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So how many SoG preorders do you think they sold?
fulmanfu
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anyone want to guess a rough estimate.
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1000- 2500 is just a guess . No way all will sell though. If Iwere not such a tightwad SOb Iwould go drop 60 and consider it a donation to charity cause when/if they put the ten k up for grabs it will be a Mongolian cluster event over there. People will try anything if it is free then bitch about it for the next 6 months. Look what happened with Face of Mankind and Wish
If they had priced the keys at five bucks I would have bought one just for the heck of it to hedge my bets so to speak.
I miss DAoC
IT seems that they sold out all the keys. When I try to log in and make a purchase i get this msg:
"Dark and Light Registration Office
Pioneer registration full!
We're sorry, but we have already accepted our limit for the Pioneer Pack. "
Well God bless their little pea picking souls, now they might have enough cash to rent or buy some servers and bandwidth for SoG's release in December.
I miss DAoC
All accounts are sold, took 2 days
http://www.darkandlight.net/if_aria_upgrade.php3
Just goes to prove PT Barnum was correct I guess if they really did sell them all. There really is a sucker born every minute LOL.
On the other hand if I think 99.999 percent of the sales were made in the first 8 to 12 hours so it would look a lot better to end key sales now and take the chance of losing a sale or two from people out of town for the holidays than let the public know that only a few hundred or a thousand or two were sold. Hype baby hype, these guys could teach Microsoft a lesson or two in hype.
Anyway if SoG turns out to be a POS will you be just as quick to come in here and say gee jackdog you are always so right? Guess we will find out if I am wrong or right in December now won't we, unless they have the balls to delay again. ~grabs popcorn and a fresh beer to watch the dog and pony show ~
I miss DAoC
Excuse me Jack... you may have not noticed, but is that a black feather sticking out of your mouth?
Just teasing ya!
How do they say it in French?
No idea, why?
alas my humour was too subtle... the French say "solded out"... get it?... oh never mind
RoFL No I am not ready to get out the knife and fork just yet. I'll give you a quick lesson in Marketing 101 here, not that it appears you need it if you get my drift
Sales were on a bell curve with most all of the orders happening within the first 6 to 8 hours. Some who had problems with the order or maybe were fence sitters may have bought yesterday but I would wager that by this morning sales would have trickled down to around zero. Secondly buyers remorse sets in usually between 24 to 48 hours, so now they have done 2 things. One they reinforced the purchasers decisions, and have effectively eliminated and and all people deciding to cancel.
Before anyone accuses me of using the C word go goggle up the legal definition of that and you will see that they could have sold 880 or 8800 keys and that would have no way fall under the definition of a conspiracy. What it is though is excellent marketing strategy. Right now everyone who wore out their F5 key trying to order are congratulating themselves on what a wise decision they have made and some who did not are regretting it and having thoughts of seeing if one is available on Ebay.
Thats a popcorn kernel you see sticking out of mouth right now Blac, but I do have a crow scheduled for the grill in December, and either you or I will be munching on it. Perversely I really do hope I have been dead wrong these last few months and hope that I will be the one with the feathers
I would never be so happy to be so wrong about something if the game turns out to be 1/4 as good as they have it hyped up to be.
Blac I have never been quite sure if you are involved in the marketing or not, you do seem to have a excellent connection somewhere if you are not. But if you are kudos on a excellent plan here, I could not have done better myself other than I would have beefed up my servers to make sure they would have handled the initial influx better. Other wise it was a most excellent little campaign.
I miss DAoC
I gurantee you they didn't sell out those keys. People (specially mmorpg players) don't order things they havent even tried yet.
It says they reached their limit? Well what exactly is the limit? And if they reached that limit and sold out than wouldn't it be wise to give MORE keys and make even MORE money? Why are they not?? Because only a few suckers are buying them that is why.
idiots born every minute.
These clowns can't even keep up a simple website and people expect them to make a functioning MMORPG? Ha right.
thats the truth...and they seem to be congregating on this thread
whats so hard to understand...they sold all the pioneer accounts. im sure they will sell some variation of preorders after SoG starts.
every game sells preorders, most before you can try it.
I miss DAoC
what about The Chronicle. they sell preorders and noone has playled it. advertising 'the earlier you preorder the more powerful your unique item will be' while noone knows what it even is.
What about auto assault?? they have been selling preorders for half a year, promising beta spots to people who buy, and STILL havnt let most of them in beta.
every game does this anymore.
Yes, all 8881 keys were sold. A marketing ploy, some say...compare the number of invoice between the first that completed the order process, and the ones in the middle, and the ones that got it just prior to the keys being stated solded out. Its quite obvious all the keys were sold, the invoice numbers were generated by the third party company that has no interest in a marketing ploy.
Naysay all you like, but it is quite apparent how wrong you are.
Taking pre orders is fine, debiting your charge card 6 months in advance is not. From what is on the official site , once you log into SoG no refund, did you pay for SoG or DnL? confusing isn't it.
Can't speak for the Chronicle but with Auto Assault NCsoft is backing it, I can pre order it through EB and my card will not be charged until 10 days before the game ships. If the game never ships no charge. Comparing it with Chronicle may be accurate but not with AA. NCSoft has a record of producing winning games whether they are to your taste or not L1 L2, CoH. NP3 has a record of missing every dead line they have set for themselves in the last three years and the longest beta in MMORPG to my knowledge.
At E3 last May AA had a smooth working early build of their game with lots of features present, not all of them by any means but a good representation. NP3 had a buggy sometimes working dragonflight and hang glider demo.
Here is a example of a preview of AA
http://pc.gamespy.com/pc/auto-assault/630427p1.html
find me any third party preview of DnL where the reviewer has played the game
Anyway if you want to donate 60 to NP3 in hopes they will finish the game it is your money and decision. Just look at it as a donation though, not as a purchase and you will be ok.
I miss DAoC
This is a pre-order for DnL full, april release, as you know. I have no idea about consumer laws in the US, but in the UK, should they fail to deliver the *full* game, as described, I can claim a refund from UK Click and Buy. What they say about no refunds after logging into SoG wouldn't stand under European and UK consumer law.
Our consumer laws are very strict. In the UK Click and Buy are regulated as financial brokers and technically in UK law I made the purchase from them and they are liable should one of their partners fail to make good. This is why PayPal and eBay have different terms and conditions in the UK than they do in the US and other countries. They are forced to abide by European Union law.
So if DnL doesn't show, is a scam, is delayed beyond a reasonable time frame or differs greatly than described when I ordered I *can* claim a refund against Click and Buy UK. One of the main reasons I wasn't worried. UK Sale of Goods Act 1979, Sale of Goods (Amendment) Act 1994, Sale of Goods (Amendment) Act 1995.
“Hustlers of the world, there is one mark you cannot beat: the mark inside.”
― William S. Burroughs
This is a pre-order for DnL full, april release, as you know. I have no idea about consumer laws in the US, but in the UK, should they fail to deliver the *full* game, as described, I can claim a refund from UK Click and Buy. What they say about no refunds after logging into SoG wouldn't stand under European and UK consumer law.
Our consumer laws are very strict. In the UK Click and Buy are regulated as financial brokers and technically in UK law I made the purchase from them and they are liable should one of their partners fail to make good. This is why PayPal and eBay have different terms and conditions in the UK than they do in the US and other countries. They are forced to abide by European Union law.
So if DnL doesn't show, is a scam, is delayed beyond a reasonable time frame or differs greatly than described when I ordered I *can* claim a refund against Click and Buy UK. One of the main reasons I wasn't worried. UK Sale of Goods Act 1979, Sale of Goods (Amendment) Act 1994, Sale of Goods (Amendment) Act 1995.
Now they are saying you will be able only get a refund if you are not gona log in SOG. If you are gona log in to SOG then no refund for you. Dont forget you bought/pre-ordered this prodct "as is":):)
No. Due to several factors, cancelling an order you've already submitted will not be possible. Due to the high demand for downloads and the short time between when you place your order and when you are able to download, we cannot accept later cancellations, so make sure you want to pre-order the Pioneer pack before you order. Should you change your mind after, you can however contact us at: customerservice@darkandlight.com.
What is your charge back policy?
Starting on the 8th of December 2005, if you are unable to use your Pioneer Pack to connect to Settlers of Ganareth for the first three months following your purchase, you can contact us at customerservice@darkandlight.com to be refunded.
why dont people just grab a free account, try it, if they like it, then use the pioneer account, and if not, get the refund?
you can always give that free account to your friend or something or heaven forbid, SELL it in ebay