan is to move to a closed ecosystem, similar to what Apple has with the iPad. That's where WindowsRT comes in (Windows 8 on a tablet). Beyond that, Windows 8 doesn't work too much different that Win7 in that you can install and run anything that will install.
I can not remember winning or losing a single debate on the internet.
I got a copy of Windows 8 free through my school and I have zero complaints about the OS on a meaningful level. It's more having to adapt to the new layout. I don't get the Windows 8 hate... not like this is Vista 2.0
Try it before you hate on it.
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LOL, what? You've clearly not even used Windows 8 at all. I've been running it since launch and have had no issues. I really enjoyed Windows 7, but 8 is clearly much faster and has some nice improvements (Task Manager). Some of the apps in Metro are quite good as well.
Steam works perfectly as do all of the games I play.
Windows ME and Vista were truly awful; Windows 8 is quite nice. If anyone has any doubts about it, try going into a retail store and playing around with it for while. I demo it for customers at work all the time and the majority of them like it.
If you don't like it after honestly giving it a try, then that's your right, but don't delude yourself into thinking that it's another Vista or ME.
It looks ugly as **** on a monitor. No reason to try something that looks like trash.
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That part there Mr. Gates, made my left eyebrow raise.
Ehhh Windows 8 still has a ways to go. My sound randomly stops working until I disable the speakers and reenable them under Hardware and sound (not just mute and unmute). Sadly I was on the latest Windows 8 driver for them too.
Also had a lot of issues getting my G400 mouse to be programmable.
For now I am back with Windows 7... Windows 8 with Start8 is not horrible.. but I would never use it without Start8. At least it makes it more Windows 7 like then lol.
I DO know what i am talking about.
* The standard metro apps actaully have a lot of bugs. Try using them.
* I work a lot from home. At work my pc is Win 7 and I remote desktop to it. After the Win8 upgrade the remote desktop client (mstsc.exe) simply crashes after a few minutes every time I start it.
* The idea of Metro start screen is a nice idea, it just have more usablity issues than use can shake a stick at currently. Especially or a normal non-touch PC. Example: If you want to start a random program whiloe on your desktop, you have to swtich to Metro, right click on blank area, press show all apps in the pop up. Wait for the programs app to load, then sidescroll to find your old programs menu items. Hell yeah, thats usablity gone wrong for you.
* If you thought the old lower right corner pop up boxes annoyed you, the new purple larger square box that slide in from the right will make you jump out a window. And that one really gets funny if you open, say a media file, that has an app that COULOD play it. Then it informs you EVERY TIME you open it with a non metro app that there is a metro app that could play it. Does it have a "Go away and staty away" button? Nah...
I do know what i am talking about. I have been a MS man since Win 95. And I tell you, Win 8 is full of good intentions, (so was Win ME mind you) it just does not cut it as a replacement for Win7. That said I am Sure that one a pure WinRT device, it will work nicely, once they sort out the bugs in the standard Metro apps. But as a replacement for Win7 on a non touch device? No. Just, no.
MAC OSX / iOS will be the future of gaming!
*raises fists to heaven*
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Windows 7 is the best windows in the existence of man kind. There is no way I am switching to 8. I will probably go for 9 which will probably have all the crap in 8 fixed.
People still use XP? After using Windows 7 I just can't go back to that horrible Windows!
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Did you read my message?
Its not that the INTENTIONS in Win 8 are bad. I know there is a lot of stuff you can do in it. But like Vista and ME the actual IMPLEMENTATION is flawed and bug ridden.