Originally posted by Everwest Then I hope you're not one of those who is always complaining about the state of MMO's today, because all you're going to get is more of the same.
You are working on the tenuously-supported belief that this Kickstarted MMO, or any other Kickstarted MMO will be completed and will meet your expectations of it.
Not at all. There's always a risk of failure. But there's a risk of dying horribly every time you get into a motor vehicle. Do you walk everywhere? Well, there's always a risk that you'll get shot or mugged while walking, too. It's a risky world out there, but it's fallacious to think that just because something could go wrong we should never try to do anything.
If a project doesn't interest you, don't back it. If you're so paranoid that you might pledge $10-50 and it might not be worth the money, don't back it (even though you probably waste more money than that in a month on other crap that disappoints you).
My issue is with the people that assume that Kickstarting any MMO is a sucker's game.
What is the chance of a automobile accident? What is the chance of kickstarter not producting, or producing something you don't like? In fact, how many funded kickstarter project has produced MMOs?
Of course i don't back any KS. Not only it is a sucker's game, you don't even have to back it to get the benefit. Just let the other suckers back it. If the game, by some miracles, happens .. buy it then. No risk at all.
Originally posted by Everwest Then I hope you're not one of those who is always complaining about the state of MMO's today, because all you're going to get is more of the same.
You are working on the tenuously-supported belief that this Kickstarted MMO, or any other Kickstarted MMO will be completed and will meet your expectations of it.
Not at all. There's always a risk of failure. But there's a risk of dying horribly every time you get into a motor vehicle. Do you walk everywhere? Well, there's always a risk that you'll get shot or mugged while walking, too. It's a risky world out there, but it's fallacious to think that just because something could go wrong we should never try to do anything.
If a project doesn't interest you, don't back it. If you're so paranoid that you might pledge $10-50 and it might not be worth the money, don't back it (even though you probably waste more money than that in a month on other crap that disappoints you).
My issue is with the people that assume that Kickstarting any MMO is a sucker's game.
What is the chance of a automobile accident? What is the chance of kickstarter not producting, or producing something you don't like? In fact, how many funded kickstarter project has produced MMOs?
Of course i don't back any KS. Not only it is a sucker's game, you don't even have to back it to get the benefit. Just let the other suckers back it. If the game, by some miracles, happens .. buy it then. No risk at all.
That's kind of a bleak outlook on life isnt it? If we as gamers dont show we believe in something then whats the chance of it ever being made? Think of it. If publishers nowdays are known for producing the same stuff, or im some cases less of it and are doing so in the hopes of faster money just because everyone keeps buying it.
What is the hope the industry will change? If you don't want to back it thats fine, but dont rail on others that do so, maybe we just want something different eh? Maybe we are sick of the business as usual? These guys arent publishers and they are speaking the language i have for 10 years, wanting the exact same things.
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
That's kind of a bleak outlook on life isnt it? If we as gamers dont show we believe in something then whats the chance of it ever being made? Think of it. If publishers nowdays are known for producing the same stuff, or im some cases less of it and are doing so in the hopes of faster money just because everyone keeps buying it.
What is the hope the industry will change? If you don't want to back it thats fine, but dont rail on others that do so, maybe we just want something different eh? Maybe we are sick of the business as usual? These guys arent publishers and they are speaking the language i have for 10 years, wanting the exact same things.
Very good, i will say. Lots of suckers are funding KS without me participating. Lots of indie development is going on without me believing in it.
You know what is the good news? I can just pick and choose the end result to have fun. With so many (indie included) trying, there bound to be some that is good entertainment.
And why would i hope that the industry will change? It works fine. It has provided me with lots of entertainment.
Don't get me wrong. I don't it mind it changing. So far, it is just producing more stuff for me to choose from. And I pay for entertainment, not to "back" anything.
That's kind of a bleak outlook on life isnt it? If we as gamers dont show we believe in something then whats the chance of it ever being made? Think of it. If publishers nowdays are known for producing the same stuff, or im some cases less of it and are doing so in the hopes of faster money just because everyone keeps buying it.
What is the hope the industry will change? If you don't want to back it thats fine, but dont rail on others that do so, maybe we just want something different eh? Maybe we are sick of the business as usual? These guys arent publishers and they are speaking the language i have for 10 years, wanting the exact same things.
Very good, i will say. Lots of suckers are funding KS without me participating. Lots of indie development is going on without me believing in it.
You know what is the good news? I can just pick and choose the end result to have fun. With so many (indie included) trying, there bound to be some that is good entertainment.
And why would i hope that the industry will change? It works fine. It has provided me with lots of entertainment.
Don't get me wrong. I don't it mind it changing. So far, it is just producing more stuff for me to choose from. And I pay for entertainment, not to "back" anything.
Fine by me, dont want to back it thats cool. Noted. thank you for your time and bumps.
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
That's kind of a bleak outlook on life isnt it? If we as gamers dont show we believe in something then whats the chance of it ever being made? Think of it. If publishers nowdays are known for producing the same stuff, or im some cases less of it and are doing so in the hopes of faster money just because everyone keeps buying it.
What is the hope the industry will change? If you don't want to back it thats fine, but dont rail on others that do so, maybe we just want something different eh? Maybe we are sick of the business as usual? These guys arent publishers and they are speaking the language i have for 10 years, wanting the exact same things.
Very good, i will say. Lots of suckers are funding KS without me participating. Lots of indie development is going on without me believing in it.
You know what is the good news? I can just pick and choose the end result to have fun. With so many (indie included) trying, there bound to be some that is good entertainment.
And why would i hope that the industry will change? It works fine. It has provided me with lots of entertainment.
Don't get me wrong. I don't it mind it changing. So far, it is just producing more stuff for me to choose from. And I pay for entertainment, not to "back" anything.
Fine by me, dont want to back it thats cool. Noted. thank you for your time and bumps.
I would like MINECRAFT mmo but the graphics need to be as good as something like TERA .
And no blocks everywhere that just ruins the realism . When I build things I want to see my character actually building things . I know it would be slow but that's what I want .
I would like MINECRAFT mmo but the graphics need to be as good as something like TERA .
And no blocks everywhere that just ruins the realism . When I build things I want to see my character actually building things . I know it would be slow but that's what I want .
Trust me when i say they'll have enough realism in the game. Still you have to get all those resources yourself anyway.
No need to ruin your fun over complete realism.
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
First of all, good basic concepts for a sandbox mmo, I applaud the Devs for that.
However... if I am going to play and pay for a sandbox mmo, which in many ways seeks to replicate some aspects of real life, then I also desire to see it LOOK as realistic as possible. Graphics Style of this is a fail for me. I do not play "cartoony" MMOs.
Feel free to pass my thoughts along to the Devs. Seems like a good bunch of People. Maybe some day they will make a MMO that utilizes a much more realistic graphics style.
(for me to enjoy the gameplay in a MMO, it must look as real as possible, and it must be set in a Virtual world that looks realistic. Designing great gameplay in a cartoon is not enough for me. Create a realistic graphics style sandbox MMO in a MASSIVE realistic looking virtual world, and THEN I will help financially support it thru a KS program. Nothing less.)
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What is the chance of a automobile accident? What is the chance of kickstarter not producting, or producing something you don't like? In fact, how many funded kickstarter project has produced MMOs?
Of course i don't back any KS. Not only it is a sucker's game, you don't even have to back it to get the benefit. Just let the other suckers back it. If the game, by some miracles, happens .. buy it then. No risk at all.
Your welcome man.
I have a feeling this thing is going to pass soon.
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
That's kind of a bleak outlook on life isnt it? If we as gamers dont show we believe in something then whats the chance of it ever being made? Think of it. If publishers nowdays are known for producing the same stuff, or im some cases less of it and are doing so in the hopes of faster money just because everyone keeps buying it.
What is the hope the industry will change? If you don't want to back it thats fine, but dont rail on others that do so, maybe we just want something different eh? Maybe we are sick of the business as usual? These guys arent publishers and they are speaking the language i have for 10 years, wanting the exact same things.
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
Very good, i will say. Lots of suckers are funding KS without me participating. Lots of indie development is going on without me believing in it.
You know what is the good news? I can just pick and choose the end result to have fun. With so many (indie included) trying, there bound to be some that is good entertainment.
And why would i hope that the industry will change? It works fine. It has provided me with lots of entertainment.
Don't get me wrong. I don't it mind it changing. So far, it is just producing more stuff for me to choose from. And I pay for entertainment, not to "back" anything.
Fine by me, dont want to back it thats cool. Noted. thank you for your time and bumps.
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
No problem. Glad to bump for more discussions.
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
That game TUGS is a bit budget for me .
I would like MINECRAFT mmo but the graphics need to be as good as something like TERA .
And no blocks everywhere that just ruins the realism . When I build things I want to see my character actually building things . I know it would be slow but that's what I want .
I used to TL;DR, but then I took a bullet point to the footnote.
Thank you for the feedback! 4 days left
Its going to make it.
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
Trust me when i say they'll have enough realism in the game.
Still you have to get all those resources yourself anyway.
No need to ruin your fun over complete realism.
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
Someone just dropped 10k in like a min... its the final countdown!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jK-NcRmVcw
5k to go! Lolz....
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
Funded! As of 5/28/13 at 3:17PM (central)
WOOOOOO!!! nice job guys! Thanks to all who participated!
"Do not fret! Your captain is about to enter Valhalla!" - General Beatrix of Alexandria
"The acquisition of knowledge is of use to the intellect, for nothing can be loved or hated without first being known." - Leo da Vinci
First of all, good basic concepts for a sandbox mmo, I applaud the Devs for that.
However... if I am going to play and pay for a sandbox mmo, which in many ways seeks to replicate some aspects of real life, then I also desire to see it LOOK as realistic as possible. Graphics Style of this is a fail for me. I do not play "cartoony" MMOs.
Feel free to pass my thoughts along to the Devs. Seems like a good bunch of People. Maybe some day they will make a MMO that utilizes a much more realistic graphics style.
(for me to enjoy the gameplay in a MMO, it must look as real as possible, and it must be set in a Virtual world that looks realistic. Designing great gameplay in a cartoon is not enough for me. Create a realistic graphics style sandbox MMO in a MASSIVE realistic looking virtual world, and THEN I will help financially support it thru a KS program. Nothing less.)
Congrats! Even though this doesn't seem like something I'd be interested in, nice to see indie projects being funded for all sorts of gamers.