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  • DeivosDeivos Member EpicPosts: 3,692
    Lucas was the worst thing to happen to Star Wars, ironically enough. I really don't see Disney being the nail in the coffin here.

    "The knowledge of the theory of logic has no tendency whatever to make men good reasoners." - Thomas B. Macaulay

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  • VyntVynt Member UncommonPosts: 757
    Originally posted by Pelaaja
    Originally posted by Starpower
    Originally posted by winter
    Originally posted by turkishmafia

    Trion should be involved with making the next Star Wars MMORPG.

    That is all.

     There is no "next Star Wars MMORPG" The IP is old and dead.

    that is all.

    Except for the next 3 Star Wars movies coming up

     

    Anywho Trions one hit wonder only showed they could deliver a polished product that's all. If that's the bar we set these days then we really have sunk to new lows

    Along those movies SW-fans may witness the death of their beloved universe. It's Disney, it's going to be some rude awakening. And they will cry George to save their souls, even he can't be that bad.

    I really hope Trion won't fade away as a one hit wonder. Afterall, they did introduce a solid product with new story and tested mechanics. And as hard niche MMORPG games are, they did awesome.

    Disney will probably do a good job. They own Marvel and brought out all those marvel movies and are now chruning them out at a good rate.

    Also they got J.J. Abrams to do the next star wars movie. I expect it to probably be better than most of the recent crap.

  • William12William12 Member Posts: 680

    All the hate for something SOE may or may not of been forced to do is absurd.  Sorry, but anyone who thinks lucas didnt have his hands in the NGE decision are fools any and all major changes to the game are up to lucas they own the IP they atleast approved the change stop letting them off the hook.   This is something 20 years down the road youll find the truth about from some ex employee who knew what really happen because even today SOE has contracts with the IP they don't wanna lose so do you reall think they're gonna slam lucas for it or blame him ?  No.

    SOE like any company deserves a chance at redemption starting with planetside 2 the game is amazing people can cry they dont like it, but close to a million people play it. 

     

    They have 2-3 more MMOs coming out this year dragons prophet and another one + eq next either this year or next. 

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441

    Trion are excellent when they support their game, no doubt about that but I still dont agree with OP.

    Making a good sci-fi MMO is not like a fantasy games, sci-fi needs its own mechanics.

    For one thing does the trinity not work at all for the IP, while there are healers in the Star wars universe healing is a slow process and only a few Jedi can do it. Game mechanics needs to be focused on avoiding damage with dodging, real cover rules and parrying (with lightsabers and forced imbued weapons) instead.

    The focus on ranged combat also differs from fantasy games, and the force should not be treated just as basic fantasy magic either.

    So to find someone to make a good SW game you need someone that can think outside the box. Rockstar, CCP or Undead labs are my favorites for this(but Lucas arts or Disney would have to help fun CCP if they were the one) but there are others. 

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Originally posted by William12

    All the hate for something SOE may or may not of been forced to do is absurd.  Sorry, but anyone who thinks lucas didnt have his hands in the NGE decision are fools any and all major changes to the game are up to lucas they own the IP they atleast approved the change stop letting them off the hook.   This is something 20 years down the road youll find the truth about from some ex employee who knew what really happen because even today SOE has contracts with the IP they don't wanna lose so do you reall think they're gonna slam lucas for it or blame him ?  No.

    SOE like any company deserves a chance at redemption starting with planetside 2 the game is amazing people can cry they dont like it, but close to a million people play it. 

    They have 2-3 more MMOs coming out this year dragons prophet and another one + eq next either this year or next. 

    My own impression of SOE is kinda both good and bad, but they already had the chanse for a SW MMO, 2 chanses in fact.

    They did SWG that was brilliant in some ways but still never really hit the mark and they also made a Clone wars MMO that we never talk about here.

    Time to let someone else than SOE or EA try instead.

    SOE should focus on making EQ Next a great game instead.

  • SandboxSandbox Member UncommonPosts: 295
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    The part in his post where ktanner3 describes the ingame protest and hate are so true, I have never seen or heard about anything like that ever since. So I find his post very relevant to this thread. But I guess you were not there to actually see the protests and forum riots.

  • ignore_meignore_me Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,987
    Originally posted by Loke666

    Trion are excellent when they support their game, no doubt about that but I still dont agree with OP.

    Making a good sci-fi MMO is not like a fantasy games, sci-fi needs its own mechanics.

    For one thing does the trinity not work at all for the IP, while there are healers in the Star wars universe healing is a slow process and only a few Jedi can do it. Game mechanics needs to be focused on avoiding damage with dodging, real cover rules and parrying (with lightsabers and forced imbued weapons) instead.

    The focus on ranged combat also differs from fantasy games, and the force should not be treated just as basic fantasy magic either.

    So to find someone to make a good SW game you need someone that can think outside the box. Rockstar, CCP or Undead labs are my favorites for this(but Lucas arts or Disney would have to help fun CCP if they were the one) but there are others. 

    Your ideas on how the combat should work are great. I agree with pretty much everything you said here.

    Survivor of the great MMORPG Famine of 2011

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