Originally posted by Sorrowho first off i smoke... second; has anyone ever died from wachting, to much, televison caused bye dehydration or to much stress?
well actually, someone did die of exhaustion at a pc cafe in korea for playing an MMO for to long.
and about the guy that tryed to be a smart ass and say GPA's dont go higher then 4.0, you obviously weren't a very bright high school student. being a straight A student with honors classes will bring your gpa above a 4.0
Originally posted by Sorrowho first off i smoke... second; has anyone ever died from wachting, to much, televison caused bye dehydration or to much stress?
well actually, someone did die of exhaustion at a pc cafe in korea for playing an MMO for to long.
and about the guy that tryed to be a smart ass and say GPA's dont go higher then 4.0, you obviously weren't a very bright high school student. being a straight A student with honors classes will bring your gpa above a 4.0
hehe; i think you missed my point... yere i know sevral has died from playing to much computer...
but i was talking about tv(television or whatever...)
Originally posted by En1Gma Any source of entertainment can be addicting if your self resolve is not greater than the short term pleasurable results of that entertainment given. TVs, Ipod, Consoles, mmorpgs, Alcohol, gambling, any form of entertainment can result in addiction. It just depends on how strong your resolve is. I.E., can you stop? Do you want to?
I agree but lot ofmmorpgs these days dont support "short term pleasure". I atleast end up quitting mmorpgs at like level 10 when my friends are at level 30 same time and they go totally different places than I would in game. End game in wow is just grind for items and in wow they even managed to turn pvp into grind which I though I would never see, but somehow blizzard did it.
I agree that any mmorpg or almost anything can become addictive, but lot of current mmorpgs are designed to be huge time sinks instead hour or two entertainment. Raids take hours to complete and you miss reward unless you are there to end (thanks to all bind on pick up systems).
Old uo used to feel very relaxing and you could enjoy it by playing hour or two doing quick dungeon run with friends while avoiding pks and thieves, but these days when I go look uo it seem it have turned to same sort of item grinding crap than everything else.
One reason why I have stopped at eve-online and enjoying it is that offline skill gaining and all items are dropped or destroyed when ships is destroyed, so there isnt items that become blessed/binded when picked up, but anything can be found from other players or trade with others. I can log for hour or two and enjoy much as anyone else and even be competive in pvp as I have corp(like guild/clan) supporting any ships lost in corp operations.
Originally posted by Sorrowho Well i think your right in the points... but i think theys a lot off resasons why mmorpgs and wow is addicting! mostly my guess will be that he/her has some problems in real life; so that a mmorpg seems nice, cause you get further and further in it. You lvl up get new gear and make friends on either sides if your one off the good/bad players Most will off course say no; that the game is addicting cause they are addictet to it... could be they are stuck in real life, with no bright furture in sigth, and only getting further inside a fantasy world! Others just tend to drink go on drugs/pills; so they can keep ignoring how they lifes really is, or they need to pass something... but about that system that prevents you from playing more then 3 hours each day; im not supporting that
well i might as well admit that ive been addictive to wow... try playing it 12 hours a day for a whole week and see how shitty you feel when you go to work... right now im unemployed, but im not blaming blizzard, my personal life just sucks and been that way for some years now(my own fault; not my freinds! or my own parrents...)!!
i had severe stress, i couldent sleep, and my stomach was damn annoying... ++
maybe they really should, and every other mmorpg add a system, that prevenst you from playing more then 5 hours pr day, in a week so thats 35 hours a week... that keeps reseting each week!! I always read and heard about so many duying infront off a pc playing a mmo or others killing someone caused bye a ingame action inside a mmo... but it shouldent happen, its sad when someone dies, or gets killed for a ingame problem
The thing thats gets me is, where are these kids parents?
When I was younger and spending too much time playing Subspace, My parents yelled at me and disconnected my internet connection. If my grades were bad, then no gaming for me. I think that yes they are addictive, but man parents need to step in and get your lil butt to school or wherever you need to go.
But on the other side of the fence, you have a game that can help as a teching tool. How to budget, how to work as a team, how to talk to other people that aren't like the ones in your hometown, How to use a computer and other such things.
Yes you can be addicted, and yes there are the people who stay up late nights and early mornings trying to earn the uberest gear of all, but in the end they have to realize that there is nothing that this game will do to benifit you, and that if it gets really bad, then it's time for parents to step in.
If your talking about college level people, Well then welcome to the club.
Hey at least they're not drinking themselves to death.
why blame the parrents, thats just as esay like blaming god... theys diffrent laws in each contry, about school systems, and parrents can be very uninformred. Its esay for a kid to skip school, and just lie your way out off everything
well nierro i quitted wow to. It would be nice if everyone had that selfcontrol but some just dies...
the person that died I think theres more to it than simply too long at a computer. I mean I've played for a long time before but I've always needed sleep, food and water. I guess it was her age, and not being able to resist that temptation to just keep on playing.
Originally posted by nomadian the person that died I think theres more to it than simply too long at a computer. I mean I've played for a long time before but I've always needed sleep, food and water. I guess it was her age, and not being able to resist that temptation to just keep on playing.
you mean the 16 year old chineese girl that recenelty died from dehydration; after 48 hours inside wow?? off course they must have been something roung... but havent you ever completly forgotten time, infront off a pc or maybe at a lan party? besides closing a door inside a small room; and having a televison + computer running at the same time really heats up a room to a high Degree (depends on the pc; i know my laptob gets so hot after 4 hours that you can almost coock a meal on it)
Originally posted by nomadian the person that died I think theres more to it than simply too long at a computer. I mean I've played for a long time before but I've always needed sleep, food and water. I guess it was her age, and not being able to resist that temptation to just keep on playing.
you mean the 16 year old chineese girl that recenelty died from dehydration; after 48 hours inside wow?? off course they must have been something roung... but havent you ever completly forgotten time, infront off a pc or maybe at a lan party? besides closing a door inside a small room; and having a televison + computer running at the same time really heats up a room to a high Degree (depends on the pc; i know my laptob gets so hot after 4 hours that you can almost coock a meal on it)
Hmm, I pulled a 4 day marathon with Earth and Beyond. I was pretty incoherent at the end of that though.
Personally I found WoW utterly boring and uninventive. It's just cartoony 'anime' graphics pasted onto an engine that doesn't really do anything inventive. Just takes ideas from other games and slaps them into it's own environment. It's easily the most 'dumbed down' MMORPG I've ever played.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online. Sig image Pending Still in: A couple Betas
Originally posted by Elnator Personally I found WoW utterly boring and uninventive. It's just cartoony 'anime' graphics pasted onto an engine that doesn't really do anything inventive. Just takes ideas from other games and slaps them into it's own environment. It's easily the most 'dumbed down' MMORPG I've ever played.
Thanks for that post of useless crap...and btw WoW's graphics are NOT anime style in ANY way, shape or form. Speaking of dumbed down...
Originally posted by Sorrowho well i might as well admit that ive been addictive to wow...try playing it 12 hours a day for a whole week and see how shitty you feel when you go to work...right now im unemployed, but im not blaming blizzard, my personal life just sucks and been that way for some years now(my own fault; not my freinds! or my own parrents...)!! i had severe stress, i couldent sleep, and my stomach was damn annoying... ++ maybe they really should, and every other mmorpg add a system, that prevenst you from playing more then 5 hours pr day, in a week so thats 35 hours a week... that keeps reseting each week!! I always read and heard about so many duying infront off a pc playing a mmo or others killing someone caused bye a ingame action inside a mmo... but it shouldent happen, its sad when someone dies, or gets killed for a ingame problem
Interesting points but thankfully most of us here live in western style deomocracies - limitiing thr amount of time i play somthing would be a serious infringement of my civil liberties, and as these countries are also free market and capatalist any game which limited players to 35hours a week would have a severe market disadvantage, people woudl choose not to buy them or play them.
But your other point is interesting too, generally the people i know who are addicted to mmos have other problems in their lives, or nothing else to do. This is true for those i know addicted to pot or alcohol too though...
Originally posted by faselei Originally posted by Sorrowho well i might as well admit that ive been addictive to wow...try playing it 12 hours a day for a whole week and see how shitty you feel when you go to work...right now im unemployed, but im not blaming blizzard, my personal life just sucks and been that way for some years now(my own fault; not my freinds! or my own parrents...)!! i had severe stress, i couldent sleep, and my stomach was damn annoying... ++ maybe they really should, and every other mmorpg add a system, that prevenst you from playing more then 5 hours pr day, in a week so thats 35 hours a week... that keeps reseting each week!! I always read and heard about so many duying infront off a pc playing a mmo or others killing someone caused bye a ingame action inside a mmo... but it shouldent happen, its sad when someone dies, or gets killed for a ingame problem
Interesting points but thankfully most of us here live in western style deomocracies - limitiing thr amount of time i play somthing would be a serious infringement of my civil liberties, and as these countries are also free market and capatalist any game which limited players to 35hours a week would have a severe market disadvantage, people woudl choose not to buy them or play them.
But your other point is interesting too, generally the people i know who are addicted to mmos have other problems in their lives, or nothing else to do. This is true for those i know addicted to pot or alcohol too though...
I hope things work out for you man!
i guess your right it, if they add such a system to a mmo, it have a serious problems beeing sold... but i have been addicted to alcohol, and taken light drugs; i stopped all that now, after getting in trouble with the police 2 times, (and 1 bad side effect for a whole week)
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the game could be addictive if u have nothing to do
i once spent 9 hours on a mmorpg because i got nothing to do
well actually, someone did die of exhaustion at a pc cafe in korea for playing an MMO for to long.
and about the guy that tryed to be a smart ass and say GPA's dont go higher then 4.0, you obviously weren't a very bright high school student. being a straight A student with honors classes will bring your gpa above a 4.0
well actually, someone did die of exhaustion at a pc cafe in korea for playing an MMO for to long.
and about the guy that tryed to be a smart ass and say GPA's dont go higher then 4.0, you obviously weren't a very bright high school student. being a straight A student with honors classes will bring your gpa above a 4.0
hehe; i think you missed my point... yere i know sevral has died from playing to much computer...
but i was talking about tv(television or whatever...)
I agree but lot ofmmorpgs these days dont support "short term pleasure". I atleast end up quitting mmorpgs at like level 10 when my friends are at level 30 same time and they go totally different places than I would in game. End game in wow is just grind for items and in wow they even managed to turn pvp into grind which I though I would never see, but somehow blizzard did it.
I agree that any mmorpg or almost anything can become addictive, but lot of current mmorpgs are designed to be huge time sinks instead hour or two entertainment. Raids take hours to complete and you miss reward unless you are there to end (thanks to all bind on pick up systems).
Old uo used to feel very relaxing and you could enjoy it by playing hour or two doing quick dungeon run with friends while avoiding pks and thieves, but these days when I go look uo it seem it have turned to same sort of item grinding crap than everything else.
One reason why I have stopped at eve-online and enjoying it is that offline skill gaining and all items are dropped or destroyed when ships is destroyed, so there isnt items that become blessed/binded when picked up, but anything can be found from other players or trade with others. I can log for hour or two and enjoy much as anyone else and even be competive in pvp as I have corp(like guild/clan) supporting any ships lost in corp operations.
well i might as well admit that ive been addictive to wow...
try playing it 12 hours a day for a whole week and see how shitty you feel when you go to work...
right now im unemployed, but im not blaming blizzard, my personal life just sucks and been that way for some years now(my own fault; not my freinds! or my own parrents...)!!
i had severe stress, i couldent sleep, and my stomach was damn annoying... ++
maybe they really should, and every other mmorpg add a system, that prevenst you from playing more then 5 hours pr day, in a week so thats 35 hours a week... that keeps reseting each week!! I always read and heard about so many duying infront off a pc playing a mmo or others killing someone caused bye a ingame action inside a mmo...
but it shouldent happen, its sad when someone dies, or gets killed for a ingame problem
Uh yes games can be very addictive.
The thing thats gets me is, where are these kids parents?
When I was younger and spending too much time playing Subspace, My parents yelled at me and disconnected my internet connection. If my grades were bad, then no gaming for me. I think that yes they are addictive, but man parents need to step in and get your lil butt to school or wherever you need to go.
But on the other side of the fence, you have a game that can help as a teching tool. How to budget, how to work as a team, how to talk to other people that aren't like the ones in your hometown, How to use a computer and other such things.
Yes you can be addicted, and yes there are the people who stay up late nights and early mornings trying to earn the uberest gear of all, but in the end they have to realize that there is nothing that this game will do to benifit you, and that if it gets really bad, then it's time for parents to step in.
If your talking about college level people, Well then welcome to the club.
Hey at least they're not drinking themselves to death.
Peace
I played WoW, and quit once I realized it's the same stuff over and over again. I was addictied for maybe a week.
why blame the parrents, thats just as esay like blaming god...
theys diffrent laws in each contry, about school systems, and parrents can be very uninformred.
Its esay for a kid to skip school, and just lie your way out off everything
well nierro i quitted wow to. It would be nice if everyone had that selfcontrol but some just dies...
the person that died I think theres more to it than simply too long at a computer. I mean I've played for a long time before but I've always needed sleep, food and water. I guess it was her age, and not being able to resist that temptation to just keep on playing.
you mean the 16 year old chineese girl that recenelty died from dehydration; after 48 hours inside wow??
off course they must have been something roung...
but havent you ever completly forgotten time, infront off a pc or maybe at a lan party?
besides closing a door inside a small room; and having a televison + computer running at the same time really heats up a room to a high Degree (depends on the pc; i know my laptob gets so hot after 4 hours that you can almost coock a meal on it)
you mean the 16 year old chineese girl that recenelty died from dehydration; after 48 hours inside wow??
off course they must have been something roung...
but havent you ever completly forgotten time, infront off a pc or maybe at a lan party?
besides closing a door inside a small room; and having a televison + computer running at the same time really heats up a room to a high Degree (depends on the pc; i know my laptob gets so hot after 4 hours that you can almost coock a meal on it)
Hmm, I pulled a 4 day marathon with Earth and Beyond. I was pretty incoherent at the end of that though.
Personally I found WoW utterly boring and uninventive. It's just cartoony 'anime' graphics pasted onto an engine that doesn't really do anything inventive. Just takes ideas from other games and slaps them into it's own environment. It's easily the most 'dumbed down' MMORPG I've ever played.
Currently Playing: Dungeons and Dragons Online.
Sig image Pending
Still in: A couple Betas
Interesting points but thankfully most of us here live in western style deomocracies - limitiing thr amount of time i play somthing would be a serious infringement of my civil liberties, and as these countries are also free market and capatalist any game which limited players to 35hours a week would have a severe market disadvantage, people woudl choose not to buy them or play them.
But your other point is interesting too, generally the people i know who are addicted to mmos have other problems in their lives, or nothing else to do. This is true for those i know addicted to pot or alcohol too though...
I hope things work out for you man!
Interesting points but thankfully most of us here live in western style deomocracies - limitiing thr amount of time i play somthing would be a serious infringement of my civil liberties, and as these countries are also free market and capatalist any game which limited players to 35hours a week would have a severe market disadvantage, people woudl choose not to buy them or play them.
But your other point is interesting too, generally the people i know who are addicted to mmos have other problems in their lives, or nothing else to do. This is true for those i know addicted to pot or alcohol too though...
I hope things work out for you man!
i guess your right it, if they add such a system to a mmo, it have a serious problems beeing sold...
but i have been addicted to alcohol, and taken light drugs; i stopped all that now, after getting in trouble with the police 2 times, (and 1 bad side effect for a whole week)
thxs fir your comment