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Star Wars Galaxies: Free Lightspeed and New Character Slots
Stradden
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The refund offer for Trials of Obi-Wan that was announced earlier today isn't the only news coming out of SOE's Star Wars: Galaxies. As a apart of their newfound commitment to improving both the game and its image, developers announced that the Jump to Lightspeed expansion will be given to players at no charge. They have also announced that they will be added 2 character slots to each account:
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Getting Everyone Up To Lightspeed Beginning today, as an added bonus for our veteran players who do not yet have the Jump to Lightspeed expansion (and thus, space content) we will be giving you this expansion at no additional charge. This bonus content will automatically download to you upon your next log in to the game beginning today. After all, space is more fun with other people to enjoy it with! May the Force be with you! Coming Soon - Additional Character Slots! Get ready to double your fun. In the coming months, every active player will get two characters per galaxy spread over four different galaxies (eight total max)! Stay tuned for more information. |
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I would love to have a good Star Wars mmorpg to dive into. One would think that it would take very little imagination to get it at least half way right. I say that because there is so much content to pull from that the writer for a Star Wars mmorpg would simply have to sit down and start writing player events.
The thing is, I will never shake my original experience with SWG and these drastic changes are honestly not doing anything to get me to reconsider the game. I don't want to toss around insults but the best way that I can describe my experience with SWG is "pathetic". Ouch, that's harsh, but it hits the spot.
With a plethora of content available to them that could have been used to create a genuinely fun Star Wars experience... even as I type this I'm coming up with ideas of how a new player could have taken part in the faction wars... you instead logged in to fight butterflies.
Over and over and over. Killing butterflies. There were humanoid NPCs thrown into the mix so I suppose that you had a few choices, but that was pretty much that.
I couldn't believe it, frankly. The final blow came when I found out that I would have to faction farm in order to get into a "theme park" if I wanted to do anything remotely related to Star Wars! The look on my face had to be classic...
No matter how desperate they are now, it's a pot that they've got themselves into. Ultimately it's the same team / company that created the travisty of Star Wars Galaxies and it is only this level of desperation that has forced them to try to finally be creative.
It's way, way too late for something like this in my opinion. The only way that I will look at a Star Wars MMORPG is if it is done by a completely different company. This is not intended specifically to be SOE bashing; I would feel the same way of any company or group who tossed out a product so terrible.
I simply don't trust them. Instead of making a Star Wars game focused on Star Wars you instead had to faction farm to get into a Theme Park. With the mountains of creative vision available to these people, butterfly bashing and theme parks were the best that they could do.
They say that necessity is the mother of all invention, and we see plenty of necessity and desperation in their actions here. As far as I'm concerned this group has proven that they have no creative talent, and their massive changes to the game speak volumes to me of a last ditch effort. Which, in turn, lowers my faith in the company even more.
They aught to just let the game die. Then perhaps Mr. Lucas can find a company to make a real Star Wars MMORPG - or have Lucas Arts do it themselves!
~Mysk
Uh what..? I'm sorry, butterflies? You should really look again and closer. Be on the lookout for a SWG trial, or heck, resubscribe! The game is much more packed with content than it was a year ago and the NGE is the best thing that's ever happened to Star Wars galaxies. Just try the tutorial, it begins with being rescued by Han Solo and Chewie (they both have voice overs :P). You will also notice that grinding is now quest based! It's wonderful! Star Wars galaxies is better, much more immersive than ever and is far much more than killing butterflies(?) - I have never had the need to kill one single butterfly in my 1,3 year long subscription time) and themeparks.
ahh, I think this is sounding the death knell, when they start giving away stuff that you used to have to pay for, they are on the ropes
HaHa!
I picked it up for the first time right after release and found it not to my liking. Three months later I remember describing to my friends about my Star Wars MMo experiance and all i could remember was killing BUTTERFLIES and DANCING WOOKIES.
your mmo experiance will differ. That was mine
I find it degrading to see the original characters of the star wars movies standing there like puppets saying continuously "you should get on the falcon now, kid. the station is gonna blow" not to mention it destroys a lot of people's star wars feeling.
I'm still on swg and waiting to see the result but if it stay's like it is now, it will be my last days.
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Carpe Diem
Greetz
MisterT
they´re giving those things to buy players,´cause till now,90% of the player base hates NGE.
If i wanted a FPS i would buy BF2.
*Where* exactly did you get that statistic..? Have you even read the feedback threads? I suggest you do so before picking the statistic *you* would have out of your head... Also, did you beta test the CU? Flamers and griefers everywhere. Now on TC everyone's at least playing the NGE, no one's spewing obsceneties at SOE and all the people I've talked to there are enjoying it so far. And there's ALOT of players testing on the same servers.
[EDIT:] http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=npe_discussion&message.id=3398&view=by_date_ascending&page=1
Added a link to the "first impressions thread", couldn't find the "played for a couple of days-feedback thread"
(BTW, the falcon bug has been fixed 
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[quote]Originally posted by Sarvan
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Originally posted by azracs
90% of the player base hates NGE.
*Where* exactly did you get that statistic..? Have you even read the feedback threads? I suggest you do so before picking the statistic *you* would have out of your head... Also, did you beta test the CU? Flamers and griefers everywhere. Now on TC everyone's at least playing the NGE, no one's spewing obsceneties at SOE and all the people I've talked to there are enjoying it so far. And there's ALOT of players testing on the same servers.
[EDIT:] [url=http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=npe_discussion&message.id=3398&view=by_date_ascending&page=1]
Added a link to the "first impressions thread", couldn't find the "played for a couple of days-feedback thread"
1) Just to remind you it's NGE not CU.
2) you can't flame with a console, unless you take a keyboard.
3) i played on TC and i'm not emerged nor impressed by it. This isn't a mmorpg any more, FPS is a better word.
- Didn't see crafters on TC, did you?
4) Have you walked on life server Bria lately?? it is desserted.
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Carpe Diem
Greetz
MisterT
1. Yes, I know, why are you telling me that? I'm comparing the two with one another, trying to show that people are much more positive now than they were when CU was released.
2. Console users aren't beta testing currently - console beta isn't out yet as far as I know.
3. The same mechanics are there, now it's just slightly more challanging as you have to aim for yourself. No more drinking coffe and talking on the phone while fighting. The previous system was too slow and easy... I liked it, but still it tends to get alot more boring than the NGE. And yes, I did see crafters and at least they weren't flaming. I tried it myself and at they haven't made the prof worse. It was as least as fun as before and I enjoyed it. But that's me.
4. Yes, I have, and you're completely wrong as it's marked as "heavy" when I checked. I suspect you might be playing on bria on the wrong time of the day. And if you ever feel that yur server is abit deserted, keep in mind that the Test Servers are marked as extremely heavy or even full. ALOT of people are testing it instead of playing on the live servers.
Sarvan i wont quote the post to reply.
Have you read: I'm old, i'm female and i don't fit the player profile?
Have you read: open letter to SOE? all 136 and more pages?
Have you read: Julio Torres letter? It start nice but ends up in dislike posts?
They are all about people disliking NGE.
They may perhaps not be testing it on TC, they surely are testing it.
This NGE is for PS3, you know it and i know it.
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The same mechanics are there, now it's just slightly more challanging as you have to aim for yourself. No more drinking coffe and talking on the phone while fighting. The previous system was too slow and easy... I liked it, but still it tends to get alot more boring than the NGE.
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True, the previous system was slow. Wrong, Pre-CU system is/was what NGE is today only without lock-on.
This system is unplayable if you have a high ping.
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And yes, I did see crafters and at least they weren't flaming. I tried it myself and at they haven't made the prof worse. It was as least as fun as before and I enjoyed it. But that's me.
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True they haven't made the profession worse but what is the use for a Trader munition?
The only crafting profession that might be of any use is Trader Domestic, if food isn't nerfed.
All other professions are absolute or doesn't bring in enough credits to consider taking them.
This is only the second stage of changes. The last stage will remove player houses and trader!
Its not because SOE puts heavy it is in fact heavy! Walk around Bria which was the heaviest server of them all and see for youreself.
1) TC is not a life server with the same capacity.
2) They put full or loading to restrict players.
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Carpe Diem
Greetz
MisterT
What do you mean with "I'm female"? I don't think the gender should restrict your playing capabilites that much, if at all. If you mean that you're slow by being old, I'm sorry to hear that.
I have read the letter. Not all of the answers of course, but the first post. And I'm not saying that there are no players that dislike the NGE, I'm trying to show that it's far from 90% of the community that dislikes it. The open letter, sure. But then, I could also ask you; have you read the feedback threads?
I have read one or two letters from Julio but I haven't seen any rudeness in them. Perhaps I've missed that letter, who knows.
"They may perhaps not be testing it on TC, they surely are testing it.
This NGE is for PS3, you know it and i know it."
I know it's made to also fit PS3, of course. Everybody knows it. But that is NOT my point. If they are testing it they are not testing it together with us PC users. Thus we cannot see if they are mad about the product or not as we're not playing with them (as an answer to your previous "it's difficult to flame on a PS-post"). And then, why would PS users flame the product if they dislike it? They haven't seen the previous version.
"True, the previous system was slow. Wrong, Pre-CU system is/was what NGE is today only without lock-on.
This system is unplayable if you have a high ping."
I'm not talking about the Pre-CU system, and once again; I'm comparing the CU with the NGE. The ping problem was as least as troublesome pre-NGE. Combat lag was horrible, not to mention heal lag.
"True they haven't made the profession worse but what is the use for a Trader munition?
The only crafting profession that might be of any use is Trader Domestic, if food isn't nerfed.
All other professions are absolute or doesn't bring in enough credits to consider taking them."
I don't know much about crafting, I've tried it briefly both pre-NGE and post. If what you say is true, then I guess that sucks. Let's hope they fix that in some way.
"This is only the second stage of changes. The last stage will remove player houses and trader!"
Now why exactly would they do that? They'd loose ALOT of players and money.
"Its not because SOE puts heavy it is in fact heavy! Walk around Bria which was the heaviest server of them all and see for youreself.
1) TC is not a life server with the same capacity.
2) They put full or loading to restrict players."
I HAVE walked around Bria which IS one of the heaviest servers of them all. I told you. The place is swarming with people! And how would you know that SOE puts up this marker? Early in the morning my server is marked as light. At night its marked as medium. If SOE would change it to make it look good, why wouldn't they change it so that its marked medium in the morning?
I doubt it, they want players to test their product. If players are not able to test, they can go on being grumpy without knowing how good the NGE really is. And I tried on of the extremely heavy servers and that was deffinately not lying - players everywhere!
they sold a million subscriptions. they won't say how many are still active. but you get the idea when they start offering multiple characters per galaxie/account. this is another step toward the end of this game. it started with the combat upgrade, got worse with the "jedi publishes" . was gasping for life at the refund offer for this latest crap expansion, you could hear the death rattle when they let ANYONE become a jedi and now are pulling dirt into the hole they are in.
I predict a console version within six months.
nice case study in how to kill a succesful game. if there is justice in the world the mangers and dev team will spend teh rest of thier lives over a deep fat frier for killing offf what used to be the best game in mmorpg-land.
What I find the most funny is the promise of 2nd character slots (coming soon SOE says).
Has the community learned nothing from SOE in the past ? How many other promises have they broken ?
Are the players so desparate for anything positive to cling to that they'll believe this shi_ ?
They wont ever add a 2nd slot. The only reason they told you that is to keep you fools paying for a little longer. Then the console edition will come out and SOE may or may not post it wont happen. I doubt they'll bother though. Look at how many posts where they mention the FRS being worked on and looked at by Lucas himself...TOTAL BS. The NGE was already months into being developed so why would they lie.....MONEY.
Shall I remind you all of...
1. smuggler revamp
2. ranger revamp
3. FRS revamp
4. working on lightsaber speed bug
5. working on pearl drops
6. planetary loot revamp (from long time ago)
I could go on for pages with the bullshi_ lies SOE pukes on you. And yet I see players on their forums still when it should be none.
Sometimes I think SOE players are suffering from battered wife syndrome and cant brind themselves to leave no matter how bad SOE beats them
"They wont ever add a 2nd slot." That's impossible to abort now, they'll be given within one or two days now.
1. Has come with the NGE.
2. Has come with the NGE (althought it's been transformed into the spy profession).
3. Dunno anything about that. SOE's main target now seems to be atmospheric flight, which has been said on several conventions. But yeah, don't get your hopes up
4. Has been fixed with the NGE.
5. Dunno about that, haven't tried it since the NGE hit live.
6. Has come with the NGE.
Impossible to abort? You REALLY are denying the track record with the development team face if you can say that with a straight.
FRS = Force Ranking System.
I would HARDLY say lightsabers have been fixed with the NGE, try again. Right now people that have invested ALOT of money and time into very special sabers have found them nerfed down well below trash lightsabers new jedi have made a week ago.
And pearl drops are the least of the issues with mobs right now. From what I understand crystal drops aren't even happening. That goes for both 5 and 6 of your responses.
Ya, you can consider this a smuggler and ranger revamp. If you want to ignore the fact that right to the deadline they were lieing their asses off to the community about how it was gonna happen and that RANGERS were really going to get to be rangers now and that smugglers have been waiting years for something they will never get now.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
Impossible to abort? You REALLY are denying the track record with the development team face if you can say that with a straight.
FRS = Force Ranking System.
I would HARDLY say lightsabers have been fixed with the NGE, try again. Right now people that have invested ALOT of money and time into very special sabers have found them nerfed down well below trash lightsabers new jedi have made a week ago.
And pearl drops are the least of the issues with mobs right now. From what I understand crystal drops aren't even happening. That goes for both 5 and 6 of your responses.
Ya, you can consider this a smuggler and ranger revamp. If you want to ignore the fact that right to the deadline they were lieing their asses off to the community about how it was gonna happen and that RANGERS were really going to get to be rangers now and that smugglers have been waiting years for something they will never get now.
"Impossible to abort? You REALLY are denying the track record with the development team face if you can say that with a straight."
Adding extra slots is not a hard thing to do and it's only a matter of a few days now... And aborting something like that... something that will effect every single player in a negative way! It would result in flames and anger from every single person playing star wars galaxies right now. "It's SOE", but they'er not THAT stupid.
"FRS = Force Ranking System." I know that, I'm a pre-NGE Jedi myself. But I don't know anything about it, and by that I mean I don't know what's up with the FRS atm.
"I would HARDLY say lightsabers have been fixed with the NGE, try again. Right now people that have invested ALOT of money and time into very special sabers have found them nerfed down well below trash lightsabers new jedi have made a week ago."
They're not "trash" sabers in the NGE. Sure, they do a little less damage, but you fight 4 times faster.
"And pearl drops are the least of the issues with mobs right now. From what I understand crystal drops aren't even happening."
Crystal and pearl drops are happening. They're also rewards that you get through your Jedi skill progress.
"Ya, you can consider this a smuggler and ranger revamp. If you want to ignore the fact that right to the deadline they were lieing their asses off to the community about how it was gonna happen and that RANGERS were really going to get to be rangers now and that smugglers have been waiting years for something they will never get now."
Yeah, of course that sucks but they still count as revamps (and IMO the changes to the profs are very entertaining). Let's hope they add more to it or make it even more the way players want it. Only one day since NGE went live has passed, there's still much to happen.
And the dev team has proven time and time again no matter how trivial the task they will somehow not get too it and it will be a big deal to fix. You cannot denythat with the petty bugs that have exhisted in the game since beta still being there, stuff that any team wanting to convery quality would have gotten a long long time ago just for the sake of having pride in their work.
I am sorry, I have seen screencaps and Jedi posting the ratio their sabres are now doing and they are WAY nerfed over alot of ones that were trash before the NGE and got converted to massive dps weapons. Don't try to trivialize it, its not a trivial matter.
And again, I wouldn't consider them taking so long to get it done that a redux of the entire game is what is counted as the revamp. Sorry, up til a few weeks ago they were just talking about the purposed new ranger changes which were obviously a rouse, and you aren't bothering to comment on that all I noticed. Just that they did the revamps with a complete retooling of the game.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
And the dev team has proven time and time again no matter how trivial the task they will somehow not get too it and it will be a big deal to fix. You cannot denythat with the petty bugs that have exhisted in the game since beta still being there, stuff that any team wanting to convery quality would have gotten a long long time ago just for the sake of having pride in their work.
I am sorry, I have seen screencaps and Jedi posting the ratio their sabres are now doing and they are WAY nerfed over alot of ones that were trash before the NGE and got converted to massive dps weapons. Don't try to trivialize it, its not a trivial matter.
And again, I wouldn't consider them taking so long to get it done that a redux of the entire game is what is counted as the revamp. Sorry, up til a few weeks ago they were just talking about the purposed new ranger changes which were obviously a rouse, and you aren't bothering to comment on that all I noticed. Just that they did the revamps with a complete retooling of the game.
" Sorry, up til a few weeks ago they were just talking about the purposed new ranger changes which were obviously a rouse, and you aren't bothering to comment on that all I noticed. Just that they did the revamps with a complete retooling of the game."
(As can I point out that you didn't care to comment what I wrote about the pearls and crystals.) Yes, I *did* comment on that; "that sucks". But my point is that even though they haven't given entirely what some of the players asked for (or what they've promised), I'm not really concerned as the stuff we got instead I found just as fun.
I recommend that you try the 10 days trial aviable for download now at http://starwarsgalaxies.station.sony.com/ as you seem unsure of my answers... try it out for yourself and see what does or does not work
I didn't comment on pearls and crystals because I never commented on pearls to begin with. And crystals do have problems, its a reported bug by more then a few people that crystals are not dropping from alot of mobs that used too.
You say they are dropping but you didn't say hardly anything else then that, just like you said lightsabers are just *alittle* weak when I see ALOT of jedi showing me alot of data on the official forums to say its more then a small problem. So if I say its alot your going to say its alittle, so why bother with the crystals?
Oh and lets get one thing straight. I have been on the Station All Access pass for about 6 months now. I don't need to do any trial, I tested the NGE on test center WHEN I could actually log into the thing as I have stated in the SWG forum here several times before. You however dont' seem very consistent with the actual current state of the game. I am not confused on anything other then where you are coming up with your glass roses to bypass all the issues and find a game worth a monthly fee at this point.
If it wasn't for the fact that I will not give up my EQ II sub, nor my 4 extra character slots for All Access Pass I would have dropped my sub to SWG when ToOW was announced.
And out of all I said, all you could come up with was I didn't comment on crystals? And then you continue to try to downplay the playerbase's outcry's for things like several revamps, the fact that the dev's competely and intentionally lied about the ranger revamp, and that the NGE was even coming before the 11th hour.
Nice try though chief.
- Scaris
"What happened to you, Star Wars Galaxies? You used to look like Leia. Not quite gold bikini Leia (more like bad-British-accent-and-cinnamon-bun-hair Leia), but still Leia nonetheless. Now you look like Chewbacca." - Computer Gaming World
"I didn't comment on pearls and crystals because I never commented on pearls to begin with. And crystals do have problems, its a reported bug by more then a few people that crystals are not dropping from alot of mobs that used too."
Yes you did actually, I answered but got no reply on that, thus my example on *one* of the things you chose not to comment on.
"You say they are dropping but you didn't say hardly anything else then that, just like you said lightsabers are just *alittle* weak when I see ALOT of jedi showing me alot of data on the official forums to say its more then a small problem. So if I say its alot your going to say its alittle, so why bother with the crystals?"
What else do you expect me to say..? I'm not trying to prove you wrong, I'm telling you what *I* have experienced. I still don't think this is a problem, as (again) you now attack your enemy 4 times faster, while the NPCs seems to attack with the same speed as pre NGE (if not slower). However, I haven't read any threads containing the data you mention, I should probably read it before I'm completely sure. Perhaps you can hand me a link? Would be an interesting read.
"Oh and lets get one thing straight. I have been on the Station All Access pass for about 6 months now. I don't need to do any trial, I tested the NGE on test center WHEN I could actually log into the thing as I have stated in the SWG forum here several times before. You however dont' seem very consistent with the actual current state of the game. I am not confused on anything other then where you are coming up with your glass roses to bypass all the issues and find a game worth a monthly fee at this point."
These "glass roses" as you call them... why would I come up with these? If I would hate the product as much as you obviously do I would be posting negative stuff instead. I'm posting my opinions about the game and the latest publish. I like it, it's more immersive, more exciting and quest based grind simply rocks.
"And out of all I said, all you could come up with was I didn't comment on crystals? And then you continue to try to downplay the playerbase's outcry's for things like several revamps, the fact that the dev's competely and intentionally lied about the ranger revamp, and that the NGE was even coming before the 11th hour. "
You did exactly the same thing when telling me I didn't comment on your text about the players being lied to about revamps by the devs, which again, I DID comment on. I agreed (which I bet anyone would) that it was shite of the DEVs to lie about that. BUT (I repeat) it doesn't concern me much because *I find* the stuff we got instead really entertaining. I'm not trying to downplay anything, I'm just simply showing you my opinion. Stop sounding like this is some kind of competition - I wanted to disguss and give my feedback, but you just seem to want to pick a fight with someone. I pretty much stopped posting on any constructive issues due to how stupidly aggressive people get.