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7 Days of Free Game Time..Day 1
Heafstagg
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So I had 7 days of free game time. I hop into the game on my old level 85 DK. Full tanking raiding gear on from the last xpac still. I que for a dungeon and I get kicked before we even get to the first boss. Why? Because 170k Hp wasnt good enough for the first instance, which I've ran a few times before on my druid before I left.
Now, blizzard keeps losing subs and they wonder why. While the gameplay being dumbed down is one thing, but blizzards complete lack of control for the douchery of the community has definitely sealed the deal for many people to quit playing this game. I left last time because of this very issue. I give it another chance only for it to be thrown in my face in the FIRST 5 MINUTES. Lol. Now you might say that there is nothing they can do, but of course there is. You think with all the turds running around in this game would be acting the way they do if they had some consequences for their actions? Probably not.
I left last time because of the lack of action from the blizzard customer service action of one individual. We had an argument. I told him we wouldn't agree and told him to put me on ignore and I would do the same to him. He proceeded to log onto 14 different toons from 2 accounts to berate me. The words he was using was borderline sociopathic. I worked in a casino for 10 years and I've been called my fair share of names, but this was something else. Yet, the very next day and every day afterwards, I saw him playing. Someone told me that he had only recieved a warning. Now if that isn't encouraging such behaviour I dont know what else it could be.
Yes it's a rant, no I'm not crying myself to sleep. It was just a thought that occurred to me before deciding to go to sleep.
TL;DR: Blizzard, shape up your rotten community with some more abrasive action. You lose more paying costumers from inaction from abuse than you do from keeping the rotten apples.
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The ships sinking they will go free to play (add floaties) and try to stay above water a little longer.
Either way we shall all look back one day and say " wow that really wasn't a good game just the less stinky of all turds in the toilet."
Wrong - how hard can it be hand out a short ban for this? Also how hard can it be to give you an option to block accounts instead of chars?
OP is right - a lack of punishment creates a toxic community.
no not true, it was one of the stinkiest ships, shortly after the first expansion, it kept getting dumber and dumber, since ppl complained so much it became easier and easier to get to max lvl, they kept nerfing classes, a socail game became ani social.
if you ask me, WoW went Full Retard, and everyone knows you never go full retard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wVagQ_LVd4
It comes with the Gear Grind Addiction that WOW really is.
You're a good boy when you can help them with attaining it, if not: "GET OUT OF MY FACE YOU ARE OF NO USE TO ME EMORRRRRRRRAGE!"
Think that sums out the majority of that community, mind you I post majority, not all, because there are some genuine good people playing that game.
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
Yeah Dakeru, that was my line of thinking as well. I would have been just as satisfied for the account block.
The cross server problems they opened up with the optional name/sex/class changes and huge population increases made this worse.
This is one of the main reasons I left the game (I'd always hop back into WoW after taking breaks because it was still fun) but now the community is so bad I wouldn't even play it for free if it was offered.
The OP makes a valid point.
Oh Blizzard could have done more then /ignore and never group with that guy again.
Going to praise Anet, report a player for foul langauge /3day ban incomming.
The WoW community is rotting from top to bottom.
They never even tried to tone it down.
They made it worse and worse.
excuse me could ou clean up the floor where you walked i dont want the place geting infected with your elitism,
if he was haveing issue after being gone for a bit maybe a bit of advice, and or help instead of a kick. not evryone is super leet at all times, and it is a killjoy for both side when this happens.
im sorry but you type of aditude is the worst there is in modern MMO gameing, if people want a perect run with exact builds and gear and robot like effciency they need to form a team and do it not pull this crap in a bloody, random cue.
F2P may be the way of the future, but ya know they dont make them like they used to
Proper Grammer & spelling are extra, corrections will be LOL at.
They should divide pug options to "players who do everything for progression" and "players who play for fun".
Some ppl take gaming too seriously.
"going into arguments with idiots is a lost cause, it requires you to stoop down to their level and you can't win"
Hmm i remember getting a 24hr ban in vanila for using an 'excessive swear word' in a rebuttal... Guess that shit has sailed..
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They can not ban people for not wanting to play with someone. No matter how much is pisses people off it's just a basic human right.
The "Toxic" community is just part of the MMO culture these days. I'm not sure how any developer, including Blizzard, can really combat this problem. The simple answer seems to be telling these non-toxic players to simply run stuff with friends/guild only, but in truth that just renders the time saving features these games have, such as LFR/LFD etc useless.
It is just as if the dev's accept if you want to use these feature of their game, then you'll be leaving yourself open to the toxic community & you just have to accept that fact, instead of the devs trying to discourage the behavior in the first place. Then this creates the other problem where these tools become pretty much mandatory to actually play the game & see the content, forcing players to interact with this toxic community while all the time the devs simply hide behind the lie that the feature is "optional".
In the OP's scenario, he's level 85. Could he really just spam trade to form a party to avoid using the lfd? Lets be real here, that just would not work. No one would join. You'd be hard pressed to get that to happen at 90 these days. If you want to do dungeons, you pretty much have to use lfd.
It's a shame, but like I said, I don't think there is an easy fix from developers unless they take a hard-line account ban/ip block system or something that punishes bad behavior & rewards good. Even a wall of shame wouldn't work, as the people in the toxic community tend to thrive off of the negative acts they do. A wall of shame would just encourage them.
There is a better option than 7 days of free wow. ''RIFT''.
Very good game and greatly improved with the Storm Legion expansion. Much better than it was, when most ppl left it.
Free server transfer once a week (instead of blizz's 20$ per char).
Fast content updates / patches. Faster than most of others mmo's and MUCH faster than wow. Patches includes many times whole new areas, plus new events, world bosses etc. Not only new dailies and quest hubs like wow, in most cases.
Great free to play model (starting at 12-6). As a past sub you get the whole content and everything else game offers. As a free user you get again whole content with the exception of -2 starting inventory bags and -1 out of 9 souls (the 1 that comes with Storm Legion expansion).
I don't want to discuss the game itself in comparison to wow, because it depends the player, but IMO is superior in many aspects anyway.
So all in all i think RIFT is a better choice, considering that wow needs a sub too.
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They can not ban people for not wanting to play with someone. No matter how much is pisses people off it's just a basic human right.
No..but they did implement an enabler to 'eject' people rather than removing themselves from the situation.
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I was refering to the guy who used 14 different chars to bypass OP's blocks and harrass him.
Also I have yet to see a law such as: "It is your basic human right to kick whoever you want."
These type of people are not exclusive to WoW. I've found them in every game I've ever played and heck, even in real life. Anyone blaming Blizzard for the actions of people or blaming anyone but those people for that matter need to refocus their ire.
is it really blizzards fault that you were kicked from a dungeon? nope, it's the people in the group. they didn't even give you a chance to tank. but yeah...i don't think they wanted people to just hop in dungeon finder and tank their way to 90 without questing for some gear. imo, I wouldn't even begin to tank new expansions if i hadn't played since cataclysm. o.o
I had 7 tanks at the end of Cata all epic geared. My skill wasn't the issue. We had 2 pulls before the boss room both of which I didn't lose aggro. I tanked in WoW for 6 years, you don't forget how to tank. Especially considering how pathetically easy it's become to tank over the years. But, this is besides the point I was making. Yes they can make a difference in their community, they just refuse to because they don't want to lose subscriptions from the backlash of people quitting if they get a 24 ban for harrassment. Instead they don't realize that inaction causes the opposite effect on the people that must deal with that kind of crap causing them to leave instead, essentially bullying people out of the game.
Not that I care too much one way or another, it was just another reminder for me that some things change and most things don't. If blizzard wants to keep up with the way their going that's fine, I'll just play other games. I'm not going to lose sleep over it.
Then i dont know what you did wrong, and yes i agree with you about blizz and WoW is losing subs already at quite a consistent rate, iirc they used to have over 14mil subs and now they're down to 8mil but aside from the one time i got banned ive never had problems with the support really so i doubt that's why, the game is jus getting old.
The question is how? I do not condone the behaviour, but seriously, how?
Give them a warning...they do that already
Ban them for a day or two.......guy or gal won't change from being an idiot overnight just because they couldn't play for a few days, in fact it would encourage some to see what they could get away with before they get a ban
Kick them from the game altogether?!? Firstly it makes no commercial sense to reduce your own paying customer base and secondly where do you set the bar for that? Do you ban someone because someone didn't like the fact they were kicked from a dungeon by them.....do you ban them for talking in a way that is offensive to some but every day language to others....you would expect them to be kicked for racial or religious hatred for example, but again who defines what is offensive in those terms as well. It just isn't that clear cut!
The overall point is that in an ideal world we wouldn't have to deal with idiots, but unfortunately it isn't an ideal world and idiots are a day to day reality in almost every game as in real life and as much as it is nice to say "just deal with it", it really isn't that easy of a matter to deal with.
It must be Thursday, i never could get the hang of Thursdays.
I couldn't agree more but sadly, I believe being harsher with behavioral rules would make them lose even more $$$ and ship is already sinking, so Blizzard will not do it no matter if its ethical. LFG, LFR and cross-realm communities had some benefits but also opened up many cans of worms for verbal harassment and general all round poor behavior. I've seen some extreme verbal abuse over the years and the most these idiots wseem to get is a 24-72 hour ban because they always inevitably come back. This one particular troll on my server laughs it off and just uses trial account to continue chatting to his friends until his ban expires. It's pretty pathetic. No wonder so many people simply ignore instead of report.