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@Mark: We need some questions answered before the Kickstarter.

dynamicipftwdynamicipftw Member UncommonPosts: 206

1) Will there be collision detection? (hottest topic on here and on other forums)

2) Will there be pulls/knockbacks/leaps etc? If yes will they give immunity or can you be chain pulled?

3) /stick, /face, /follow. Will they work on enemies?

4) Movement system: DAoC-like (acceleration/deceleration) or modern (precise)?

5) Permastealth: y / n / tbd ?

6) Group size?

That's all I can think of right now . We need answers to end some of those flamewars :)

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  • TuktzTuktz Member Posts: 299

    Lol good luck with ththat they prolly haven't decided on most of that yet

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  • meddyckmeddyck Member UncommonPosts: 1,282
    Those are the things you want to know? I'd rather know what engine they are using, how many classes will be in each realm, how exactly will progression work, etc.

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  • tokeshtokesh Member Posts: 35
    You seriously posted this on reddit and mmorpg.com?
  • OdamanOdaman Member UncommonPosts: 195

    Well... I can answer two for you right now. Stealth=TBD, he doesn't know if it'll even be in game much less permanent. CD=TBD as well considering they don't even know what engine they're going to use yet.

    The rest, while valid questions... I seriously doubt you get and answer to. 

  • dynamicipftwdynamicipftw Member UncommonPosts: 206
    Originally posted by tokesh
    You seriously posted this on reddit and mmorpg.com?

    Yeah it was downvoted and hidden on reddit. I guess I have some haters.

  • dynamicipftwdynamicipftw Member UncommonPosts: 206
    Originally posted by Odaman

    Well... I can answer two for you right now. Stealth=TBD, he doesn't know if it'll even be in game much less permanent. CD=TBD as well considering they don't even know what engine they're going to use yet.

    The rest, while valid questions... I seriously doubt you get and answer to. 

    He hasn't said anything about CD.

  • dynamicipftwdynamicipftw Member UncommonPosts: 206
    Originally posted by meddyck
    Those are the things you want to know? I'd rather know what engine they are using, how many classes will be in each realm, how exactly will progression work, etc.

    Feel free to add more questions to the thread. The ones I asked are the most discussed in the last weeks (IMO).

  • OdamanOdaman Member UncommonPosts: 195
    Originally posted by dynamicipftw
    Originally posted by Odaman

    Well... I can answer two for you right now. Stealth=TBD, he doesn't know if it'll even be in game much less permanent. CD=TBD as well considering they don't even know what engine they're going to use yet.

    The rest, while valid questions... I seriously doubt you get and answer to. 

    He hasn't said anything about CD.

    You're right, he could say no right now. My point was he can't say yes without knowing what engine he'll be running.... well he could, but that might come back to haunt him later.

  • BowbowDAoCBowbowDAoC Member UncommonPosts: 472

    if you ask each person what are the key elements they want answer for before kickstarter, we'd have 10,000 questions, since everyone has different preferences.

    So all i'll say here is this.

    CU got my vote already, because MJ is leading the team, and the only 2 mmos that i really enjoyed were DAoC and much lower, WAR (WAR coulda been different without EA and GW behind i'm pretty sure)

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  • FromHellFromHell Member Posts: 1,311
    Originally posted by Tumblebutz
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    anyway, for 25 bucks the basic game will most likely cost ( like most KS games), I don't ask any questions

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  • dynamicipftwdynamicipftw Member UncommonPosts: 206
    Originally posted by Odaman
    Originally posted by dynamicipftw
    Originally posted by Odaman

    Well... I can answer two for you right now. Stealth=TBD, he doesn't know if it'll even be in game much less permanent. CD=TBD as well considering they don't even know what engine they're going to use yet.

    The rest, while valid questions... I seriously doubt you get and answer to. 

    He hasn't said anything about CD.

    He has said he doesn't know what engine they'll use. So I don't see how they could make a decision about that before even deciding on the engine. He might have an idea of what he wants to do, but it won't be a definitive yes or no.

    If they don't want CD the engine is irrelevant. 

  • WightyWighty Member UncommonPosts: 699

    He doesn't owe anyone any answers... His KS will be overwhelmingly successful and I bet only a small fraction of the KS support will come from the people in the website.

     

    Really stop with all these "demand" threads... (I am speaking generally) it's commical what people are expecting of this game... DAoC vanilla was probably the single greatest MMO ever... put your faith in the man and I am sure he and his team will come through... Too many armchair developers are going from constructive to destructive.

     

     

    What are your other Hobbies?

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  • dynamicipftwdynamicipftw Member UncommonPosts: 206

    Whats up with all the personal attacks? Is it forbidden to ask questions?

    These are the most discussed topics on this forum and I think most people would like to know Mark's thoughts.

  • RaagnarzRaagnarz Member RarePosts: 647
    Originally posted by dynamicipftw

    1) Will there be collision detection? (hottest topic on here and on other forums)

    2) Will there be pulls/knockbacks/leaps etc? If yes will they give immunity or can you be chain pulled?

    3) /stick, /face, /follow. Will they work on enemies?

    4) Movement system: DAoC-like (acceleration/deceleration) or modern (precise)?

    5) Permastealth: y / n / tbd ?

    6) Group size?

    That's all I can think of right now . We need answers to end some of those flamewars :)

    Don't hold your breathe you're not going to get answers to most or all of those now. They are still determining the details. Mark has openly said in the case of stealth he looks forward to discussing it with his KS backers on the private boards. That means it is not set in stone whether it will be in the game or how it will be in the game if it is.

     

    The bottom line is you're asking things that are details not general design. The little details are the least of the things that need to be discussed at the moment. The big picture is what needs to be decided now not the minor details that can be much more easily implemented/tweaked once the big pieces of the puzzle to fall into place.

  • dynamicipftwdynamicipftw Member UncommonPosts: 206
    Originally posted by Raagnarz
    Originally posted by dynamicipftw

    1) Will there be collision detection? (hottest topic on here and on other forums)

    2) Will there be pulls/knockbacks/leaps etc? If yes will they give immunity or can you be chain pulled?

    3) /stick, /face, /follow. Will they work on enemies?

    4) Movement system: DAoC-like (acceleration/deceleration) or modern (precise)?

    5) Permastealth: y / n / tbd ?

    6) Group size?

    That's all I can think of right now . We need answers to end some of those flamewars :)

    Don't hold your breathe you're not going to get answers to most or all of those now. They are still determining the details. Mark has openly said in the case of stealth he looks forward to discussing it with his KS backers on the private boards. That means it is not set in stone whether it will be in the game or how it will be in the game if it is.

     

    The bottom line is you're asking things that are details not general design. The little details are the least of the things that need to be discussed at the moment. The big picture is what needs to be decided now not the minor details that can be much more easily implemented/tweaked once the big pieces of the puzzle to fall into place.

    Yeah there is a good chance that all are TBD atm. But if 1 or more aren't it would be great to know. It never hurts to ask.

  • YizleYizle Member Posts: 517
    Originally posted by dynamicipftw

    Whats up with all the personal attacks? Is it forbidden to ask questions?

    These are the most discussed topics on this forum and I think most people would like to know Mark's thoughts.

    Maybe it is your wording. Your sense of entitlement that you are owed these answers. Look at your title.

    You are not owed anything. You do not have to have these answers. You want the answers.

     

    And from most of the questions you have I doubt there is even an answer yet.

  • dynamicipftwdynamicipftw Member UncommonPosts: 206
    Originally posted by Yizle
    Originally posted by dynamicipftw

    Whats up with all the personal attacks? Is it forbidden to ask questions?

    These are the most discussed topics on this forum and I think most people would like to know Mark's thoughts.

    Maybe it is your wording. Your sense of entitlement that you are owed these answers. Look at your title.

    You are not owed anything. You do not have to have these answers. You want the answers.

     

    And from most of the questions you have I doubt there is even an answer yet.

    What the hell? What entitlement? Mark is asking us to invest in CU, I think it's 100% fair to ask questions. 

  • sweetdigssweetdigs Member Posts: 196

    Not that it matters to Mark, but I certainly don't need answers to those questions.  I have enough information with Mark's track record and the founding principles, as well as the information I've gleaned from his posts and activity on these forums.  I'm already in for the kickstarter.

    Much like with Roberts Space Industries and their upcoming space sim - I'm banking on the reputation of those involved in the project. 

    These folks know that their reputations are their currency when it comes to crowdfunding.  They won't squander it.

  • SpeelySpeely Member CommonPosts: 861
    I think that

    A) Some of these questions will be answered by the actual Kickstarter page itself, and

    B) Those that aren't will be topics of discussion between CSE and the backers and resolved thusly.
  • Niix_OzekNiix_Ozek Member Posts: 397

    I personally would like those questions answered as well so I don't get what all the anger is about.

    I do understand you will never get those answers until its funded, else he will start alienating segregations of his backers and at this time he really can't afford to do that, and he can never come out and say that.

    I honestly think he and his team have answers for those questions for the most part, at least how he wants to start implimentation though some may change over testing etc. But again he will never come out and tell us yet. Even after its funded ( assuming ) and he gets coding etc. he will have to be very gentle about how he explains why he chooses to go a certain direction on each issue as to not anger potential players, but I think he will do fine with this, he's a pretty smart guy right?

    In closing, theres nothing wrong asking these questions, but theres no way you will get an answer.

     

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  • SpeelySpeely Member CommonPosts: 861
    Kickstarted projects generally outline things like this once they actually launch the kickstarter. Most kickstarters don't give ANY info beforehand. We are lucky to know what we know.

    Why ask MJ to amswer all these questions before he's even heard what people who have actually funded it want?

    Again, wait for the Kickstarter. I am pretty sure it will answer some of these questions.
  • BrohimeBrohime Member Posts: 34

    There is such things as stupid questions. (these may not be stupid but the timing of the questions isn't so great)

    Like raising your hand and asking a teacher an  "off the wall" question

    It just makes it awkward for everyone

    Mark patrols these boards, no need to call him out or @mark him 

     

  • Plastic-MetalPlastic-Metal Member Posts: 405

    Like a lot of people in this thread have said, I'm satisified with Mark's reputation and faith in the team he put together.

    The OP should have posted with the topic, "@Mark: I need some questions answered before the Kickstarter"

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  • TSChzbarnaTSChzbarna Member UncommonPosts: 14
    Originally posted by dynamicipftw

    Whats up with all the personal attacks? Is it forbidden to ask questions?

    These are the most discussed topics on this forum and I think I would like to know Mark's thoughts.

    Edited for what I believe is the real motive behind this list of questions.

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