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I guess Adventurine doesn't want my $15

stormseekazstormseekaz Member UncommonPosts: 168

I had played Darkfall at release for about 6 months or so, until the NA server opened, I couldn't transfer because I had so many regs to burn through before I did, I eventually got bored and quit before transfering to NA.

Wasn't really following Unholy Wars that closely.

I was pretty excited about it back in December when it was supposed to come out the first time, then it got delayed and I put it on the backburner.

I had heard bad things from beta testers, so just kind of gave up on the game.

But today I suddenly remembered.... oh I only have to pay the subscription fee since I already own the game!  Shit its worth 15 dollars to try it out.  Maybe I'll like the new DF.

Then to my dismay I learn the discount for DF veterans expired and was only for preorders.  Adventurine made my mind up for me.

I guess they don't want my $15.00.

I am not going to pay $40+ for the same game twice.  So I guess I'll get to try it when there is a free trial.

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  • SupportPlayerMMSupportPlayerMM Member Posts: 310
    So your current complaint is you didn't take the offer by 4/12 after months and months of the offer being on the table and now you're mad at them because you didn't put enough effort into the product to do this prior ? seems like a legit reason... I'm leaving to best buy right now to see if I can still get that 40' tv on black friday 299$ sale... they better do it or i'll make a thread saying guess they don't want my money.
  • kadepsysonkadepsyson Member UncommonPosts: 1,919

    To be fair, previous subscribers were supposed to get it free.  The game says it comes with an included free 30 days, so previous subscribers should have had a free first month as well.

     

    Of course, it's Aventurine, so they swindle out of people's money any way they can.  The right combination of wording and fanboyism is what keeps people from calling this bait and switch "reward" for the scam it is.

  • luvbooxluvboox Member Posts: 87
    That's a tough break. I hope they do a free trial soon so we can get lots of people to try it out- ideally after they've polished it some. 
  • kadepsysonkadepsyson Member UncommonPosts: 1,919
    Originally posted by luvboox
    That's a tough break. I hope they do a free trial soon so we can get lots of people to try it out- ideally after they've polished it some. 

    How many more years do they need to make a release quality game?  Or are we to wait for the next do-over Darkfall iteration?

     

    Five months of a sudden and unexpected beta that was announced on the previous day it was slated to be released should definitely be a tip that they're programming skills amount to running around the office screaming while their hair is on fire.

  • SupportPlayerMMSupportPlayerMM Member Posts: 310
    Originally posted by kadepsyson

    To be fair, previous subscribers were supposed to get it free.  The game says it comes with an included free 30 days, so previous subscribers should have had a free first month as well.

     

    Of course, it's Aventurine, so they swindle out of people's money any way they can.  The right combination of wording and fanboyism is what keeps people from calling this bait and switch "reward" for the scam it is.

    No clue what you're talking about with the swindling, to my understanding it was always "owned the game pay only the monthly  sub" show me a link to them saying everythings free including first 30 days, 

  • stormseekazstormseekaz Member UncommonPosts: 168
    Originally posted by SupportPlayerMM
    So your current complaint is you didn't take the offer by 4/12 after months and months of the offer being on the table and now you're mad at them because you didn't put enough effort into the product to do this prior ? seems like a legit reason... I'm leaving to best buy right now to see if I can still get that 40' tv on black friday 299$ sale... they better do it or i'll make a thread saying guess they don't want my money.

    Well if you payed $400 dollars for that TV and then they confiscated it from you, and upgraded the built in speakers on the TV, and are now selling it for $350, but you want it for $299, then yes I could see how your analogy works.

    You're leaving out the part where I already payed 40-50$ for the game the first time.

    Its the same game, its just an updated version.  No MMORPG has ever made you repurchase the game in order to just pay the monthly fee and log in.

    Specific examples:  Star Wars Galaxies, Final Fantasy XIV, Nexus TK,

    Expansions just cut off access to the new content.  You can still play the original game you own.

    Had Darkfall 1.0 kept the servers online and let owners of the game keep playing, this move would be acceptable, but they shut the old game down.

    And no, I am not mad.  I am just making a point that it is these kinds of decisions by a company that prevents it's game from having a large enough player base to stay alive.

  • SupportPlayerMMSupportPlayerMM Member Posts: 310
    Originally posted by stormseekaz
    Originally posted by SupportPlayerMM
    So your current complaint is you didn't take the offer by 4/12 after months and months of the offer being on the table and now you're mad at them because you didn't put enough effort into the product to do this prior ? seems like a legit reason... I'm leaving to best buy right now to see if I can still get that 40' tv on black friday 299$ sale... they better do it or i'll make a thread saying guess they don't want my money.

    blah blah blah

    in the ol' terms of service it gives them the right to cancel the product whenever they want... you said you played for 6 months? the game was live for years. DF is cancelled now theres Unholy Wars, different game, similar concepts, and unfortunately same engine. 

  • Konner920Konner920 Member UncommonPosts: 295
    Yeah I know how you feel. Pretty shitty of them to relaunch the game and charge people that previously bought it, to buy it again. even with a "discount" I wouldn't rebuy it.
  • SupportPlayerMMSupportPlayerMM Member Posts: 310
    Originally posted by Konner920
    Yeah I know how you feel. Pretty shitty of them to relaunch the game and charge people that previously bought it, to buy it again. even with a "discount" I wouldn't rebuy it.

    The discount was just you resubbing to the game the same you would of paid to replay the old game... 15 bucks...horrible arguement

  • RogueJDRogueJD Member UncommonPosts: 32
    Originally posted by kadepsyson
    Originally posted by luvboox
    That's a tough break. I hope they do a free trial soon so we can get lots of people to try it out- ideally after they've polished it some. 

    How many more years do they need to make a release quality game?  Or are we to wait for the next do-over Darkfall iteration?

     

    Five months of a sudden and unexpected beta that was announced on the previous day it was slated to be released should definitely be a tip that they're programming skills amount to running around the office screaming while their hair is on fire.

    Having read the OP, but skimmed over the other comments; you should be stopped.

     

    You're the least productive participant in this conversation, yet seemingly, the most vocal.

  • CaldrinCaldrin Member UncommonPosts: 4,505
    Originally posted by stormseekaz

    I had played Darkfall at release for about 6 months or so, until the NA server opened, I couldn't transfer because I had so many regs to burn through before I did, I eventually got bored and quit before transfering to NA.

    Wasn't really following Unholy Wars that closely.

    I was pretty excited about it back in December when it was supposed to come out the first time, then it got delayed and I put it on the backburner.

    I had heard bad things from beta testers, so just kind of gave up on the game.

    But today I suddenly remembered.... oh I only have to pay the subscription fee since I already own the game!  Shit its worth 15 dollars to try it out.  Maybe I'll like the new DF.

    Then to my dismay I learn the discount for DF veterans expired and was only for preorders.  Adventurine made my mind up for me.

    I guess they don't want my $15.00.

    I am not going to pay $40+ for the same game twice.  So I guess I'll get to try it when there is a free trial.

     

    Thats kind of your fault for not reading the promotion for the pre-order.. this have been known since nov..

    Oh and btw your not paying $40 for the same game you would actually be paying $40 for a very dumbed down version of Darkfall LOL

  • OnigodOnigod Member UncommonPosts: 756
    Originally posted by stormseekaz

    I had played Darkfall at release for about 6 months or so, until the NA server opened, I couldn't transfer because I had so many regs to burn through before I did, I eventually got bored and quit before transfering to NA.

    Wasn't really following Unholy Wars that closely.

    I was pretty excited about it back in December when it was supposed to come out the first time, then it got delayed and I put it on the backburner.

    I had heard bad things from beta testers, so just kind of gave up on the game.

    But today I suddenly remembered.... oh I only have to pay the subscription fee since I already own the game!  Shit its worth 15 dollars to try it out.  Maybe I'll like the new DF.

    Then to my dismay I learn the discount for DF veterans expired and was only for preorders.  Adventurine made my mind up for me.

    I guess they don't want my $15.00.

    I am not going to pay $40+ for the same game twice.  So I guess I'll get to try it when there is a free trial.

    Congrats..

     

    When the mac donnalds says: from Monday to Thursday buy 1 hamburger get 1 free will you ask for ur free hamburger on the friday after?  It said in the offer for how long it would count.  I dont see why you made this topic just so others can claim ur late? or because we want to know u wont try the game out?

     

    This post will obviousy get flagged since we obviously need 100 useless threads each minute.

  • Lazarus71Lazarus71 Member UncommonPosts: 1,081
    While I agree we all knew the promotion of 14.99 was only untill the 12 of this month it still does not change the fact that we already paid them once for the game. There is no logical reason for not keeping that deal up for original DF players untill launch and after for awhile. Seems to me they are actually losing themselves subs by doing it that way.

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  • taus01taus01 Member Posts: 1,352
    Originally posted by SupportPlayerMM
    Originally posted by Konner920
    Yeah I know how you feel. Pretty shitty of them to relaunch the game and charge people that previously bought it, to buy it again. even with a "discount" I wouldn't rebuy it.

    The discount was just you resubbing to the game the same you would of paid to replay the old game... 15 bucks...horrible arguement

    Would have or would've.

    "Give players systems and tools instead of rails and rules"

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  • Deerhunter71Deerhunter71 Member Posts: 527
    Originally posted by Lazarus71
    While I agree we all knew the promotion of 14.99 was only untill the 12 of this month it still does not change the fact that we already paid them once for the game. There is no logical reason for not keeping that deal up for original DF players untill launch and after for awhile. Seems to me they are actually losing themselves subs by doing it that way.

    Have to agree there, especially with all the performance issues and stuff confirmed in game since debug mode did not change change any of that.  Least they could have done with anyone wanting to put up with part 2 of the same stuff.

  • shadow9d9shadow9d9 Member UncommonPosts: 374
    Haha... you missed the preorder discount that lasted 5 months and you are complaining now?  Funny stuff!
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