Originally posted by Mannish OP just curious to how long have you been playing Guild Wars 2 and also what other mmos have you played and enjoyed?
Oh look here comes "because you enjoy GW2 you must be new to the MMO genre". Nice lets see what other characters can come along with the elitist comments.
You are wrong and do you know how dumb you look trying to tell me what I am saying?
So yes insulting me will make you look right, so if I am wrong please enlighten me why would you ask how long have you been playing GW2 and what other mmo have you played and enjoyed, What could you possibly get out of that besides oh HEY look he plays themeparks so let me enlighten him what real "men" play like sandboxes.
because its not MMO... while you leveling its single player RPG, if you want grind endgame dungeons it turns into Co-op RPG for 5 players same goes for small scale pvp and if you want "mass pvp" it turns into "which realm got more players zerging from one castle to another" so it's just normal "stick with masses and you will win it!" you will enjoy it for 2~4 months, if you stay there for longer time, you never played good game or you don't know how to value your precious free time...
Originally posted by Vidir I dont like the game but I dont bash it.
If you are just being honest about all the shortfalls of Guild Wars 2, I don't see how anyone can consider it bashing. /boggle
When (some of you) were younger and you gave your report card to your Mom, and even before she looked at it, you told her you didn't do very good .. was that bashing? No it was honesty.
Many are putting this game on a pedestal above all other games. This game is without a doubt a good leaning to great game but it certainly doesn't put it above anything else.
Many bugs in game but people seem to shrug it off as "It happens in every game" (It does happen) but when any other game has the same bug or similar it gets bashed to death. Do I have to say again about arah gate getting stuck making you unable to enter arah dungeon for the whole weekend or more and this happens EVERY week....
Have you seen any complaint? Nope, if it was any other game I wouldn't be able to count the amount of hate threads about such a big issue that is still not fixed!!!
That right there is what makes these bashing threads, rose tinted glasses fanboys that overlook any issue even if serious but bash other games repeatedly.
Originally posted by Voicekrack Guild Wars 2 is a great game, i've enjoyed it for a while now. Why that every time i get on mmorpg.com there are so many people bashing it?
Well it's an easy answer .....it's just a matter of numbers
In 2006 there were 10 million players playing WOW and life was good ...fast forward to 2012 and this is what you get
3ook playing Eve
300k playing Rift
2.4 million playing WOW
This leaves 7 million folks either playing GW2 ....not playing anything or as the vast majority around this site jumpiing back and forth from every piece of shit made since 2006 . Half the folks bashing GW2 can't play any game more then a month without losing intrest and jumping to the next great thing This mindset leaves you the bashers who can't find anything they like to play themselves but live by the motto" misery deserves company" and if they can't find anything to play and enjoy then nobody else should be having fun either
because its not MMO... while you leveling its single player RPG, if you want grind endgame dungeons it turns into Co-op RPG for 5 players same goes for small scale pvp and if you want "mass pvp" it turns into "which realm got more players zerging from one castle to another" so it's just normal "stick with masses and you will win it!" you will enjoy it for 2~4 months, if you stay there for longer time, you never played good game or you don't know how to value your precious free time...
I very much agree with this. If you love GW2, that's great! I'm happy you have a video game that you like. However, it doesn't feel like a true MMORPG. People will argue the definition of MMORPG forever, but I can say for certain that I grew bored with GW2 more quickly than any other "AAA" MMORPG I have ever played.
Because there are enough people playing for it to still be talked about. Honestly, all the MMO community does it complain and fight amongst themselves anymore. You will never hear anything positive about an MMO these days as everything is drown out under mountains of people with a chip on their shoulder looking for any flaw no matter how trivial to shit all over the entire game. Same for if that flaw isn't immediately rectified an hour after posting, because, you know, development and feedback response doesn't take more than a few minutes right? This doesn't just go for GW2, this goes for the genre in general right now.
This website has a much larger hardcore crowd, and gw2 was made for casuals, which hardcores despise (what is funny casuals do not realize it). Gw2 represents a change in the genre of mmos, significant enough it shocked many hardcores at it is different from their common games. This isn't a bad thing, one just has to understand the different communities.
Originally posted by Voicekrack Guild Wars 2 is a great game, i've enjoyed it for a while now. Why that every time i get on mmorpg.com there are so many people bashing it?
Well it's an easy answer .....it's just a matter of numbers
In 2006 there were 10 million players playing WOW and life was good ...fast forward to 2012 and this is what you get
3ook playing Eve
300k playing Rift
2.4 million playing WOW
This leaves 7 million folks either playing GW2 ....not playing anything or as the vast majority around this site jumpiing back and forth from every piece of shit made since 2006 . Half the folks bashing GW2 can't play any game more then a month without losing intrest and jumping to the next great thing This mindset leaves you the bashers who can't find anything they like to play themselves but live by the motto" misery deserves company" and if they can't find anything to play and enjoy then nobody else should be having fun either
Originally posted by Kuppa Like with every popular product many love it and many hate it.
More like, with every product, there are going to be some people that don't like it - and the more popular that product is, the more people that like it, the more there are also going to be people that don't. It's simply a matter of reaching more people, on all sides.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
Originally posted by KingJiggly This website has a much larger hardcore crowd, and gw2 was made for casuals, which hardcores despise (what is funny casuals do not realize it). Gw2 represents a change in the genre of mmos, significant enough it shocked many hardcores at it is different from their common games. This isn't a bad thing, one just has to understand the different communities.
It's not entirely a shift in MMO's. Farmville existed long before GW2, and was REALLY popular (as well as all Zynga's games 'villes). But GW2 had better graphics, and that attracts the crowd who love graphics over gameplay. It also attracts anyone looking for newer technology.
The hardcores want a game that is deep, complex, and worth playing for years. But don't discount them so fast, KingJiggly. Those are the folks who made computer games popular in the first place. You wouldn't be playing your GW2 if it weren't for, say, the popularity of games on the Apple 2e, which drove sales up, costs down, and lead to IBM machines. Home computers wouldn't be very much if they were simply business only. Games pushed them into the monsters they are today, and it was those hardcore gamers who drove innovation in hardware .. those who allowed GW2 to take place. Don't forget your roots, as a gamer.
The fact that another casual game exists isn't surprising. Life is about learning, and those hardcore fans learned a great deal about Hype .. just because a game has pretty graphics doesn't mean it has longevity. Give me EverQuest .. it was social .. it could be casual if you allowed it to be .. and with every passing day I felt progress.
I wasn't hardcore in EQ btw .. I just played occasionally through the week, since I had 2 jobs. But every moment I spent with other players was magical. Sorry GW2 doesn't have the same effect (I couldn't even name 1 other person in GW2).
GW2 feels that, I, as a gamer, am going in the wrong direction. You might feel differently, but GW2 is counterproductive to quality MMORPG's.
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I think there are alot of complaints because certain people just don't understand some things.
There are people standing around looking for the "!" mark to be hovering over a persons head. It's probably a real immersion breaker if the NPC's don't have the "!" They get frustrated because they'd like to join that group of people fighting the pack of Ettins but they just don't see the quest giver anywhere.
They see people run up and mine a resource node, so they turn around and walk away sadfaced. They don't even try to mine the node because every other game screwed them over for resources shared between all players.
They look at the armor and make sad faces because the armor they want to wear doesn't look as cool as the armor they are wearing but has much better stats. They don't understand that you can use a transmutation stone to transfer the item skin, and justifiably, that is a tough one to comprehend.
They are puzzled by the fact of jumping puzzles being in a mmorpg. They still think that mmorpg are about smashing your face into a wall 500 times each night to finally gain a reward after 2 months. Then you start on the next wall.
They are ticked because their masterwork game didn't get nominated for an award at any gaming website, and they want to share their rage.
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
I think there are alot of complaints because certain people just don't understand some things.
There are people standing around looking for the "!" mark to be hovering over a persons head. It's probably a real immersion breaker if the NPC's don't have the "!" They get frustrated because they'd like to join that group of people fighting the pack of Ettins but they just don't see the quest giver anywhere.
They see people run up and mine a resource node, so they turn around and walk away sadfaced. They don't even try to mine the node because every other game screwed them over for resources shared between all players.
They look at the armor and make sad faces because the armor they want to wear doesn't look as cool as the armor they are wearing but has much better stats. They don't understand that you can use a transmutation stone to transfer the item skin, and justifiably, that is a tough one to comprehend.
They are puzzled by the fact of jumping puzzles being in a mmorpg. They still think that mmorpg are about smashing your face into a wall 500 times each night to finally gain a reward after 2 months. Then you start on the next wall.
They are ticked because their masterwork game didn't get nominated for an award at any gaming website, and they want to share their rage.
In this post, it looks like you are saying that anyone who doesn't like GW2 is incapable of understanding the simple systems used within the game. Just to be clear, is that what you are saying?
They look at the armor and make sad faces because the armor they want to wear doesn't look as cool as the armor they are wearing but has much better stats. They don't understand that you can use a transmutation stone to transfer the item skin, and justifiably, that is a tough one to comprehend.
Yeah, because other games only had that feature for bloody years.
The simple fact of the matter is that GW2 bashing is an equal and opposite reaction to the laughably incorrect predictions of what GW2 was going to be by it's fanbase.
I'll never forget laughing myself off my chair when a friend cited "map completion" as a remarkable feature in a videogame.
well right now OP I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Their recent addition of the gear treadmill sent me for a loop and now their endless DR traps are really getting tiresome (of which they said it was the communities imagination).
So As the game is now, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone because they'll fall into the same trappings of getting to level 80 and being herded to the store to purchase gems for gold to do anything including get exotic gear.
Hold onto your chairs because yes I said that. I've turned the game off for now.
Originally posted by Voicekrack Guild Wars 2 is a great game, i've enjoyed it for a while now. Why that every time i get on mmorpg.com there are so many people bashing it?
Actually most of the people is not bashing the game itself but the team managing it due to obvious mismanagement.
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Originally posted by KingJiggly This website has a much larger hardcore crowd, and gw2 was made for casuals, which hardcores despise (what is funny casuals do not realize it). Gw2 represents a change in the genre of mmos, significant enough it shocked many hardcores at it is different from their common games. This isn't a bad thing, one just has to understand the different communities.
It's not entirely a shift in MMO's. Farmville existed long before GW2, and was REALLY popular (as well as all Zynga's games 'villes). But GW2 had better graphics, and that attracts the crowd who love graphics over gameplay. It also attracts anyone looking for newer technology.
The hardcores want a game that is deep, complex, and worth playing for years. But don't discount them so fast, KingJiggly. Those are the folks who made computer games popular in the first place. You wouldn't be playing your GW2 if it weren't for, say, the popularity of games on the Apple 2e, which drove sales up, costs down, and lead to IBM machines. Home computers wouldn't be very much if they were simply business only. Games pushed them into the monsters they are today, and it was those hardcore gamers who drove innovation in hardware .. those who allowed GW2 to take place. Don't forget your roots, as a gamer.
The fact that another casual game exists isn't surprising. Life is about learning, and those hardcore fans learned a great deal about Hype .. just because a game has pretty graphics doesn't mean it has longevity. Give me EverQuest .. it was social .. it could be casual if you allowed it to be .. and with every passing day I felt progress.
I wasn't hardcore in EQ btw .. I just played occasionally through the week, since I had 2 jobs. But every moment I spent with other players was magical. Sorry GW2 doesn't have the same effect (I couldn't even name 1 other person in GW2).
GW2 feels that, I, as a gamer, am going in the wrong direction. You might feel differently, but GW2 is counterproductive to quality MMORPG's.
Thank you for the reply, I enjoyed reading it.
I am not discounting the hardcore players, much less the fact they made online gaming into what it is today. There will always be MMOs for them, however gw2 is definantly not one of them. Gw2 was made for the casual players, and has moved on from the rather small harccore crowd to seek larger populations and communities. Simply becuase my grandfather (as in the past hardcore players) enjoyed this type of game, doesn't mean the future generation will. And, well, the fute gen haven't. Guild wars 2 has reached this population tremendously, as many people at my school (about 30) have taken up gw2, people who haven't enjoyed mmos in years. I dont mean any disrespect, but your age as gamers has come and gone, and this is where it seems to be heading. My roots are with the new generation, I am still in High School
Look at the rise of league of legends. I am not going to argue you other points as they are opinion, however as a casual gamer I feel gw2 is a step in the right direction, and if that style of game is built upon more, it will be more succesful than any MMO before it.
I think there are alot of complaints because certain people just don't understand some things.
There are people standing around looking for the "!" mark to be hovering over a persons head. It's probably a real immersion breaker if the NPC's don't have the "!" They get frustrated because they'd like to join that group of people fighting the pack of Ettins but they just don't see the quest giver anywhere.
They see people run up and mine a resource node, so they turn around and walk away sadfaced. They don't even try to mine the node because every other game screwed them over for resources shared between all players.
They look at the armor and make sad faces because the armor they want to wear doesn't look as cool as the armor they are wearing but has much better stats. They don't understand that you can use a transmutation stone to transfer the item skin, and justifiably, that is a tough one to comprehend.
They are puzzled by the fact of jumping puzzles being in a mmorpg. They still think that mmorpg are about smashing your face into a wall 500 times each night to finally gain a reward after 2 months. Then you start on the next wall.
They are ticked because their masterwork game didn't get nominated for an award at any gaming website, and they want to share their rage.
In this post, it looks like you are saying that anyone who doesn't like GW2 is incapable of understanding the simple systems used within the game. Just to be clear, is that what you are saying?
Just to be clear, in my post I stated that I felt there were certain people that suffered from those problems, and there have been those EXACT posted complaints on this very site (except for the jumping puzzle one, the face smashing part was how I felt in AION). And no I'm not going to look them up for you.
So just to be clear, my post stands exactly the way that I posted it. You can take from it what you want.
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
For me personally the game itself was ok, but ANet themselves have proven themselves to be incompetent. The majority of bugs since beta (especially profession bugs and broken traits) remain broken. They added a new tier of stats despite saying they advocated horizontal progression. They have absolutely abysmal communication with their playerbase, to the extent that they outright lied about the implementation of the ascended gear (one of the devs said something in a Reddit Q&A that contradicted another dev in the blog).
The Karka patch made it pretty obvious to a lot of players that ANet had lost out to either NCSoft or Nexon, especially with all the subtle hints in the patch that were obvious cries for help from the dev team (there was a jumping puzzle randomly titled 'Under New Management' among other things).
You'll find the majority of the really vocal bashing started after that Karka patch which is when a LOT of people left due to the ascended gear debacle. The game had the potential to be great but it seems NCSoft or Nexon got greedy and pushed the game in a direction contrary to what a lot of people bought it for.
Originally posted by Voicekrack Guild Wars 2 is a great game, i've enjoyed it for a while now. Why that every time i get on mmorpg.com there are so many people bashing it?
Originally posted by Voicekrack Guild Wars 2 is a great game, i've enjoyed it for a while now. Why that every time i get on mmorpg.com there are so many people bashing it?
Same reason these same people slammed WoW, Rift, Aion, SWTOR, LOTRO etc etc, it's the "in" thing to do.
Most won't have even played the game, some might not know anything about it whatsoever, they just like to rant and troll.
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So yes insulting me will make you look right, so if I am wrong please enlighten me why would you ask how long have you been playing GW2 and what other mmo have you played and enjoyed, What could you possibly get out of that besides oh HEY look he plays themeparks so let me enlighten him what real "men" play like sandboxes.
tell me if I am wrong lol
because its not MMO... while you leveling its single player RPG, if you want grind endgame dungeons it turns into Co-op RPG for 5 players same goes for small scale pvp and if you want "mass pvp" it turns into "which realm got more players zerging from one castle to another" so it's just normal "stick with masses and you will win it!" you will enjoy it for 2~4 months, if you stay there for longer time, you never played good game or you don't know how to value your precious free time...
If you are just being honest about all the shortfalls of Guild Wars 2, I don't see how anyone can consider it bashing. /boggle
When (some of you) were younger and you gave your report card to your Mom, and even before she looked at it, you told her you didn't do very good .. was that bashing? No it was honesty.
Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.
It's simple.
Many are putting this game on a pedestal above all other games. This game is without a doubt a good leaning to great game but it certainly doesn't put it above anything else.
Many bugs in game but people seem to shrug it off as "It happens in every game" (It does happen) but when any other game has the same bug or similar it gets bashed to death. Do I have to say again about arah gate getting stuck making you unable to enter arah dungeon for the whole weekend or more and this happens EVERY week....
Have you seen any complaint? Nope, if it was any other game I wouldn't be able to count the amount of hate threads about such a big issue that is still not fixed!!!
That right there is what makes these bashing threads, rose tinted glasses fanboys that overlook any issue even if serious but bash other games repeatedly.
Well it's an easy answer .....it's just a matter of numbers
In 2006 there were 10 million players playing WOW and life was good ...fast forward to 2012 and this is what you get
3ook playing Eve
300k playing Rift
2.4 million playing WOW
This leaves 7 million folks either playing GW2 ....not playing anything or as the vast majority around this site jumpiing back and forth from every piece of shit made since 2006 . Half the folks bashing GW2 can't play any game more then a month without losing intrest and jumping to the next great thing This mindset leaves you the bashers who can't find anything they like to play themselves but live by the motto" misery deserves company" and if they can't find anything to play and enjoy then nobody else should be having fun either
I very much agree with this. If you love GW2, that's great! I'm happy you have a video game that you like. However, it doesn't feel like a true MMORPG. People will argue the definition of MMORPG forever, but I can say for certain that I grew bored with GW2 more quickly than any other "AAA" MMORPG I have ever played.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/innovation
EVE is sitting higher than that. http://massively.joystiq.com/2012/12/12/eve-online-breaks-the-450k-subscriber-mark/
More like, with every product, there are going to be some people that don't like it - and the more popular that product is, the more people that like it, the more there are also going to be people that don't. It's simply a matter of reaching more people, on all sides.
When I want a single-player story, I'll play a single-player game. When I play an MMO, I want a massively multiplayer world.
'cus it blows..
It's not entirely a shift in MMO's. Farmville existed long before GW2, and was REALLY popular (as well as all Zynga's games 'villes). But GW2 had better graphics, and that attracts the crowd who love graphics over gameplay. It also attracts anyone looking for newer technology.
The hardcores want a game that is deep, complex, and worth playing for years. But don't discount them so fast, KingJiggly. Those are the folks who made computer games popular in the first place. You wouldn't be playing your GW2 if it weren't for, say, the popularity of games on the Apple 2e, which drove sales up, costs down, and lead to IBM machines. Home computers wouldn't be very much if they were simply business only. Games pushed them into the monsters they are today, and it was those hardcore gamers who drove innovation in hardware .. those who allowed GW2 to take place. Don't forget your roots, as a gamer.
The fact that another casual game exists isn't surprising. Life is about learning, and those hardcore fans learned a great deal about Hype .. just because a game has pretty graphics doesn't mean it has longevity. Give me EverQuest .. it was social .. it could be casual if you allowed it to be .. and with every passing day I felt progress.
I wasn't hardcore in EQ btw .. I just played occasionally through the week, since I had 2 jobs. But every moment I spent with other players was magical. Sorry GW2 doesn't have the same effect (I couldn't even name 1 other person in GW2).
GW2 feels that, I, as a gamer, am going in the wrong direction. You might feel differently, but GW2 is counterproductive to quality MMORPG's.
Want a nice understanding of life? Try Spirit Science: "The Human History"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U8NNHmV3QPw&feature=plcp
Recognize the voice? Yep sounds like Penny Arcade's Extra Credits.
I think there are alot of complaints because certain people just don't understand some things.
There are people standing around looking for the "!" mark to be hovering over a persons head. It's probably a real immersion breaker if the NPC's don't have the "!" They get frustrated because they'd like to join that group of people fighting the pack of Ettins but they just don't see the quest giver anywhere.
They see people run up and mine a resource node, so they turn around and walk away sadfaced. They don't even try to mine the node because every other game screwed them over for resources shared between all players.
They look at the armor and make sad faces because the armor they want to wear doesn't look as cool as the armor they are wearing but has much better stats. They don't understand that you can use a transmutation stone to transfer the item skin, and justifiably, that is a tough one to comprehend.
They are puzzled by the fact of jumping puzzles being in a mmorpg. They still think that mmorpg are about smashing your face into a wall 500 times each night to finally gain a reward after 2 months. Then you start on the next wall.
They are ticked because their masterwork game didn't get nominated for an award at any gaming website, and they want to share their rage.
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
I don't hate much, but I hate Apple© with a passion. If Steve Jobs was alive, I would punch him in the face.
In this post, it looks like you are saying that anyone who doesn't like GW2 is incapable of understanding the simple systems used within the game. Just to be clear, is that what you are saying?
Yeah, because other games only had that feature for bloody years.
The simple fact of the matter is that GW2 bashing is an equal and opposite reaction to the laughably incorrect predictions of what GW2 was going to be by it's fanbase.
I'll never forget laughing myself off my chair when a friend cited "map completion" as a remarkable feature in a videogame.
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well right now OP I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Their recent addition of the gear treadmill sent me for a loop and now their endless DR traps are really getting tiresome (of which they said it was the communities imagination).
So As the game is now, I wouldn't recommend it to anyone because they'll fall into the same trappings of getting to level 80 and being herded to the store to purchase gems for gold to do anything including get exotic gear.
Hold onto your chairs because yes I said that. I've turned the game off for now.
Actually most of the people is not bashing the game itself but the team managing it due to obvious mismanagement.
Leonard: Penny, you are on fire.
Penny: Yes, so is Sheldon.
[laughs]
Sheldon: Okay, that's it. I don't know how, but she is cheating. No-one can be that attractive and this skilled at a video game.
[walks away]
Penny: Wait, wait. Sheldon. Come back, you forgot something.
Sheldon: What?
Penny: This plasma grenade.
[explosion]
Penny: [laughs] Look! It's raining you.
Sheldon: You laugh now. You just wait until you need tech support. (Big Bang Theory)
Thank you for the reply, I enjoyed reading it.
I am not discounting the hardcore players, much less the fact they made online gaming into what it is today. There will always be MMOs for them, however gw2 is definantly not one of them. Gw2 was made for the casual players, and has moved on from the rather small harccore crowd to seek larger populations and communities. Simply becuase my grandfather (as in the past hardcore players) enjoyed this type of game, doesn't mean the future generation will. And, well, the fute gen haven't. Guild wars 2 has reached this population tremendously, as many people at my school (about 30) have taken up gw2, people who haven't enjoyed mmos in years. I dont mean any disrespect, but your age as gamers has come and gone, and this is where it seems to be heading. My roots are with the new generation, I am still in High School
Look at the rise of league of legends. I am not going to argue you other points as they are opinion, however as a casual gamer I feel gw2 is a step in the right direction, and if that style of game is built upon more, it will be more succesful than any MMO before it.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/innovation
Just to be clear, in my post I stated that I felt there were certain people that suffered from those problems, and there have been those EXACT posted complaints on this very site (except for the jumping puzzle one, the face smashing part was how I felt in AION). And no I'm not going to look them up for you.
So just to be clear, my post stands exactly the way that I posted it. You can take from it what you want.
All of my posts are either intelligent, thought provoking, funny, satirical, sarcastic or intentionally disrespectful. Take your pick.
I get banned in the forums for games I love, so lets see if I do better in the forums for games I hate.
I enjoy the serenity of not caring what your opinion is.
I don't hate much, but I hate Apple© with a passion. If Steve Jobs was alive, I would punch him in the face.
For me personally the game itself was ok, but ANet themselves have proven themselves to be incompetent. The majority of bugs since beta (especially profession bugs and broken traits) remain broken. They added a new tier of stats despite saying they advocated horizontal progression. They have absolutely abysmal communication with their playerbase, to the extent that they outright lied about the implementation of the ascended gear (one of the devs said something in a Reddit Q&A that contradicted another dev in the blog).
The Karka patch made it pretty obvious to a lot of players that ANet had lost out to either NCSoft or Nexon, especially with all the subtle hints in the patch that were obvious cries for help from the dev team (there was a jumping puzzle randomly titled 'Under New Management' among other things).
You'll find the majority of the really vocal bashing started after that Karka patch which is when a LOT of people left due to the ascended gear debacle. The game had the potential to be great but it seems NCSoft or Nexon got greedy and pushed the game in a direction contrary to what a lot of people bought it for.
Same reason these same people slammed WoW, Rift, Aion, SWTOR, LOTRO etc etc, it's the "in" thing to do.
Most won't have even played the game, some might not know anything about it whatsoever, they just like to rant and troll.
Expresso gave me a Hearthstone beta key.....I'm so happy