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Computer Suggestion

Hi,

I am fairly new to the boards here. I am also not really a technical guy. I want to buy a new computer because I am sick of never getting games to run properly. It is always my luck.

In any case, I have about $1500-1700 to spend. The system I am looking at comes with a AMD Athlon 64 3500 2.2GHz CPU. It also comes with an nVidia GeForce 7800 GTX graphics card. It also has 1024 RAM. I am wondering, if it is better to go with this configuration as it is, or:

Upgrade the CPU to say AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200 2.2GHZ, and then get dual graphics cards, like the nVidia 6600 256. Or...

Should I stick with the original CPU, but get dual graphics cards, stepping up to the 6800 or something like that.

Like I said, I am not a techie, and I am not really a hardcore gamer, but I want to get something that works well, and I won't feel like I have to upgrade right away. I know this isn't a "crazy" "insane" rig, but I am hoping it will let me play a few MMORPG's with some nice graphics. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks a lot.

 

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  • UmbroodUmbrood Member UncommonPosts: 1,809

    That first system does not look to bad if you can get it in that price range, allthough it seems they cut back on ram and CPU to get that graphic card, wich is state of the art as of right now and probably is about 500$+ of that price.

    What is you current system, and what other parts come with that first rig?

    Of them two choices I would go with the first easy, but that does not mean there arent even better options open for you, would you be able to build yourself?

    Some parts on a comp have shorter life then others, for example my screen is from a build 3 computers ago, a 19" samsung wich I am very happy with, hardrives as well have a long life, cd/dvd+r+rw also.

    Last time I switched I only got motherboard, cpu, ram. Soon after I switched graphic card And I just installed a new HD.

    Each to their own of course but I dont mind taking the thing apart now and then.

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  • benz9benz9 Member Posts: 8

    Thanks for the response.

    To answer your questions. My current system is a Dell Laptop. I tried to run Galaxies on it just this past Saturday and it wouldn't work. Then I tried to fix the problem myself and had all sorts of video driver issues causing the system to crash. Right now its working, but I have a modified ATI driver running in it. So to answer your other question...

    I wouldn't know where to begin building a computer. Like I said I am technically fairly inept. Its the simple truth, but I still like to play games so I'd like a nice computer. The rig I was looking at was the Force Recon from www.vigorgaming.com. Their computers seem to be quite a good value and they also seem to be reputable so I have been looking at them.

    Here are the system specs and the price. It seems pretty good from all the research I've done. I don't think that I need as much HD capacity, so I am thinking about skipping the second hard drive. Additional RAM really drives up the price, but for relatively the same price there are interesting combinations one can make with the CPU and graphics cards.

    Anyway, thanks for responding. Lemme know what you think.


    PROCESSOR AMD Athlon 64 3500+ Processor at 2.2GHz, 2000MHz FSB, 512KB Cache
    RIG Vigor FORCE TornadoTM Air Vent Screwless Chassis
    RIG COLOR Black
    RIG STYLE Deep Blue Delta Window with lock
    RIG COOLING Vigor TornadoTM Air Vent with Dual 120MM Case Fan
    RIG POWER Standard AMD/Intel Certified 500 Watt Power Supply
    RIG DIMENSIONS 8.00" Width X 22.00" Depth X 21.50" Height.
    MB CORE LOGIC Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe nVidia nForce 4 SLI w/2000MHz FSB, 16X PCI Express and Dual RAID
    MEMORY 1024MB (1GB) PC-3200 DDR 400MHz Memory (2 X 512 MB Modules)
    HARD DRIVE 1 160GB S-ATA 7200 RPM Hard Drive
    HARD DRIVE 2 160GB S-ATA 7200 RPM Hard Drive
    RAID SETTING RAID 0 Performace - Striped Drives
    VIDEO CARD (SLI SLOT 1) nVidia GeForce 7800 GTX 256MB DDR3 w/PCI Express, DVI and TV Out
    VIDEO CARD (SLI SLOT 2) None.
    OPTICAL DRIVE 1 Internal DVD+CD Rewritable Combo Drive 16X52X32X52
    OPTICAL DRIVE 2 None.
    RECORDING SOFTWARE Bundled DVD/CDRW Software
    SOUND Creative Sound Blaster Audigy 2
    NETWORK PORT Onboard Gigabit (10/100/1000) PCI Network Card
    I/O PORTS 1 Parallel, 1 Game/Midi, 1 IEEE 1394 Firewire and 10 USB ports
    MONITOR None.
    SPEAKERS None.
    KEYBOARD Standard Black Internet Multimedia Keyboard
    MOUSE Standard Black Optical Wheel Mouse
    OPERATING SYSTEM Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition with Service Pack 2
    SERVICE Standard 3 Year Limited Parts and Labor Warranty
    STORAGE MEDIA None.
    SOFTWARE BUNDLE None.
    ADDITIONAL SOFTWARE None.
    Price: $1608.00

     

     

  • grimweepergrimweeper Member Posts: 2,047

    that computer you posted is pretty damn good, and the price is good too.

    since you have a labtop, the only choice you have is to upgrade to that computer, becouse you cant really change the processor, or buy a new gfx card for labtops, you can buy the processor but you very hard to replace on a laptop and voids you warranty, and might cost you alot if you pay someone to do it.

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  • jimmyman99jimmyman99 Member UncommonPosts: 3,221

    Yes, that configuration is good. Keep your AMD 64 and 7800 vidcard, thats better then having x2 and 6600, most games use vid card power more then CPU power so its better to have a more powerful vidcard then CPU. Also as a side note, most of the time double-vid card doesnt help much unless the game actualy supports it. I personaly would stick with 1 top of the line vidcard (which is currently 7800GTX from nvidia and x1800XT from ATI). Im gonna get me a 7800GTX this weekend... *DROOL*

    I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
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  • benz9benz9 Member Posts: 8
    Thanks. I wasn't sure, that clears it up a bit. One other question, is manufactuer of RAM that important. I know that quantity is, but are there other factors to consider. This computer is a very good price, but the it seems like the 1 gig of RAM is a generic make. At this particular company getting "name" brand RAM really drives up the price...but all things considered it still seems like a good system. Is this something to be concerned about, considering the cost benefit? Thanks again for the responses. 
  • ElapsedElapsed Member UncommonPosts: 2,329

    It's not worth getting "name brand" RAM unless you're overclocking. The only problem with generic cheap memory is that they may try to pawn off some bad sticks. I suggest running a program called Memtest , which tests the RAM for errors.

  • jimmyman99jimmyman99 Member UncommonPosts: 3,221

    as Jaguar said, brand name means simply more reliable, less chance the stick will be bad. Good brand doesnt mean its FASTER or more efficient. But more then 1 gig RAM if u wanna realy enjoy high quality games. 2 gig, if u can dual channel 3200

    I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
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