Trion Worlds' Hal Hanlin has, according to his Facebook page, left Trion Worlds and is now the Lead Producer at social games giant, Zynga. Hanlin had worked for Trion Worlds since 2008.
I don't think these guys leaving Trion will reflect upon other games. They were there for Rift.. so if anything it's Rift that isn't doing so well these days.
As Trion moves from production to publishing, it makes sense that Dev talent would swim to warmer waters.
If in 1982 we played with the current mentality, we would have burned down all the pac man games since the red ghost was clearly OP. Instead we just got better at the game.
Logged into the game on saturday to see if it felt worth trying out the Storm Legion expansion. Every server I had charcters on were ghost towns. I'm thinking that the expansion didn't go over as well as hoped and this is just fall out from that. Its also possible that Trion is shifting its focus to Defiance and Aion so there isn't much for the Rift crew to do.
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Originally posted by Torvaldr I could sort of understand Scott moving on. He seems like an idea guy and a framework setter. Hal seems like a really nice guy and a great influence at Trion. I think Zynga is getting a great asset with this guy. I wish him luck and I hope he brings a fresh perspective to social gaming. It would be cool to see that platform move to the next level.
i take it as a sign that SL will be their last expansion for a while.
EH I have a feeling a lot of this moving is mostly due to the fact Trion is probably not fixating on making games as much. They are launching quite a few games now, of which a couple they have made themselves. There is a good probability that they are less focused upon creating new games and are more so in a less active production cycle. With a focus seeming to be on acting as a publisher more recently with games like archage, I have a feeling they are toning down game development and focusing more on adding content to running games.
I still believe they might have projects in the pipeline, just I suspect its likely just 1 project instead of multiple projects.
Looks like on the official forums they again deleted threads in which the players discussed the many writings on the wall and voiced their concerns about Rift's future.
Originally posted by Torvaldr I could sort of understand Scott moving on. He seems like an idea guy and a framework setter. Hal seems like a really nice guy and a great influence at Trion. I think Zynga is getting a great asset with this guy. I wish him luck and I hope he brings a fresh perspective to social gaming. It would be cool to see that platform move to the next level.
i take it as a sign that SL will be their last expansion for a while.
Wasn't there a hint towards another expansion to come around Rift's 3yr mark in a recent video?
I haven't seen it myself, but people talked about it on the forums.
Rift's game focus is wow's vertical progression raid system. The original intent was aimed at disenchanted wow players - amongst others.
But it appears that many people saw this game as just a raid progression wow clone that was ok until something different came along.
With GW2 plus other ftp conversions it kind of got drowned out despite the major amount of work that went into Storm Legion.
Where it goes from here I'm not sure. Ftp seems to be the flavour of the month with only wow having a robust enough player base to continue with the standard ptp model.
Want proof ? Just log into SWTOR , i bet their population quadrupaled at least - and most of players I talked with are subscripbers too.
Nope. it saw a small upsurge in its playerbase after it went F2P but that didnt last long.....SWTOR is now going the way of WAR.
P2P Rift is a quality MMO. It has a very healthy, large population and a big fanbase. Which is a lot more than I can say for F2P/P2P SWTOR.
Really? I am logged in SWTOR every day and I asure you that the surge is still on. Starting planets are full of players every day, multiple instances no matter if it's a weekday or weekend. Is it not a sign that players are coming to game? If starting zones would be empty - that's a different story.
Rift's game focus is wow's vertical progression raid system. The original intent was aimed at disenchanted wow players - amongst others.
But it appears that many people saw this game as just a raid progression wow clone that was ok until something different came along.
With GW2 plus other ftp conversions it kind of got drowned out despite the major amount of work that went into Storm Legion.
Where it goes from here I'm not sure. Ftp seems to be the flavour of the month with only wow having a robust enough player base to continue with the standard ptp model.
Not only that but every other system is an almost 1 to 1 port of WoW of a much lesser quality I might add.
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
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Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!
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Themepark P2P MMO is thing of past. Nobody can not pull it anymore.
Trion really did wonders and is probably best MMO company aside from Turbine - but the shit simply can not fly...
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Want proof ? Just log into SWTOR , i bet their population quadrupaled at least - and most of players I talked with are subscripbers too.
Wait what? So people being subscribers in a Themepark MMO is proof that the P2P MMO is a thing of the past?
If you dont do stupid things while youre young, youll have nothing to smile about when youre old.
offtopic but commmenting anyhow
if SWTOR subs are on the rise -- it was not discussed in the recent financials
http://www.joystiq.com/2013/01/31/ea-posts-45-million-net-loss-in-q3-reduces-revenue-forecast/
i did not see SWTOR mentioned at all
http://files.shareholder.com/downloads/ERTS/2297885214x0x631760/1b17f86a-b47b-44bc-aeb5-8efd05713573/Q3FY13_Earnings_Release_FINAL.pdf
EQ2 fan sites
It's because it's not true. It's just another opinion thrown around on this site stated as fact.
i take it as a sign that SL will be their last expansion for a while.
EH I have a feeling a lot of this moving is mostly due to the fact Trion is probably not fixating on making games as much. They are launching quite a few games now, of which a couple they have made themselves. There is a good probability that they are less focused upon creating new games and are more so in a less active production cycle. With a focus seeming to be on acting as a publisher more recently with games like archage, I have a feeling they are toning down game development and focusing more on adding content to running games.
I still believe they might have projects in the pipeline, just I suspect its likely just 1 project instead of multiple projects.
Looks like on the official forums they again deleted threads in which the players discussed the many writings on the wall and voiced their concerns about Rift's future.
Wasn't there a hint towards another expansion to come around Rift's 3yr mark in a recent video?
I haven't seen it myself, but people talked about it on the forums.
Rift's game focus is wow's vertical progression raid system. The original intent was aimed at disenchanted wow players - amongst others.
But it appears that many people saw this game as just a raid progression wow clone that was ok until something different came along.
With GW2 plus other ftp conversions it kind of got drowned out despite the major amount of work that went into Storm Legion.
Where it goes from here I'm not sure. Ftp seems to be the flavour of the month with only wow having a robust enough player base to continue with the standard ptp model.
P2P themepark model isnt dead....P2P for half assed WoW clones model is though....
Nope. it saw a small upsurge in its playerbase after it went F2P but that didnt last long.....SWTOR is now going the way of WAR.
P2P Rift is a quality MMO. It has a very healthy, large population and a big fanbase. Which is a lot more than I can say for F2P/P2P SWTOR.
Really? I am logged in SWTOR every day and I asure you that the surge is still on. Starting planets are full of players every day, multiple instances no matter if it's a weekday or weekend. Is it not a sign that players are coming to game? If starting zones would be empty - that's a different story.
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Not only that but every other system is an almost 1 to 1 port of WoW of a much lesser quality I might add.
Sandbox means open world, non-linear gaming PERIOD!
Subscription Gaming, especially MMO gaming is a Cash grab bigger then the most P2W cash shop!
Bring Back Exploration and lengthy progression times. RPG's have always been about the Journey not the destination!!!