Guardian Fighter Squishy?

gxgunny · May 2013

I played a trickster rouge in the second closed beta for this game and had no problems soloing mobs from the intro all the way up to level 5. However, I rolled a Guardian Fighter for the release of open beta because I was hoping that this would be more defense, less attack power,etc like a tank in most games. I found that I was using way more potions keeping my Guardian Fighter alive than I did with my rogue. This could be because of the higher dps of the trickster rogue, but I thought it would all equal out with the higher defense of the guardian fighter. I am going to keep playing the Guardian Fighter with the hope that the class will get tougher with higher level, new skills,changes to the game, me learning to play the class better. Does anyone else think the Guardian Fighter is too Squishy?

Sovrath · May 2013

Originally posted by gxgunny
I played a trickster rouge in the second closed beta for this game and had no problems soloing mobs from the intro all the way up to level 5. However, I rolled a Guardian Fighter for the release of open beta because I was hoping that this would be more defense, less attack power,etc like a tank in most games. I found that I was using way more potions keeping my Guardian Fighter alive than I did with my rogue. This could be because of the higher dps of the trickster rogue, but I thought it would all equal out with the higher defense of the guardian fighter. I am going to keep playing the Guardian Fighter with the hope that the class will get tougher with higher level, new skills,changes to the game, me learning to play the class better. Does anyone else think the Guardian Fighter is too Squishy?

not at all.

Are you blocking and moving?

gxgunny · May 2013

Yes, I was blocking, moving,etc. There was a lot of rubber banding at the time when I was playing. I seemed to have the most trouble with there was a mix of normal and ranged enemies. I will keep playing him, not giving up yet.

Anthur · May 2013

Yesterday I played a guardian fighter till lvl 9. Had no problems. The potions were enough and I even could spare some for later. Blocking is impotant and moving as already mentioned. Lag kills the game. Makes it unplayable. I also usually killed the weaker mobs (archers etc.) first and then the big ones. Helped to reduce damage. Only mob where I neede 2 potions was some guy named Kravok? Not sure about the name anymore.

Unfortunately snce then I had no luck logging in again. Either timeout to account server or a huge queue. Guess they want us make to buy a founders pack or something for priority log in. Whatever, I have patience.;)

purewitz · May 2013

Originally posted by Anthur
Yesterday I played a guardian fighter till lvl 9. Had no problems. The potions were enough and I even could spare some for later. Blocking is impotant and moving as already mentioned. Lag kills the game. Makes it unplayable. I also usually killed the weaker mobs (archers etc.) first and then the big ones. Helped to reduce damage. Only mob where I neede 2 potions was some guy named Kravok? Not sure about the name anymore.

Unfortunately snce then I had no luck logging in again. Either timeout to account server or a huge queue. Guess they want us make to buy a founders pack or something for priority log in. Whatever, I have patience.;)

Karzov LOL

red_cruiser · May 2013

In my experience, the squishiness of the guardian fighter is largely irrelevant since the cleric will be dealing with most of the agro.

birdycephon · May 2013

Hows your stats? It could have an impact, perhapse.

JeroKane · May 2013

I am getting closer towards level 30 now with my Guardian and have the Cleric companion.

I hardly use any potion at all anymore. I have like 40 health potions sitting in my inventoring... continue to grow.

Only during solo boss fights I might use a potion or two. But that's it really.

Next to stacking lots of defense, I am also stacking a lot of Power and Crit to improve the damage output.

Saxonblade · May 2013

I started a Guardian last night, I am up to level 12 and have not felt squishy at all. I know others have asked do you move block etc which are all key to playing this class, remember if you get swarmed blocking only works on the mobs in front so you may want to position yourself better. All in all I am having fun playing it, you might want to look at gear with def bonuses etc but I actually use more healing pots on my rogue.

Reizla · May 2013

Originally posted by gxgunny
I played a trickster rouge in the second closed beta for this game and had no problems soloing mobs from the intro all the way up to level 5. However, I rolled a Guardian Fighter for the release of open beta because I was hoping that this would be more defense, less attack power,etc like a tank in most games. I found that I was using way more potions keeping my Guardian Fighter alive than I did with my rogue. This could be because of the higher dps of the trickster rogue, but I thought it would all equal out with the higher defense of the guardian fighter. I am going to keep playing the Guardian Fighter with the hope that the class will get tougher with higher level, new skills,changes to the game, me learning to play the class better. Does anyone else think the Guardian Fighter is too Squishy?

I've fought a GF in the PvP arena (healer here, but I had the backup from a CW) and they're extremely hard to beat higher up in the levels. Don't know how they play in lower levels, but as said, later on you're a tank the way they're supposed to be.

dcoy68 · May 2013

Not very effective in PVP lower levels. In the 20s bracket rogues can stand toe to toe even coming into the fight at half health. By contrast my CW at least has a shot at killing the half health in a 1 on 1. I found that odd since early PVP reports stated GF was counter to TR and TR was there to eat up CW. But its still mid 20s on both so we'll see.

Reizla · May 2013

Originally posted by dcoy68
Not very effective in PVP lower levels. In the 20s bracket rogues can stand toe to toe even coming into the fight at half health. By contrast my CW at least has a shot at killing the half health in a 1 on 1. I found that odd since early PVP reports stated GF was counter to TR and TR was there to eat up CW. But its still mid 20s on both so we'll see.

15 minutes lvl 29 PvP movie I made (me being healer and 2nd best in general score at the end ). Might be worth to watch since there's also a GF there that's constantly giving us a pretty hard time...

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xzggpi_neverwinter-pvp-domination_videogames

Sovrath · May 2013

Originally posted by JeroKane
I am getting closer towards level 30 now with my Guardian and have the Cleric companion.

I hardly use any potion at all anymore. I have like 40 health potions sitting in my inventoring... continue to grow.

Only during solo boss fights I might use a potion or two. But that's it really.

Next to stacking lots of defense, I am also stacking a lot of Power and Crit to improve the damage output.

Yeah, my potions are pretty much just addign up.

I did use them in the cloak tower instnace which I "duoed" (soloed?) with my cleric companion. Gratned I was two levels above the level requirements but some of the fights took quite a while with some room for me to screw things up.

@op, also note, you can attack while blocking. I wouldn't "just" hold down shift and block and attack as your guardian bar will go down quickly.

Still, you can get some damage off while you block.

Shroom_Mage · May 2013

If you learn the timing of attacks (and compensate for lag), you can block nearly everything, especially once you learn your block attacks. As a guardian fighter, I almost never need any potions at all.

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