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I'm a serial MMOer, I can never resist buying the next big mmo. I actually skipped Defiance (i was e
Numerous posters, some who were testers, tried to give warnings about this game. Me personally, for the first time ever, I didn't buy a new mmo that was coming out. I was so hyped for Defiance, but after getting into the game and testing it, It was the first time I actually was able to say no, i'm not going to give my money to this company so they can continue making crap games. And so I didn't buy it.
Only when customers stop giving in and buying new mmos just because they're new, regardless of how bad they are, will developers be forced to stop putting out games like this.
Some thought this game would be good "because it's trion!" ? Does nobody remember SWTOR? Bioware, the golden child of gamers everywhere, they are responsible for the massive budget major let down that is SWTOR.
Defiance was nowhere near ready for release, it's a shallow game and is going to bleed players very quickly, it won't even take days for people to suddenly realize that there is nothing more to this game than they saw in the beta weekends.
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Are you honestly giveing a review of the game you didn't buy or play in release?
Why do you even care if you have zero invested in the game?
Personally I am playing it and enjoying it for what it is. I'm staying away from PVP which is fine since there is plenty of PVE content to keep me happy for probably 50+ hours which more than justifies the purchase price of the game. Anything I get past that is gravy. If I wanted to PVP I have other FPS games that are designed just for that purpose so didn't really need anouther. However a FPS Massivily Co-op game is something that is missing from my collection currently so it wasn't to difficult a decision to purchase.
He's not giving a review at all. Doesn't say that anywhere in the title or his post. He's just letting us know that he's decided to show some restraint in purchasing a video game because he didn't feel he was getting value.
That's his opinion. I disagree with it but I absolutely defend his right to voice it.
I actually wish more people would do the same thing, stop pre-ordering to get a shiney "insert random crap item here". I wish people would stop buying games that include day 1 DLC.
Maybe we'd get better games if more people did this.
Bioware was responsible for the budget of SWTOR ? I guess you've never heard of EA ?
Two things kill someones credability when reviewing a game.
I've never played it as it is now and making up little factoids that just about everyone knows isn't true. You got both in 1 post.
I applaud you sir!
Company's will continue to churn out shallow, overly scripted, solo centric, media hyped mmos as long as ppl contuinue to give them money for it.
Im glad you have restraint, now if only other people were just as wise.
The way mmo's were: Community, Exploration, Character Development, Conquest.
The way mmo's are now : Cut-Scenes,Cut-Scenes, solo Questing, Cut-Scenes...
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I've played Defiance for long enough. You don't agree with my opinion, so that means it should not be said?
Yes, if people would resist temptation and stop buying rubbish games, perhaps we'd stop seeing the same old crap being pushed game after game.
The game is exactly the same as it was in Beta! Nothing has changed.
For 60 bucks and a nickle and diming cash shop with super inflated prices I had expected better from TRION!
Especially after RIFT.
It seems TRION has quickly catched up with EA on the Cash Grab bussiness model. /shrug
I already said it in another topic, but for example... I paid the same price for Skyrim, yet Skyrim completely dwarfs this game into oblivion... in World Size! In amount of Content! In storyline and mission quality! In character progression! In pretty much every way!
It's just sad.... and it won't even take long for the casual gamer to get bored with this game realy quick and see for what it really is.
Good for you.
I bought it without trying beta. Found out it is the best MMO I bought the last few years so far, since it is a MMO AND a shooter at the same time.
Don't forget the 20000 mods Skyrim also have to choose from, skyrim is one few games you get value for your money easy 300+ gameplay hours and with so many mods maybe closer to 500+ that with expansion for maybe 60 bucks.
The Witcher 3 next inline of value for money(hopefully)
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dunno just the mix of fps combat system and mmo makes it superior over all those tab targeting clonegames...i just can't play games ala GW 2 anymore as i just fall asleep with the boring combat systems they have. you basically fight 99% in such games and i want that to be engaging. got to love eve for being what it is where there is lots to do besides fighting *yay*
didn't had that much fun in a mmo in quite some time so i guess it's a matter of taste a lot :P
Game on Xbox console is a lot different to the beta. Different mutants, harder to kill, better animations, better sound - altogether quite a slick and polished game. People have to remember that this game is always going to be limited by the console hardware. They have released simultaneously on three major gaming platforms on top of which they have a TV show coming. Credit where credit is due. They have to work with the limitation of the lowest common denominator. If rumors are true and the likes of PS4 are going to be built more around PC architecture then perhaps in the future games won't be held back as much by console limitations with a multiple platform release (they just run the console game on low settings etc).
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My resistance to new MMOs is getting weaker, but I didn't even consider buying Defiance after I've tried beta.
I think it really lacks the quality (content and features) to be on par with either Shooter games or MMORPGs. Kudos to Trion for thinking out of the box, but it should have been done much, much better.
Anyway, I'm glad there are people who enjoy ithis game, so Trion gets at least some return on investment for trying something different.
The main game of GW2 felt incredibly solo to me. Playing alongside others isn not the same as playing with them.
I have no hate for Defiance, it actually quite appeals in a few ways, but something is putting me off... maybe it is the 'drop in group' aspect of it... It just dosen't work as a long term MMORPG mechanic for me.
As for the OP... I ask others how far do you trust new accounts on a forum set up to criticise a game at it's launch? Do you take it as gospel?
Saying that, has this game got a trial going? In the modern era of free to access games anything charging for a client, unless you have massive brand hype, needs to remove the barrier to see what the game is about. people would also be able to make their own opinions rather then being potentiolly misled by random anonymous posters on forums.
Congratulations. Maybe you will soon look behind the curtain and how games are all designed very, very similarly. If you do, you lose interest in gaming pretty fast. You will even faster decide what games you want to play and what not. No offense, but if you say you have bought all recent MMOs, that this is a clear indicator for me, that you can not see behind things (yet).
Just try to analyze a game for once, instead of mindlessly consuming it until you feel the usual "unconscious" feeling of /meh or boredom.
Btw boredom, boredom is a sign that your mind is full and still wants more. Basicly your mind is obese at that moment, but still wants the chemical reaction that come with food. Boredom is so to speak a dis-ease, a sickness.
I like Trion's dedication to their users, but that doesn't mean when I see a game made or published by them, I want to buy it. I don't think they're nearly the best devs out there...
But still, maybe you'll reconsider down the road. Rift's prices on Steam didn't stay high for very long, so I expect Defiance will be super cheap by Summer.
So you're saying you're responsible for buying any half arsed piece of shit in the past, but now you've turned over a new leaf?
I'm sure i speak for everyone in saying thanks for sharing that.
Personally however, i've always reframed from buying half arsed, disney fests myself, but I do like a good romp with a gun, so i bought it.
Only thing I can think of is that they were low on money. They put a lot into the RIFT exapansion that didn't do that well (not because it's not solid, because it's the same old same). Wasted development time and money on the scraped End of Nations. EoN was different, but very arcadish and not that good.
I think all of this lead them to Defiance. 3rd mmo in 2 1/2 years. That's enough to spread any company thin.
You just mocked me for buying half arsed games in the past, then admitted that you've just gone bought one yourself. Good job. Games don't get much more half arsed than Defiance, this game was rushed out way before it was ready, with many features dropped to meet the deadline.
cm01, please delete your troll account and do something more meaningfull.
I got two words for ya...Shadow Wars...or is that one word...idk. I haven't had this much fun since slice bread...wait a second, that's not right either...I just got done playing an all nighter lol. Gotta love it when vacation time falls when a game comes out. Defiance is the first game I've pre-ordered since Rift.
Before that I only ever pre-ordered Lotro, swtor and WoW. I liked them all...yes, even swtor. Unlike most people, I like to take my time with MMOs, and if you play swtor slowly and not get in a rush, it's actually quite good. I still play WoW, Rift, Lotro, and swtor. I'm thinking of finally dropping my WoW sub, since I don't have near enough time to play defiance along with all 4 of those, although lotro I don't play much, mainly just go in and RP hehe. I'm babbling again as usual lol.
Everyone is entitled to thier opinion, but at least make sure you got enough information to make an informed opinion. I know you haven't done PvP, since beta didn't have shadow wars. And anyone that says the game is too short, really hasn't played it. There's a million side missions. If you skip them, then complain about how short the game is, then that's your own fault lol. MMOs are always about the journey, never the destination...All the people who came over with WoW and newer titles don't get that I guess.
I miss the days when it took you a year to get to max level