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About Private servers...
Well since all theese post keeps popping up about em...
i just wanna say, that you never get the real experince out off lineage2, from a private server, compared to retial servers...
cause they have bugs, so most cant be done, and they have really high rates, (some),
witch is a key feture in lineage2... ++++++ ++ very diffrenet from each private server...
ohh well im playing retail and did play private servers, and my opnion the retials are much better...
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Just simply say:
Retail = Real Lineage2
Private Servers = A crap game 'named' Lineage2, but still far away from the original
..hax..
There's nobody wha rather play on a private server , i gues, but some people dont got enough money to pay for themselves. I would realy wanna play on a retail server but still free is good enough for me. There are some private servers that dosnt lag and got tons of bugs but theres allways something wrong with them so i agree with you. The REAL servers are better than the crappy private.
Yep PS's really blow
Its hard to get immersed in a PS, when its really empty & dull.
And you dont get the satisfaction of having a high level character in a PS.
The game on a private server is not the same game as retail. Its how someone else WANTS the game to be. Also the quality has to just suck as there is no way these people can properly maintain and update these PS. Think about it, the guy who didn't have the patience to level up in L2 is now gonna run a private server over a long period of time? lol, the individual hardly has the attention span to play the game let alone run it. (which would be far more demanding and time consumming) its not like you just turn it on and let it go lol.
What I don't understand is why these people are so bold with anouncing L2 servers. We all know that PS exsist for every game but L2 PS are posted everywhere.
i haven't figured the big deal in marketing behind those either...there must be more behind it than the simple wish to have more server-population
i agree that retail is much better than private;
i do see though how you can be driven away from it and into some private, as L2 is a extremely demanding Mmo, maybe a tad too much
I know I've seen post about a common tactic. The Admins will demand a "donation" or else they will kick you off the server. Also they make high level items availible for cash. So there is probably dollar signs involved.
I'm sure in the end you end up paying the same if not more for a private server because these Admins basicly sell you what you want and then ask for a "donation". On top of it, I'm sure the server quality is not very good.
Pretty sad, but there is a sucker born every minute
i knew quite a few ppl from my old server who went to private cos of all the drama my server had not to mention all the farmers
As if there are no cheats for retail. Big LOL. Level 1-60 in a few days is possible if you pay the right money or know the right people. The rest aka the dumb croud will spend several months of hitting the same few mobs over and over and feel the pain of the most boring most slow grind ever.
On my old Retail server (Erica) there are two 7x players known to have reached their level legit. The rest was botting, sitting in farmer trains or using other cheats to get to that level. When I see that i seriously wonder how many players *really* want the "real" lineage 2.
While private servers usually are no problem for software manufacturers because hardly anybody plays them (look at DAoC or WoW) it's a totally different thing for L2. I suggest you google a little and you'll find out there're more people playing private L2 servers then people playing retail. It's not just a few that got sick of the uber boring uber repetive grind of L2.
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yea its a shame my one friend was lvl 30 in cruma tower didnt see him for a week then when i saw him again he was a member of my enemy alliance that was all powerful and he was lvl 60 i was like wtf i got 40-45 in the time he got 30-60
we all have our own opnions, dont be so offensive...
maybe theys lots off private servers, to play on, how many that plays on em is something else...
Hehah, this is funny so I will tell you what I know!
I first played L2 on Retail. Then I saw a friend of mine playing on a 3x server with a decient population, that had many donators...so I could play for free. They promised no wipe. I played on that server and found it not as fun as retail. Sure it was a bit easier, but about half or less the population of Retail. There was no satisfaction to level, and no real reason to...because well...basically it was dumb...I am not gonna go into detail. Oh BTW the server was wiped, and my friend now plays official along with 20 other of his friends in his clan. lolz
Private servers I can see why people that don't have money play, but really...if you have time to play L2 and have no money...you should spend a little of that time and get a job. I am a "poor college student" and I can afford $15 dollars a month. I mean...dang $15 is one ticket to a movie and a Value meal at your favorite fast food restaurant, and if you payed for popcorn and a drink at the movie you just spent about enough for 2 months of Lineage.
The people that would play private are the people that would probally cheat on official. Everybody wants to be uB3r L33t and feels like they have to be lvl 75 to have fun, and just can't actually enjoy the game. People say this game is one big grind, but really...that is only if all you do is grind, there is so much more that most are oblivious to because they need to get gear and become high level and that is all they care about.
I admit, I downloaded another private server one time...the rates were so high, I didn't even see level 2, I went from lvl 1-3 in one kill. I could buy everything even S grade from NPCs. There were like 3 people on the server, because people leveled there characters to 75 in a week, and then log in for an hour or 2 a month so they can play an MMO like a fighting game. I was like, this is kinda cool..except after 3 hours...I was soo damn bored...I dunno why...but it was the Sux0rZ.
So basically, Private servers are for n00bs that think they are cool and uber, and Retail servers are for real gamers, and don't mind paying a monthly fee to play a game the way it was meant to be, and help support new content.
Yeah I played on a private server recently because I wanted to get a "feel" of the game. There are no trials out and I have to make a decision between this and Dark Age of Camelot before Christmas arrives so I got desperate and went ahead. I found it to be quite a bad representation of the game. I lvled everytime I killed something and I basically just got outta the game after 20mins because I knew this wasn't an accurate representation of what the game is like. So now once more I am confined to witness the battle inside me between DAOC and L2. On a sidenote, how exactly do servers like these run? I mean its not incredibly hard to find them on the net, how come they aren't just shut down immediatly or something? Seriously, any fool on the net can just google it and follow almost incredibly easy instructions and be playing off the bat.
Ok 367!
Tell you what, just purchase L2..it costs less than $20, and at least it looks better than DAOC IMO. There is a grind, but...that doesn't mean the game isn't fun...only if you like torture and decide to grind for 12 hours straight you you can be high level will it blow.
This game is time consuming and hard to get in game items because the market is ruthless, but you DON'T have to buy adena...actually once you find a why to make money, it becomes really easy and you have no problem. I would tell you how you can, but the economy is different on each server so you will just have to figure it out. Playing the market is usually the fastest way. And sometimes the manor system works...so check that out.
Oh yes, and why do private servers still exist you may ask? Probally because game companies know that these don't really pose a threat because the companies know they suck. lol But yep, I have found private servers for every MMO out there...including WoW...and even Guildwars lmao.
I might. My biggest issue is the grind really. I've looked at everything and it sounds awesome. Same with DAOC except theres not much of a grind there. I mean I'm a bit weak hearted but I know I can bear through it considering some of my experiances. Now the following may scare you, but nonetheless it is what my experiences are. In World of Warcraft I couldnt really manage to level past 20 on any character. I played EVERY class on the Horde side till 20 and then I just basically quit the game. Next, I played Matrix Online and braved it to lvl 40/50 which is considerably amazing considering the MIND-NUMBING grind. Seriously, I cant stand how boring and repetitive they managed to make the grind, its almost an art. I do have the will to grind if it is able to keep me engrossed each level of the way. In WoW I got bored by the time I hit 20 each time and it just made me lose my will. Now I am wondering if Lineage II will do the same? I know with DAOC there is Battlegrounds which I can easily slip into and get XP for killing other players which is heaven to me. Im basically ALL FOR PvP. Its my absolute favorite thing to do in an MMORPG. Thus, I was drawn to Lineage II because of its Open-PvP like structure, which is the same as Matrix Online. DAOC also provides an option like this and thus I went to it also. Now I basically need to know, what ways are there to level, how interesting is it, and is it an engaging experience each step of the way with me having something to do other than mindlessly grinding to a certain level. (ex: craft, PvP, castle siege, etc.)
Lastly, I dont need anyone telling me to make my own decision and that usual stuff. Im here for suggestions, I WANT TO HEAR OTHER PEOPLES VIEWS.
Finally, sorry if I didn't paragraph enough or w/e.
OK, I am gonna be compleately honest. I have never played Matrix Online, and I have played WoW for a little bit...but I got bored. L2 has the longest grind I think out of most of the MMOs. Yes, it can be mind numbing. Pretty much, the quests don't have too deep of a storyline...they tell you a little story and tell you to kill so many of a number of mobs and collect items and return them. How you level up is grinding, 90% of quests are based off of grinding. But, there is crafting that is really simple, except maybe getting the materials themselves, but it isn't too bad.
It took me about 1 year to make it to lvl 42 and become a Spellsinger (Light Elf Mage). Mind you I did a lot in the game besides grind, and I am a pretty casual gamer. Plus on top of that Spellsingers take a long time to level because they have to rest a lot to regen their MP...they don't have good MP management skills.
Lineage 2 is the kind of game that you will play for years and still not experience everything and maybe not even get to level 75. I tend to play L2 in spirts though. Sometimes I do get bored of the grind. For example, I will play for 2 or 3 months, and then I will take a month break and do other stuff, usually not dealing with video games, and then come back to L2.
I think this game is the best MMO, but I find that I think this mostly because of the friends I made in this game. To be honest, the stoyline and quest content will definately NOT keep you in this game. This is a very social game, and in order to have fun, you need friends...and even better a clan. So the game to be truthful will probally be boring a little bit for the first month, until you get high enough level to meet more people and join a clan. I almost gave up on the game, but then when I hit lvl 40 I joined a nice clan in a large Alliance and it became soo much more fun, and I am very glad I didn't give up.
You don't get anything from PvP like Experience...except RL experience on how to PvP. You can drop your very expensive items (not your weapon) and you DO loose XP. This is a very low chance in PvP though, but when fighting Monsters it can happen often, but usually is small items like materials you are carrying with you.
So my advice to you is, you should try the game. You may like it, and you may not. It is cheap to buy, and you may come to like it a lot. I first was swindled into playing because of the free expansions that are released, so it is almost like playing a game without a monthly fee, and just paying for expansions. But there is a large grind, so be warry!
well, my friends like finding fun MMO's and we all like playing them. We hop around a lot and my friends will say "OMG THIS IS THE BEST GAME" but ill know it isnt, and theyll grow out of it and look for a new one. Well, a few of my friends decided that Lineage 2 was the best game ever, and we should all play it. And since my friends dont actually pay for games, they found a private server. So i tried it out, and let me say, though I have not played the REAL lineage 2, and despite the fact im still playing on the private server, private servers suck. Theres not as many people and its really boring. Of course if thats how you like them, than be my guest and go ahead and play on them, but if you like the game, I suggest buying it.
If you got bored in WoW by level 20, let me save you some money and suggest you stay away from Lineage 2. There's no game that shows you what a grind is quiet like Lineage 2. Unless they changed stuff from when I quit, and I did make it to 40, Phantom Ranger. It was a huge grind. I made 60 in WoW before I made 40 in Lineage 2.
You hit the same crap over and over and over, till 75 I think, but theres really no cap. And I can't speak of private servers because I have never tried one. But the server I was on Sieghardt was littered with Asian Farmers. Things might have changed I havent played in 7 + months, but I would be pretty sure that horrible grind is still there.
One positive I can give Lineage 2 was the graphics, it was beautiful. If they would have just made a good game underneath it, IT would have been a contender in the west. Right now there's many better games available with more depth.
Private servers sucks, cause they have No Grind
, no really they suck for a lot off others reasons to...
the grind in lineage2 is very long, but if you don´t like that don´t go to a private server unleass you can´t afford the real game, they not worth it...
besides it depends on what stuff how much you play and all sorts off things many players have hit lvl 52 in around 3 Weeks, but they have Top Gear, spams SS/SpS and have buffs bots in 24/7 hunting time....
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im only 35 with my new toon startet 3 weeks ago, hehe i lvl slow but i have fun been in PvP aginst Raid Bosses and fought aginst farmers but i ran away when a 52+ one came
all you need is a good clan that has the same playing time goals matureness like your self and players around your lvls then every lvl is fun in lineage2... theys no big resaons to hit 75 as fast as you can enjoy the ride
Anyway, I was going to say, If you had trouble leveling in any way in World of Warcraft, I don't think L2 will suit you very well. Its no secret L2 has one of the more difficult leveling in the genre. I do have to ask this though, why are you in such an all fire hurry to cap out a character inb the first place? The games are call MMORPG's the key element in that title is the RPG as most players overlook it. All leveling is, is a number with maybe a new skill or ability. If you play the game, the levels will come. If you want to start at some sort of "cap" maybe look into Guild Wars or some other genre like shooters where there is no grind. All MMORPG's have grind, some more then others. It depends what you want from the game. Grind is a given, but look at other aspects like content. If you are looking for content, no game out there can beat Asheron's Call in volume of content. There is simply to much to do. http://www.thejackcat.com/AC/ see this site for a list of quest
But what is "content" really? Does it make a player feel better knowing there are "over a bizlion quest" for you to run out and kill mob X and get a nice reward? Quest that everyone gets to do and get the same reward? MMORPGs really have not yet evolved to a point where they are truly interactive and dynamic yet. The best you can hope for is a balanced, complete game mechanic with enough variety to keep you interested.
If you hit cap it doesn't make you uber or better, it just means you played X amount of time. Some will pass you up others will be left behind, when an uber capped player quits guess what? the game goes on without them. What matters in a game is whether you enjoyed your stay.
I would say start looking for some like minded people and make some friends. It makes all the difference in the world in any game. Sounds like you charge in level, level, level and quit when you get bored. You will never really enjoy any MMORPG (as they are currently designed) Playing alone usually leaves you torturing yourself watching the XP counter. Go make some friends, join or make a guild. Go look around the game world. I can stand in the same spot and kill the same mob until my eyes bleed in any game but whats the point of that? (by the way the idea of critising a game based on the community is not a valid criticism, its a subjective observation made by one person, all games have nice people and jerks)
Does it really matter if you hit the level cap? The answer is no. If leveling is a chore then you are not "playing" a game. You are doing a chore. so stop Leveling and play the games. Before moving on to a new game like L2, which you will not like, revisit one of the other ones you tried and PLAY it this time.
Torak, so true...it seems like everyone is in a rush to get to the level cap in MMOs. That isn't really beating the game, that is missing it!
I think yesterday in my play time of L2 I had the most fun ever! I am a lvl 45 Spellsinger, and have been playing since the very beginning of C2. I met a new friend in the game a few days ago (Orc Overlord) and we decided to go exploring. We ran from the Enterence of the Forest of Mirrors, all the way to devistated castle. Mid you we were BOTH very low level for that region. We were killing mobs on our way. It started to get really fun, when we were killing one mob at a time, and almost dying...those mobs were sooo strong. We didn't get good XP though because I think they were too high level, and when that happens I don't think you get normal XP.
Well anyway, we made it all the way to the castle, and looked around. Nobody...owns it yet...lol. On that whole trip I made 8%, and even though that was very little, I didn't even notice I was grinding...I was adventureing.
Then my SE clanmate logged in, and we went into the Catacombs and grinded for 8 hours, I know...that is like the longest I ever grinded...but it was soooo fun...we met so many cool people and made a nice group. We chatted socialized, told jokes...and what have you...thats prolly why 8 hours passed so quickly, and I made it to lvl 45!!!
You played 8 hours plus the time hunting with the Orc friend???
My ars would hurt and my eyes would bleed if I played anything that long.
Once you start grinding in any game, its a chore. At times I even thought WoW got dull. The problem with WoW is no one groups while grinding because the xp split makes it not worth it. Luckily enough of the elite quest at all levels require grouping to succeed. If I had to solo my way through WoW I probably would have quit also.
Last night I leveled for a about an hour, checked out a new area for better xp, tried out a different weapon and compared damages and reworked my macros. Then I sorted out all the recipes I have and looked them up on www.l2wh.com for the market values. Me and a guildie worked out a way to sell them all. (she is going to do the shop as I cant leave my PC dedicated to L2) I'm going to cut her in on a share of the profit. With any luck we should make some nice cash
My goal is to get a claymore but them bad boys are expensive....
[QUOTE] You played 8 hours plus the time hunting with the Orc friend???
My ars would hurt and my eyes would bleed if I played anything that long. [/QUOTE]
Hahaha, yeah...I little bit of both...
But that was like my second day back to L2 in a month...so I was pretty pumped. Plus the group I was in was a Pole group, so it was pretty sweet...my first ever pole group...and it was intense.
Love this game...dunno if I will love it forever...but right now...it is pretty coool!!
I played Lin2 in retail and I was soon bored with the game. The grind is horrible, the amount of botters and cheaters was outrageous and the game was generally not all that good. Now I play on a private server with increased XP and droprates, and I'm having a lot more fun. It's still essentially a flawed game imho, but with the tedious grind removed from the equation it will at least provide me with a lot more enjoyment than the retail version ever did.
well where not all the same, but i woulden´t recommend a private server even if you think the lvling is slow on Retials, the only good resaon is if you can´t pay for retial...