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Advice for people considering Founders packs
Abloec
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in Neverwinter
Hold off on buying a founders, currently the Astral Diamonds that you get through the founders is worth.... well shit. You can get Astral Diamonds through their prayer every hour, events, and selling on the AH. Once the game releases if it stays as it is the AD market will be flooded with AD.
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Somewhat true. You get rough astral diamonds through prayer, which have to be converted to Astral Diamonds at unknown ratio.
But still, main appeal of Founders package was/is:
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Get the guardian pack dude. I did and it's the shit.
LOL as a person with not one but 2 lifetime subs from cryptic game i cna honestly say iv learned my lesson.
i have no intention of paying for a founders pack heck im pretty sure my last sub helped pay for the devlepment of this game since ya know thats all cryptic dose is make cash grab laucnh cash grab leave very little team to maintain it and start working on next cash grab
F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used to
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I believe this is a knee jerk reaction from last beta weekend. The beta weekend prior was different with AD requirements. If you are basing this off the last weekend, then I believe you are wrong since you needed AD to purchase ID scrolls since the drops were not sufficient to provide you enough to identify all the gear you find and want to sell on the AH for more AD. Im sure it will change for the next beta weekend. In other words, too soon to tell. As always the value will depend on the purchaser.
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I did the Guardian Pack personally and have no regrets. I wouldn't pay the $200, I agree there. Especially since the "Drow" proper will be available for free, 60-days after release.
However the other "perks" you get from Guardian, including the mount, make it very worthwhile imo. For me I look at the initial AD as another level booster, since that large chunk up front lets you deck out your chosen henchmen fast and as such increases your ability to max out quicker/faster.
So it's a give and take, but I don't see anything as being "bad" about the $60 pack.
same i got the $60 one.. wouldn't pay for the $200 one though.. honestly can't think of any game I'd put that sort of money down on.. i'm not a big collectors edition person though...
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
I actually barely played BW2, I am not bashing, I am discussing my opinion. With the current setup of AD it brings very little value to the founders packs. 750k which is what you get in the 200 dollar founders can be achieved in game in a month, that is not even taking into account AH sales.
750k AD is worth less than 100 dollars, they are stating the heroes founder pack is worth 549 dollars. I am sorry but I do not see 549 dollars of worth when 750k ad is probably worth less than 50 bucks. All I am saying is be cautious of buying founders, unless you can see the pack being worth it without AD being in the picture hold off. The AD market they have currently is in my opinion going to be extremely unstable.
i'am very curious how they came up with those numbers they gave me a chuckle:)
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
No in all honesty I believe the 60 dollar one is probably the best founders pack, my main reason for this post is because until we can get some sort of confirmation that AD is how its going to be or that they are still refining it than be wary. I bought the 200 dollar version, I am seriously considering getting a refund because of how the value of AD is dropping. Currently me personally I would put the value of the Heroes founder pack at 150 bucks at most, which to me I find rather disgraceful that a company would blatently put that huge of an inflated value on it.
Like others have said I understand supporting a developer, I did it with PoE and Warframe. I have no regrets with those 2 games, I felt that the value of what I invested in was worth it. For Neverwinter currently I cannot, and I do feel I will regret it.
if you are at all interested in making your own content the foundry system is well worth paying for.. i wouldn't say i'd put down $200 though....but $60 for sure.. although that spider mount looks pretty badass:P..
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
I am all for designing content but I cannot really put a value on being able to use the foundry immediately when all you need to do is get level 15 which will take a few hours if they do not increase the leveling timeframe.
True I meant more for the fact you can spend thousands of hours if you wanted creating content.. even though you choose to pay for it and others get it free I wouldn't feel like I'm waisting my money to support a game I could possibly put thousands of hours into.. put again I put money into these packs to support the company anything they give me is just a perk... but again I just went for the $60 not the $200
I angered the clerk in a clothing shop today. She asked me what size I was and I said actual, because I am not to scale. I like vending machines 'cause snacks are better when they fall. If I buy a candy bar at a store, oftentimes, I will drop it... so that it achieves its maximum flavor potential. --Mitch Hedberg
Yea I can understand that, I am just the type of person that doesnt just let the gameplay reflect on the game but how the developers bring the game to the consumers.
What kind of reward foes the game give for having people run through your creations? Anything for your character, or even ADs?
Part of me says that if I am creating content for them to help keep folks in their game for longer the least they can do is throw me a bit of virtual curency as a thank you.
People can donate AD to you, Cryptic/PWE don't give you anything.
Well if it's anything like STO the cap for conversion will be low. In STO I can only convert 8,000 a day. To give an idea of how low that is. A ship with 3 forward and 3 aft would take around two weeks to outfit with just weapons. Antiproton set from Dilith store being about 22,000ish per Beam array. Without using any other means but the Ditlith store.
So sure you could macro your rough AD's everyday, but it's possible that if the conversion cap is set low. You'd have more rough then refined. Or could just be STO problem as I always have more rough then refined by just doing in-game stuff.
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I would pay $200 for a game that was harder like old school RPGs. I find it rather silly that these 'Founder's Packs' make the game easier by giving you perks like increased exp gain and items that would take a lot of in-game currency to obtain. Its like I want to support the developers but I DO NOT WANT to make the game easier. Am I the only one who wants a game to be hard with challenges to overcome? I can't be the only one who doesn't want free shit handed to me just because I gave them money. I think this F2P trend is going to kill gaming, so I don't buy anything in order to keep the game challenging but then I am not contributing to the funding of the project.
I want to give them $200 and get access to the Hardcore server, with one life to live and 10x slower leveling speed, etc.
Nothing that we know of really gives you a bonus, just because they give the option to get xp boosts doesn't mean you have to get em. I agree with you that games are becoming stupidly easy now a days but hopefully they keep to their word that they will design their end game where they cant beat it.
Ouch... really? Seems a bit tight considering that you are going to be helping them make real life money.
I wonder if their own adventure designers would work just for the chance of possible player donations.
Listen to the person that talks about the cryptic cash grab.
These companies have more money than you so why would you imagine it is your responsibility to "support" them by buying a founders pack when they launch a product ?
What MMORPGs need more than anything is an active pool of players who make the game world a place others want to spend time in. It wont matter what you spent on a founders pack if the game bombs and only the ignorant are going to be impressed by your character.
I can't think of any MMORPG I have played where the digital pre-purchase, collectors edition or any other incentives offered to people before a game launched were worth having, with the notable exception of early access to the game.
What I begrudge is not paying upfront for an MMORPG but this free to play trend where you have no idea what is a reasonable starting point within a new game.