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Theives/Rogue/Bard.... anythign that steals and sneaks

ConsumEConsumE Member Posts: 19
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wouldn't it be cool if you could sneak in through a window into somone house and yoink all their treasures?

theif sounds really fun in this game. being as you aren't limited to the number of items you can jack from a person at one time. then you can go horde it in a house of your own so some other theif can steal it! god this game is awsome. so many possibilities. then pirates will be able to gank each other on the open seas. woo if anyone has any cool ideas post em up please id love to hear about em

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  • doobsterdoobster Member Posts: 736


    Originally posted by ConsumE

    wouldn't it be cool if you could sneak in through a window into somone house and yoink all their treasures?

    Sounds pretty unbalanced to me.
  • HolyCircleHolyCircle Member Posts: 73

    How's that unbalanced?! Technically, anyone should be able to break a window, unless it has steel bars, and sneak it. Obviously, such entrance should take more time, and while entering through anything that's not a Door, player should be completely open for attack and unable to defend until he's completely in or out. As for entering through windows above ground level, let's say 2nd floor, it should only be done either through a pre-set rope, or a special rouge climb skill. This way things are balanced.

  • JadalJadal Member Posts: 134

    How do I as Joe Homeowner defend my house and stored items from a thief? If I put it in a lockbox you will want to be able to pick it. If I put all my stuff in a bank, you will be upset that there is nothing to steal.

    So I guess I will just have to stay within eye sight of my house just to make sure someone doesnt break in. Yea sounds just great.

  • KaneKane Member Posts: 780

    Hm...if this is going to be the proginy of UO, I would HOPE you can sneak into someones house. If they dont have the proper security, their loss. Thats why I always kept things in the bank. ::::01::

  • ConsumEConsumE Member Posts: 19
    first of all i think all of you need to read some more about DF... there are threads and more threads about this stuff. for the people that are bitching because they can't protect their house... there are traps you can set and lock your doors aswell. and i find it very well balanced to let theives steal from houses because you can set traps in your house and lock your doors to make ti more difficult. i for one as a theif will not stand at the door for more than a few seconds trying to open it because some time sooner or later i will be spotted and killed. i really hope this game is not limited very much and let people think for themselves sometime. everyone relies on easy bullshit protection. they started this game out with theives being able to steal from about anything and now there are thoughts on making theives restricted because of everyone being so scared of letting their shit get stolen. Don't let it hapen. Don't let the theives take your shit. there are ways to prevent that kind of thing. and you al have to remember armor and weapons aren't a huge issue. they are going to be chea[p... mabye not dirt cheap but it's not going to take you a month of farming to buy a new BP like EQ bullshit. there have been discussions on having a box inside your house that is locked and can't broken into so you can store your stuff inside.

    Consume

  • TheSuaveOneTheSuaveOne Member Posts: 9
    Thieves ftw...la
  • LaneoLaneo Member Posts: 359

    To all you above me that dont know how to spell THIEF or ROGUE

    You are not Rogue types so just move along. A true Rogue knows how to spell them. :)

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  • JadalJadal Member Posts: 134

    Originally posted by ConsumE
    first of all i think all of you need to read some more about DF... there are threads and more threads about this stuff. for the people that are bitching because they can't protect their house... there are traps you can set and lock your doors aswell. and i find it very well balanced to let theives steal from houses because you can set traps in your house and lock your doors to make ti more difficult. i for one as a theif will not stand at the door for more than a few seconds trying to open it because some time sooner or later i will be spotted and killed. i really hope this game is not limited very much and let people think for themselves sometime. everyone relies on easy bullshit protection. they started this game out with theives being able to steal from about anything and now there are thoughts on making theives restricted because of everyone being so scared of letting their shit get stolen. Don't let it hapen. Don't let the theives take your shit. there are ways to prevent that kind of thing. and you al have to remember armor and weapons aren't a huge issue. they are going to be chea[p... mabye not dirt cheap but it's not going to take you a month of farming to buy a new BP like EQ bullshit. there have been discussions on having a box inside your house that is locked and can't broken into so you can store your stuff inside.
    From the looks of this thread you arent a thief you are a cleric or necromancer the way you rezzed this dead thread
    ::::01::

    The problem isnt so much that thieves arent cool, cause they kinda are in their own way. The problem is with the implementation of the mechanics.

    1) There has to be something worth stealing in the house. Otherwise there would be no purpose to stealing.
    2) If the devs allow stealing from houses, then thieves HAVE TO BE ABLE to steal from houses.
    3) Traps and locks cant stop a thief from breaking into a house (see 2).

    My point is that it isnt enough just to say "I want thieves to be able to steal". You have to actually work out the problems that might occur with that type of game mechanic. You can apply the same thing to pick-pocketing btw.

    So a non-thief player would have no incentive to put ANYTHING in his house. As a thief you are then stuck with a mechanic that can be used but has no purpose. You spent the time and the effort to be able to do something that in the end will give you no benefit.

  • ApraxisApraxis Member UncommonPosts: 1,518

    First, the devs stated, that you will have 1 or 2 save chests(with limited space, unpickable).
    And than, bank space will limited, too. But noone knows until, that the bank will be a save place.
    Maybe thieves can robbery the bank, too ::::03::

    So generally you can place some stuff to a save place, but not all your stuff. And this can be stolen
    by thieves.

    And i think both (thief and non-thief) can really good live withit, and it give a lot to the game experience.

  • SpiritofGameSpiritofGame Member UncommonPosts: 1,332


    Originally posted by ConsumE

    wouldn't it be cool if you could sneak in through a window into somone house and yoink all their treasures?
    theif sounds really fun in this game. being as you aren't limited to the number of items you can jack from a person at one time. then you can go horde it in a house of your own so some other theif can steal it! god this game is awsome. so many possibilities. then pirates will be able to gank each other on the open seas. woo if anyone has any cool ideas post em up please id love to hear about em

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  • chrono2455chrono2455 Member Posts: 106
    Personally I hope this doesn't end up turning into another UO as I've heard before they had the mirror server ganking was rampant. Yeah PVPers go about bitching about players who want it easier and the ones who want it easier say PVPers go around griefing them. Well yeah I'd like to play a game with PVP but I don't want some tard coming along decked out in armor with 50 some odd friends and all ganging up on lil old me in my non armor clothing. But! I will never bitch about PKs needing to be banned.... sure I will be heavily annoyed at the cowardly loser who attacked me because he wanted to get his jollies but I will not PM the GM just because I got my ass kicked by some retard. Also the game is supposed to be less limited then most games so to have houses able to be broken into sounds cool. But on the whole it just sounds like more reason for me to keep my most valuable items in storage when not in use instead of strewn about the house... and to set up uber traps. BTW if I find any bodies in my house I will hand them over to the local necrophiliac. Just an FYI and sorry for the bit of major offtopic speach.
  • IIRLIIRL Member Posts: 876

    Originally posted by chrono2455
    Personally I hope this doesn't end up turning into another UO as I've heard before they had the mirror server ganking was rampant. Yeah PVPers go about bitching about players who want it easier and the ones who want it easier say PVPers go around griefing them. Well yeah I'd like to play a game with PVP but I don't want some tard coming along decked out in armor with 50 some odd friends and all ganging up on lil old me in my non armor clothing. But! I will never bitch about PKs needing to be banned.... sure I will be heavily annoyed at the cowardly loser who attacked me because he wanted to get his jollies but I will not PM the GM just because I got my ass kicked by some retard. Also the game is supposed to be less limited then most games so to have houses able to be broken into sounds cool. But on the whole it just sounds like more reason for me to keep my most valuable items in storage when not in use instead of strewn about the house... and to set up uber traps. BTW if I find any bodies in my house I will hand them over to the local necrophiliac. Just an FYI and sorry for the bit of major offtopic speach.

    Someone here has an issue with being ganked.

    You are contradicting yourself, why would you else call people who gank/pk retards, losers and so on if you do not have a grief about getting pk'd/ganged?

    That's just pathetic, ignorant and narrow minded deeming a person retarded, loser and cowardly just because they kill you.

    I bet you had your own share of experiences in MMO's outnumbering and offing someone without a reason and with one as well, why don't deem yourself a retarded loser then? Or if you say you have not, call yourself a no good lier then.

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  • chrono2455chrono2455 Member Posts: 106


    Originally posted by IIRL




    Originally posted by chrono2455
    Personally I hope this doesn't end up turning into another UO as I've heard before they had the mirror server ganking was rampant. Yeah PVPers go about bitching about players who want it easier and the ones who want it easier say PVPers go around griefing them. Well yeah I'd like to play a game with PVP but I don't want some tard coming along decked out in armor with 50 some odd friends and all ganging up on lil old me in my non armor clothing. But! I will never bitch about PKs needing to be banned.... sure I will be heavily annoyed at the cowardly loser who attacked me because he wanted to get his jollies but I will not PM the GM just because I got my ass kicked by some retard. Also the game is supposed to be less limited then most games so to have houses able to be broken into sounds cool. But on the whole it just sounds like more reason for me to keep my most valuable items in storage when not in use instead of strewn about the house... and to set up uber traps. BTW if I find any bodies in my house I will hand them over to the local necrophiliac. Just an FYI and sorry for the bit of major offtopic speach.

    Someone here has an issue with being ganked.

    You are contradicting yourself, why would you else call people who gank/pk retards, losers and so on if you do not have a grief about getting pk'd/ganged?

    That's just pathetic, ignorant and narrow minded deeming a person retarded, loser and cowardly just because they kill you.

    I bet you had your own share of experiences in MMO's outnumbering and offing someone without a reason and with one as well, why don't deem yourself a retarded loser then? Or if you say you have not, call yourself a no good lier then.


    Naw I'm not saying getting killed by some one makes them cowardly I'm saying me getting my ass kicked by a gang of twenty is cowardly. getting beaten  by 2 is fine and sporting 3 I can deal 4 starts too irk me 5 is unfair combat and 6- infinity is downright cowardly. If you don't wanna get called a coward then pk by your loansome. Oh and though Darkfall looks great I've never really been much for pvp the most I've experienced in PVP is warsong gulch in World of warcraft and I don't think I've ever ganged up on anyone not that I can remember anyways. Anyways I'm only refering to Pkers who attack people who don't even have a chance of fighting back. If you PK some one your level or higher then it's there fault they can't defend them selves.
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