Originally posted by KingofHartz There is alot to do , to much almost. Great game but its time for me to move on, 5.3 has been cool so far but im finding I have a short attention span nowadays especially since 5.3 hit. I think this is what it feels like when things feel to grindy.
Then maybe you should leave the Test Realm with 5.3 and play on a Live Realm with 5.2....
Exactly, why are you spending all of your time on the test realm if your attention span is already lacking?
5.2 only just went live recently.
Maybe he got bored with 5.2 and that is why he tried the Test Realms to see if things get better. His reason is pretty much the same reason I cancelled. Granted it probably wasn't anything wrong with 5.2 that killed it for me, but many people came in to 5.2 burned out on dailies, and more dailies doesn't really make it more exciting. Gated LFR meant bored people had even less to do outside of dailies. Each time the gates opened, the content was somehow underwhelming. We had already seen it, heard about it, read about it, waited for it, and then breezed through it without breaking a sweat. Maybe I just got good groups... As an altaholic the amount of time my main takes to keep up meant the death of alting for me, alting being the main form of burnout prevention for me, no surprise I got burned out. I am sure everyone has a different story and different opinons, but those are mine.
Originally posted by Vannor Originally posted by HomituWait, what happened to Thrall?
He's now the Earth-Warder of Azeroth. (he's taken the place of deathwing).
Right now, he's begun to retake the Horde, secretly. He may or may not become the next warchief though.. that's not set in stone. There are hints that he won't be.
Excluding Trolls of course, Garrosh is very popular with the races of the Horde.
However, in 5.4 Garrosh does something so horrible that everyone, Alliance and Horde, wants to kill Garrosh. Its also been hinted that whatever he does involves Thrall.
I'm fascinated by the increasingly disjointed timeline of WoW. Because WoW's focus is on the story more than the world, there is no real "present" state of Azeroth and events are not implemented consistently: there are some zones which get permanently altered across all levels by updates, there are some where different levels exist in parallel phases of the same map and there are some zones where an event occurs in lore which is not reflected in any way at all on the map.
Originally posted by HomituWait, what happened to Thrall?
He's now the Earth-Warder of Azeroth. (he's taken the place of deathwing).
Right now, he's begun to retake the Horde, secretly. He may or may not become the next warchief though.. that's not set in stone. There are hints that he won't be.
Excluding Trolls of course, Garrosh is very popular with the races of the Horde.
However, in 5.4 Garrosh does something so horrible that everyone, Alliance and Horde, wants to kill Garrosh. Its also been hinted that whatever he does involves Thrall.
Originally posted by Chrisbox This is the darkest, and most in depth expansion WoW has ever seen. People just love looking for a reason to hate on it in this forum, great job though blizzard.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
Originally posted by KingofHartz There is alot to do , to much almost. Great game but its time for me to move on, 5.3 has been cool so far but im finding I have a short attention span nowadays especially since 5.3 hit. I think this is what it feels like when things feel to grindy.
Then maybe you should leave the Test Realm with 5.3 and play on a Live Realm with 5.2....
Exactly, why are you spending all of your time on the test realm if your attention span is already lacking?
5.2 only just went live recently.
Maybe he got bored with 5.2 and that is why he tried the Test Realms to see if things get better. His reason is pretty much the same reason I cancelled. Granted it probably wasn't anything wrong with 5.2 that killed it for me, but many people came in to 5.2 burned out on dailies, and more dailies doesn't really make it more exciting. Gated LFR meant bored people had even less to do outside of dailies. Each time the gates opened, the content was somehow underwhelming. We had already seen it, heard about it, read about it, waited for it, and then breezed through it without breaking a sweat. Maybe I just got good groups... As an altaholic the amount of time my main takes to keep up meant the death of alting for me, alting being the main form of burnout prevention for me, no surprise I got burned out. I am sure everyone has a different story and different opinons, but those are mine.
Really? Maybe I am wrong, but his comment is worded as if he really though 5.3 was released (as the article incorrectly states), thus, hes not even playing WoW at all. He simply concocted a post to bash WoW, as many do here.
On a side note, if you breez through LFR, why not do the raids on normal? There is at least 10 times more challenge on normals. If you are board with all of the casual content in the game, it sounds like you need to get yourself into a guild, and start attemtping some of the harder stuff. People got too used to getting full endgame gear with almsot 0 effort. now that they dont have huge catch up mechanics, people have to actually go back to progressings, which obviously gets under the skin of casuals. A balance to that is LFR, but again, if its way too easy for you, and you seem to like raiding, why not actually raid?
Originally posted by KingofHartz There is alot to do , to much almost. Great game but its time for me to move on, 5.3 has been cool so far but im finding I have a short attention span nowadays especially since 5.3 hit. I think this is what it feels like when things feel to grindy.
Then maybe you should leave the Test Realm with 5.3 and play on a Live Realm with 5.2....
Exactly, why are you spending all of your time on the test realm if your attention span is already lacking?
5.2 only just went live recently.
Maybe he got bored with 5.2 and that is why he tried the Test Realms to see if things get better. His reason is pretty much the same reason I cancelled. Granted it probably wasn't anything wrong with 5.2 that killed it for me, but many people came in to 5.2 burned out on dailies, and more dailies doesn't really make it more exciting. Gated LFR meant bored people had even less to do outside of dailies. Each time the gates opened, the content was somehow underwhelming. We had already seen it, heard about it, read about it, waited for it, and then breezed through it without breaking a sweat. Maybe I just got good groups... As an altaholic the amount of time my main takes to keep up meant the death of alting for me, alting being the main form of burnout prevention for me, no surprise I got burned out. I am sure everyone has a different story and different opinons, but those are mine.
Really? Maybe I am wrong, but his comment is worded as if he really though 5.3 was released (as the article incorrectly states), thus, hes not even playing WoW at all, and simply concocted a post to bash WoW...
That's the first impression I got from him as well.
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Anyway, i think wow is in its best. I play almost since beta and this is the most complete version of wow i have ever experienced. i wont sit and say the reasons, but every one who isnt trolling, knows the truth. if someone gets bored after so many years (sometimes i get bored too) is one thing i understand, but the game itself is better than ever.
Originally posted by Manolios Anyway, i think wow is in its best. I play almost since beta and this is the most complete version of wow i have ever experienced. i wont sit and say the reasons, but every one who isnt trolling, knows the truth. if someone gets bored after so many years (sometimes i get bored too) is one thing that i can understand, but the game itself is better than ever.
Originally posted by Manolios Anyway, i think wow is in its best. I play almost since beta and this is the most complete version of wow i have ever experienced. i wont sit and say the reasons, but every one who isnt trolling, knows the truth. if someone gets bored after so many years (sometimes i get bored too) is one thing i understand, but the game itself is better than ever.
^This. love it or hate it, or even be burnt out by it, there is no doubt that its in its best state, especially for quality and amount of "stuff to do", as its ever been.
Originally posted by Theocritus I swear every time Blizzard has a patch they make major changes to the game.....I really don't know how so many people can stick with this game tbh.
Damn them for adding oodles of content, damn them to hell!
Major changes are only coming to PVP,. Other than that, the PVP changes are there to actually level the PVP playing field (a la GW2, Defiance etc), isnt this something this site has been bashing it for not doing for almost 2 years now?
So far we already have 3 made up WoW rage posts in this thread alone, raging for stuff that isnt even in the game (multiple complaing about rolling agaist othe rplayers in LFR, Ppl playing 5.3 on live servers and getting board with it (due to a typo in the origional article), I love it lol
Originally posted by Theocritus I swear every time Blizzard has a patch they make major changes to the game.....I really don't know how so many people can stick with this game tbh.
So we are lead to believe the alliance would help the rebels vs garrosh? Why exactly? What would the alliance gain by this? Imo it feels incredibly forced.
The alliance should and would probably just sit idle by and watch them crush eachother, then wipe out the winner.
Sigh.
Well Deathwings son stated that to prevent the future destruction of Azeroth the Horde and Alliance would have to united.. Garrosh is the last being on Azeroth that would ever allow that so its no surprise that the horde factions are turning on him. [mod edit]
But then again its probably just a smoke screen event to get our hopes up...
So we are lead to believe the alliance would help the rebels vs garrosh? Why exactly? What would the alliance gain by this? Imo it feels incredibly forced.
The alliance should and would probably just sit idle by and watch them crush eachother, then wipe out the winner.
Sigh.
Well Deathwings son stated that to prevent the future destruction of Azeroth the Horde and Alliance would have to united.. Garrosh is the last being on Azeroth that would ever allow that so its no surprise that the horde factions are turning on him. [mod edit]
But then again its probably just a smoke screen event to get our hopes up...
Anyone with a brain already KNEW this was coming also. Even before MoP was released people knew the horde hated Garrosh cause he's a dick. And they knew when MoP released it was kinda confirmed due to the whole inner darkness thing. Obviously the Horde/Alliance would have to put aside their differences and like you said, Garrosh would be the last person to agree to let bygones be bygones.
But yea, all that you said is completely true (though idk about cross faction raids) and its not a smokescreen. The signs were shown way back in Cataclysm that the horde would turn against Garrosh. I want Thrall back personally but who knows who the next leader for the horde will be.
All I noticed was some solo instances which involved hitting creatures with unnecesary extended hitpoint bars which eventually lead into alot of dailies. Easier to get VP gear now which I don't need. This is probly 5.2 i'm talking about I don't know, got 7 days free for a look. Still in some random causal guild spamming LFR which finishing up some achievements in my downtime. My netherweave bag AH monopoly is doing well and I always make 500-1000G extra profit off the AH. Been leveling afew alts too.
So we are lead to believe the alliance would help the rebels vs garrosh? Why exactly? What would the alliance gain by this? Imo it feels incredibly forced.
The alliance should and would probably just sit idle by and watch them crush eachother, then wipe out the winner.
Sigh.
It's human nature to instantly assume something without seeking out some sort of context. To think that one's assumptions and processes are flawless and then formulate something to make sense of the unkown. Though you can be assured that the Alliance have ample reason to want Garrosh dead. It all stems from multiple books as well as the entirety of the Cataclysm expansion... In addition to what happened in Pandaria in both the leveling up and the 5.1 and 5.2 patch content (both of which were awesome). They are at pure and bloody war. One would have to be a foolish leader indeed not to further aggrovate the other side by helping rebels (it happens all the time in real life and in history) to undermine your enemy. The best type of espionage is one that comes from within and knows all the strengths and weaknesses of your foe.
Not to mention that Garrosh ordered the magical bomb to be dropped that destroyed all of Theramore, killing every man woman and child in addition to Kirin Tor leaders. Add to that he's being implicated of associating with dark shamans, and you have a recipee for disaster no matter where you're coming from. War was basically declared when Theramore was dropped, and the tabards that were given to those who partook in it even have the phrase "remember Theramore!" etched on them if they're alliance.
So yeah... we're expected to believe the alliance, and especially King Wynn, wants Garrosh dead. If one actually knows something about the game, it would be odd if they just "didn't care" as was implied in this post.
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Maybe he got bored with 5.2 and that is why he tried the Test Realms to see if things get better. His reason is pretty much the same reason I cancelled. Granted it probably wasn't anything wrong with 5.2 that killed it for me, but many people came in to 5.2 burned out on dailies, and more dailies doesn't really make it more exciting. Gated LFR meant bored people had even less to do outside of dailies. Each time the gates opened, the content was somehow underwhelming. We had already seen it, heard about it, read about it, waited for it, and then breezed through it without breaking a sweat. Maybe I just got good groups... As an altaholic the amount of time my main takes to keep up meant the death of alting for me, alting being the main form of burnout prevention for me, no surprise I got burned out. I am sure everyone has a different story and different opinons, but those are mine.
Right now, he's begun to retake the Horde, secretly. He may or may not become the next warchief though.. that's not set in stone. There are hints that he won't be.
Excluding Trolls of course, Garrosh is very popular with the races of the Horde.
However, in 5.4 Garrosh does something so horrible that everyone, Alliance and Horde, wants to kill Garrosh. Its also been hinted that whatever he does involves Thrall.
I'm fascinated by the increasingly disjointed timeline of WoW. Because WoW's focus is on the story more than the world, there is no real "present" state of Azeroth and events are not implemented consistently: there are some zones which get permanently altered across all levels by updates, there are some where different levels exist in parallel phases of the same map and there are some zones where an event occurs in lore which is not reflected in any way at all on the map.
i'm guessing it's going to be a child murder...
this.
Self-pity imprisons us in the walls of our own self-absorption. The whole world shrinks down to the size of our problem, and the more we dwell on it, the smaller we are and the larger the problem seems to grow.
Really? Maybe I am wrong, but his comment is worded as if he really though 5.3 was released (as the article incorrectly states), thus, hes not even playing WoW at all. He simply concocted a post to bash WoW, as many do here.
On a side note, if you breez through LFR, why not do the raids on normal? There is at least 10 times more challenge on normals. If you are board with all of the casual content in the game, it sounds like you need to get yourself into a guild, and start attemtping some of the harder stuff. People got too used to getting full endgame gear with almsot 0 effort. now that they dont have huge catch up mechanics, people have to actually go back to progressings, which obviously gets under the skin of casuals. A balance to that is LFR, but again, if its way too easy for you, and you seem to like raiding, why not actually raid?
That's the first impression I got from him as well.
^This. love it or hate it, or even be burnt out by it, there is no doubt that its in its best state, especially for quality and amount of "stuff to do", as its ever been.
Damn them for adding oodles of content, damn them to hell!
Major changes are only coming to PVP,. Other than that, the PVP changes are there to actually level the PVP playing field (a la GW2, Defiance etc), isnt this something this site has been bashing it for not doing for almost 2 years now?
So far we already have 3 made up WoW rage posts in this thread alone, raging for stuff that isnt even in the game (multiple complaing about rolling agaist othe rplayers in LFR, Ppl playing 5.3 on live servers and getting board with it (due to a typo in the origional article), I love it lol
if you want tbh you do. you just have to admit it
Well Deathwings son stated that to prevent the future destruction of Azeroth the Horde and Alliance would have to united.. Garrosh is the last being on Azeroth that would ever allow that so its no surprise that the horde factions are turning on him. [mod edit]
But then again its probably just a smoke screen event to get our hopes up...
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Anyone with a brain already KNEW this was coming also. Even before MoP was released people knew the horde hated Garrosh cause he's a dick. And they knew when MoP released it was kinda confirmed due to the whole inner darkness thing. Obviously the Horde/Alliance would have to put aside their differences and like you said, Garrosh would be the last person to agree to let bygones be bygones.
But yea, all that you said is completely true (though idk about cross faction raids) and its not a smokescreen. The signs were shown way back in Cataclysm that the horde would turn against Garrosh. I want Thrall back personally but who knows who the next leader for the horde will be.
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All I noticed was some solo instances which involved hitting creatures with unnecesary extended hitpoint bars which eventually lead into alot of dailies. Easier to get VP gear now which I don't need. This is probly 5.2 i'm talking about I don't know, got 7 days free for a look. Still in some random causal guild spamming LFR which finishing up some achievements in my downtime. My netherweave bag AH monopoly is doing well and I always make 500-1000G extra profit off the AH. Been leveling afew alts too.
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It's human nature to instantly assume something without seeking out some sort of context. To think that one's assumptions and processes are flawless and then formulate something to make sense of the unkown. Though you can be assured that the Alliance have ample reason to want Garrosh dead. It all stems from multiple books as well as the entirety of the Cataclysm expansion... In addition to what happened in Pandaria in both the leveling up and the 5.1 and 5.2 patch content (both of which were awesome). They are at pure and bloody war. One would have to be a foolish leader indeed not to further aggrovate the other side by helping rebels (it happens all the time in real life and in history) to undermine your enemy. The best type of espionage is one that comes from within and knows all the strengths and weaknesses of your foe.
Not to mention that Garrosh ordered the magical bomb to be dropped that destroyed all of Theramore, killing every man woman and child in addition to Kirin Tor leaders. Add to that he's being implicated of associating with dark shamans, and you have a recipee for disaster no matter where you're coming from. War was basically declared when Theramore was dropped, and the tabards that were given to those who partook in it even have the phrase "remember Theramore!" etched on them if they're alliance.
So yeah... we're expected to believe the alliance, and especially King Wynn, wants Garrosh dead. If one actually knows something about the game, it would be odd if they just "didn't care" as was implied in this post.
Have played WoW since early BC. I've never 'liked' or 'disliked' WoW, it's always been a case of love it or hate it. Since Cataclysm the reasons to hate it have steadily increased, but the straw that finally broke the camel's back is the changes to PvP in 5.3
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