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Dead is dead, role playing, low or no level

barndoorbarndoor Member Posts: 4
in LFGame

Hi all,

I'm a long time lurker but have never posted on these forums. I've had a quick look through recent posts on the LFGame part of this forum and not found anything that fits what I'm looking for so firstly, I'm wondering if it's actually out there.

Here's what I'm looking for-

A fantasy genre. No space games please.

Role playing! So, this site is called mmorpg.com with the RP bit being just this! So, I'm at the right place to ask? I don't want to join a world of players dashing around at high speed to click through quests to grind up levels. I would like to join a community where people indulge themselves in the story - not the grind/level/piece of all-powerful equipment.

A  "dead is dead" scenario. I want to play like suvival counts. If I die I don't want to have my character magically transported back (with all it's gear) to some safe point to start again. Dead is dead might lead to very few players having characters with super high level powers etc. This leads to...

Low or no levels. On top of this I don't want the world I am adventuring in to be crammed with a super powered  population of adventurers with no interaction with new or lower powered players. I want everyone to be able to play a small part.

An active community. By this I am looking for a game that I can log in to and find regular activity and a nice warm welcome (all done in role!)

State of the art graphics aren't important. I will get more enjoyment from some in-role banter than seeing a huge fireball fly from my sword in to some creatures face.

PvE or PvP is ok. Although, I expect that a game like this is not going to have too much PvP. Who knows?

Please, if it's out there, could somebody point me in the right direction?

 

Comments

  • Zeref.DyverZeref.Dyver Member Posts: 270

    FFXI sounds closest to what you are looking for, in my opinion. Fantastic stories and a great community, and it has always been about relaxing and playing at a pace and getting stuff done together. The game is over a decade old but it still looks great and it actually has a new expansion coming out this month, as well as a rather large playerbase.

    Other than that, FFXIV when it comes out, if it is done right.

  • Zeref.DyverZeref.Dyver Member Posts: 270
    Originally posted by Zeno89

    FFXI sounds closest to what you are looking for, in my opinion. Fantastic stories and a great community, and it has always been about relaxing and playing at a pace and getting stuff done together. The game is over a decade old but it still looks great and it actually has a new expansion coming out this month, as well as a rather large playerbase.

    Other than that, FFXIV when it comes out, if it is done right.

    Also, there isn't a HUGE death penalty, but it is a lot harsher than most MMO's out there etoday. You lose a percentage of EXP based on what level you are when you die - you can even lose a level. When you start to get up into the higher levels, this can start to really hurt, and you don't want to die.

    It doesn't have some of the things you want, but as far as I know, what you are asking for does not exist as of now.

  • SchroesCatSchroesCat Member UncommonPosts: 44

    Hello,

    I enjoy all of the elements you describe, and I am on the constant look-out for such an experience. The sad news is: I haven't found it in any of the contemporary MMORPGs.

    The good news is: An old game that may offer what you are looking for is still out there, in two versions:

    • Neverwinter Nights
    • Neverwinter Nights (2)
    They are different games, actually. Neverwinter Nights 2 being the sequel of Neverwinter Nights. Both of them have living communities. It is not one big server, but rather a toolset that allows people to create their own wolds and host them on private servers. Player numbers are limited to 64 players at a time (I think some tweaked it to allow a max of 128 players) playing simultaneously. There were hundreds, if not thousands server online with private worlds at its prime time.
    The clue is: Since the hosts are able to tweak just about every aspect of the game rules, there are many that have created roleplay heavy worlds, Hard-Core-Rules worlds (where death is anything from very serious to final). Many have death-settings where you can't respawn. You can only be revived with the help of others. But it is a very costly and painful procedure. When you fall you also drop all loot. The game has a Dungeon Master Client, which means you can expect DM-Interaction.
    The main reason why I can't play it anymore are:
    • I have played it too much over the course of about 7 years, I think.
    • I am a bit spoiled by newer graphics. I am tired of the character art in NWN, but I haven't found any game that gave me even a tenth part of the fun that I had in Neverwinter Nights.
    Hence I don't play much of anything at all these days.
    People will argue if it is a MMORPG at all. Maybe it would be better dubbed as MPORPG (Multi-Player online roleplaying game), but on many worlds the focus is just that: Roleplay. Creativity. Interaction. Create Worlds, Stories, Characters with depth together. The DMs can influence the world heavily and instantaneously. So they are very dynamic.
     
    Good old NWN. I am still waiting for something like it to be released. With better graphics I would not ever look at newer games.
    I am not sure if Gamespy still lists all the servers. Off the top of my head, I know that "Ravenloft - Prisoners of the Mists" is still going strong (Neverwinter Nights 1), often with 30-50 + players and DMs online. It is a beautiful and very stylish world. And harsh and unforgiving on the unwary. They have their website here: http://www.nwnravenloft.com/
    Other good places to find NWN servers are:
    www.neverwinterconnections.com
    www.nwvault.com
    ... and forums that are on the game-producers board:
     
    And please.. if you find any other game that fits your criteria: By all means, please post here or PM me. I would love to try out another game that matches your criteria. Other than NWN I just haven't found any.
     
  • OrtwigOrtwig Member UncommonPosts: 1,163
    Wizardry Online?
  • LoktofeitLoktofeit Member RarePosts: 14,247
    I'll second SchroesCat's recommendation. NWN has some great player run worlds, and both the Bioware Social Network and Neverwinter Vault are great hubs for the community and mods.

    There isn't a "right" or "wrong" way to play, if you want to use a screwdriver to put nails into wood, have at it, simply don't complain when the guy next to you with the hammer is doing it much better and easier. - Allein
    "Graphics are often supplied by Engines that (some) MMORPG's are built in" - Spuffyre

  • IcewhiteIcewhite Member Posts: 6,403
    Originally posted by barndoor

    Hi all,

    I'm a long time lurker but have never posted on these forums. I've had a quick look through recent posts on the LFGame part of this forum and not found anything that fits what I'm looking for so firstly, I'm wondering if it's actually out there.

    Here's what I'm looking for-

    A fantasy genre. No space games please.

    Role playing!

    Damn, made it through the first bullet point, too. Several small or niche games that might tickle what you're looking for, but in general, not something that modern mmorpgs are known for being good at. TSW perhaps? FF series? Isolated single servers just about any other title?

    Not many games in the mmo sphere still feature "drag" mechanics or suchlike. Again, you're looking at older titles.

    Since you're looking for the mythical mystic "community", you may well be seeking the smallest titles of all.

    Mmm and you want "grind/slow" leveling, too. That really, really chokes off your options.

    Damn, not even muds from the early-90s still feature a lot of drag/droppage mechanics. But they do feature no graphics!

    Redirect => topmudsites.com, play.net (sounds like you're describing Gemstone II, in the ICE age, 15-20 years ago)

    Depends, I guess, on what you think makes death "matter". Is a nice long corpse run good enough?

     

    As an unrelated aside, have you ever noticed that most of our site-wanderers are seeking the past?

    Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.

  • TheocritusTheocritus Member LegendaryPosts: 10,014
    Originally posted by Zeno89

    FFXI sounds closest to what you are looking for, in my opinion. Fantastic stories and a great community, and it has always been about relaxing and playing at a pace and getting stuff done together. The game is over a decade old but it still looks great and it actually has a new expansion coming out this month, as well as a rather large playerbase.

    Other than that, FFXIV when it comes out, if it is done right.

     When I left EQ and was looking for  a new game alot of people recommended FFXI so I gave it a try....I thought it was one of the worst MMOs I had ever played....The "great" community I had heard so much about was extremely rude and unhelpful, the graphics were blurry and terrible regardless of settings, and it just had a bad karma about it.....

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