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SWTOR had the best combat of any MMO since WoW.
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WoW was good because of it's fast ability response, depth in groups and novelty to many. SWTOR was sluggish, shallow and old news.
The best combat IMO is between GW2 and Neverwinter. GW2 would be perfect with aimed attacks and more abilities. Tab-targeting and AoE spam are dead, let's bury them.
SWTOR has best combat since WoW?! Why do I feel like you are trolling?
i have to say that Age of Conan (along with GW2) have my two favorite combat systems ever. AoC combat is just fantastic.
i think Neverwinter had a good combat when it wasnt rooted in place. Once they made my wizard root in place they killed the combat. I love GW2 combat, it doesnt need tab for anything and my mouse is still free so i can do whatever i want with it.
Most of what he has said is how he feels I believe. I don't think he was trying to be sarcastic or anything. He has a lot of good points about the game.
The actual character movement is fast and responsive. I think with that and the recent f2p format, it has picked up quite a few new followers. I started about a week ago again and there are a lot of people having a good time.
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It was not a terrible game.
For a game with wow-style combat and an EXTREMELY linear hallway of a storyline it does a good job at that.
There is nothing about the combat though that makes it objectively better or "the best." Like much of the game it was a rehash of what we have seen many times over already. If someone likes WOW combat and the classes in WOW then ya, SWTOR combat and its classes are great.
The notion though that the success of SWTOR and failure of GW2 is supposed to somehow be proof that SWTOR has better combat though is pretty much laughable.
Of the things I liked about SWToR, the combat was definitely not one of them. It was fast paced enough, but it was too similar to WoW. Some of the skills worked the same way. Playing my Jedi felt like playing my Priest in WoW.
I suppose if I had been looking for WoW, but with Star Wars, I would have been happy with it, but I was hoping for something with a little more of a Star Wars feel instead of a WoW feel.
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I would say the combat was visually nice and had great sound design, but that's just the Star Wars fan in me. The actual "combat" was mostly run of the mill trinity crap. I would like to add though that besides WoW, SWTOR is the only other trinity game I enjoyed PVP'ing with a tank class and spec.
When looking back over all of the games I played though, I would say no combat is more visceral, satisfying, intense, and skill based than Planetside 2. That's my opinion and I'm sticking to it!
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have you ever tried wow? swtor combat is much more clicky
in wow i can take Down a mob with 3-4 clicks,,that wont get you very far in swtor
combine that with a very high mob density, and swtor has the player hacking his way forward,
just like in a thick jungle
i dont know, how well GW2 is doing, but i doubt theyre failing as hard, as swtor
Oh okay so now anything that's not GW2 is "trinity crap". So GW2 has made most every other MMO ever made obsolete, wow how delusional can one be. Guild Wars 2, beautiful game world, but boring combat, not enough choices, and most are rehashed between classes and weapons. I honestly think there might be more wrong with GW2 then there was with SWTOR. I can honestly say I had more fun playing SWTOR in almost every aspect then playing GW2.
Weird, I didn't mention GW2 anywhere in my post. Maybe read again where I'm praising Planetside 2's combat?
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I prefer action combat , PSO and PSU did it very well indeed. I hate tab targeting , hence why I use a 360 controller to play SWTOR. It helps a lot and almost turns the game into an action combat MMO ( almost ).
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How does that work?
I suppose you have a bunch of buttons to map to various hotkeys and such. I'm curious how this turns SWTOR into an action combat game? The only thing to change is the input device. It's still "tab" targeting, although it's now "A-button" targeting, etc, instead of tab.
Not trolling you, I'm curious what you mean (I've never played a computer MMORPG with a console game controller).
You said you hate tab targeting, but how does a new input device change what you hate?
My background, I don't mind tab targeting at all, actually I prefer it, over twitch games. GW2 was a hybrid, which worked OK for solo strategies I suppose .. but SWTOR is more interesting than GW2, and whatever GW2 had to offer couldn't save it from a bland story, and bland goals.
Can you expand on what you mean with the controller?
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it hasn't worked?
you just mentioned how you thought PS2 was good.
it was action and streamlined.
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Cmon! Maybe for Korean market but not for western. This Kung Fu flying combat is relic from 80s, to much hentai cartoon
Agree here. I never had a problem with the combat, I think it is fun. I don't fully understand all the complaints.
There are many other issues with SWTOR that get glossed over, like the horrid game engine, or as you mentioned linearity. Or the lack of basic functions like sitting in chairs when socializing. Or missing "real" space combat, or KotOR card games (Sabbak, Pazzak).
The horrible game engine tops any complaint I have by a factor of 10, maybe 20. No world PVP? Everything is instanced, even common areas? That's my #1.
Unhappy with tab targeting combat and raids with tab targeting? ... give me a break. Play another game.
Combat is fine. As to whether it's better than WoW .. sure .. but not the best available. Other games do it better, but those games lack features in other areas, all the same. My real complaint here is that there is no world PVP, factions are separated into their own instances so they cannot engage in PVP (Zero chance, separated), and the planets that do allow PVP offer crappy rewards to the victor - the xp for killing a trash mob, really??
Even on a PVP server, PVP is meaningless .. There would be a valid complaint, if the OP wanted to start a new thread about useless PVP servers.
Or that I had to do some kind of ridiculous roll and duck for cover (even if there wasn't any) in order to use half my skills. Fantastic combat.
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I wouldn't get bent out of shape. I think people who hate tab-targeting never actually did any high end raiding, where success depended on true skill.
The younger generation prefers instant gratification via control pad, hence all the complaints. Up, Down, Left, Right and a few buttons.
Meanwhile, in a MMORPG, as soon as they get in a raid situation where tab doesn't work and precision clicks are needed instead, along with on-the-fly ability usage, suddenly, "tab targeting sucks". Because yeah, hitting tab means you fail your raid group. :P
Everyone in your raid dies, and you say, "Tab targeting sucks!" .. hehe
I'll state that I much prefer action combat or even a hybrid combat like GW2 over standard mmo combat.
But as far as that standard tab target mmo combat goes, I thought SWTOR was pretty decent. I really liked some of the animations, especially the force users. The one big negative for me though was the ability delay.