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I have spoken with a lot of older gamers and I have found out that there probably was a golden era of online gaming from the launch of Ultima Online and it seems to have ended with the launch of World of Warcraft.
So what do you older gamers think... will EQN bring back the golden days of online gaming?
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I would be able to reply to your question atm, but i cant, we need to wait to know more news about the game.
Howether i think that SOE have the ability in order to do that, if it will return to the roots of the genre.
MMO need to become MMORPG again, more difficult, more challenging, more complex.
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-Karg, Ogryn Bone'ead.
It will be the start of a new generation in gaming along with
WIldstar
ArcheAge
and Shroud of the Avatar
This new crop of game is finally turning the page and showing us there can be a common link between old and new, first person and third, sandbox and themepark, skill based and level cap, raid progression and crafter oriented, PvP and PvE.
We are seeing a bit of what dragged us into gaming so long ago. A few companies of talented people that are re-thinking the way games work and going back to some of the principles of old, while throwing out certain things that are outdated or don't work anymore.
'So what do you older gamers think... will EQN bring back the golden days of online gaming?'
The hype is getting out of control for this game. By the way i thought GW2 was the 'one' to bring a golden era to online gaming?
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney
No matter how cynical you become, its never enough to keep up - Lily Tomlin
It will only succeed if it is like Pre-Trammel Ultima, Darkfall or EvE. No need for more safemode "please everyone" gameplay.
Got enough of that playstyle already. Time for change
It's like that for every new MMO on this site. Where you been?
Philosophy of MMO Game Design
I wouldn't say every new MMO.
"The problem is that the hardcore folks always want the same thing: 'We want exactly what you gave us before, but it has to be completely different.'
-Jesse Schell
"Online gamers are the most ludicrously entitled beings since Caligula made his horse a senator, and at least the horse never said anything stupid."
-Luke McKinney
Totally agree. The hype train needs to slow down. Has there even been a gameplay video released? I mean dam, slow the roll before the expectations are so high that no matter what they release will be deemed not good enough by this community.
GW2 was supposed to bring something different therefore a new era of gaming. But it just bought different, good, but different.
I'm sorry but Guild Wars 2 is not THE online game that everyone is talking about even people who doesn't play online games.
EverQuest was that game once... I found some old newspaper articles were they called it ''EverCrack''
Yes and No. What makes the "Golden Age of Mmos" is very subjective as such for some it will be No, for some Yes and for some they will say there never was a golden age while yet others will say we are still in it.
It's all a matter of perspective.
Brenics ~ Just to point out I do believe Chris Roberts is going down as the man who cheated backers and took down crowdfunding for gaming.
Well me been 41 of age and one who has played tons of MMos in the past before it was this hyped up and pure let down once the game is released I have to say yes there was a pure golden age of MMos and yes I have to say it was because of such games as EQ, Shadowbane, DAoC, UA and even SWG (pre NGE). However the game industry let us down big time by not even listening to players over the years. What I mean by this is you would think one of these companies would actually do studies and test out the best things not just with their past history of their own games but with other games too.
I would kind of disagree with you on a point though. World of Warcraft was not the ending of the Golden Age however it was the beginning. Blizzard (in my opinion) just tried and with success to gain the massives by dumbing their already dumb game down and watered the industry with trash. It was not a complicated game in the first place but they managed to really make the MMo industry a living joke.
You know to be honest EQN does not even have to be a whole new game. I am very sure if SOE kept the same ideals of EQ and EQ2 and placed those ideal within EQN the game would be so great it would bring back players who left the industry years ago. SOE you had it there with those two games you didn't loose people because of it. I believe it was a factor of gaming graphics (sometimes they just got old and dated).
Crafting, gameplay and overall social ablities within those games were well done.
I'm sure WoW has EQ beat if we're speaking in those terms.
This is done by $oe they take great franchises and ruin them one way or another. It will take a new development company with sound backing from a AAA production company. Most AAA companies are too set in their way to make the changes players really want. Those companies are after the casuals whom ruined the genre imho.
What $oe might do is prop open the door for sandbox mmorpgs to become mainstream instead of Indie strictly.
MurderHerd
Comment makes me doubt you actually played EQ. EQ was all about 1) Getting to 50. 2) Collecting those rares like FBSS, SMR, GEB, Yak, SC, etc. Oh and 3 which was the most important. Raising Alcohol Tolerance.
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Once upon a time Sony was the Gold Standard of MMO's... Lately what they have produced makes me fear for the quality of any future SoE effort.
Regardless, nothing can be said one way or the other yet. Right now a few scattered quotes and a single screenshot is all we would have to attempt to form an opinion with.
Best MMO experiences : EQ(PvE), DAoC(PvP), WoW(total package) LOTRO (worldfeel) GW2 (Artstyle and animations and worlddesign) SWTOR (Story immersion) TSW (story) ESO (character advancement)
Actually, this is a very interesting question. Right now, I don't know if I have enough information to make an educated vote.
As one of the "older gamers", I think I would have to include WoW in any Golden Age discussion. After all, WoW broke out of the gaming niche and was parodied in South Park long before The Simpsons had an EverQuest parody. I would expect another title that revolutionizes the genre to have similar appeal in popular culture. And for that to happen, any new game would need to be sufficiently different from previous generations so that it wouldn't be seen as 'just another MMO game', and it will need some kind of mass following -- a huge player base similar to WoW or the longevity of EQ. I don't know if EQN will deliver enough to distinguish itself in the non-gaming community.
I believe that I, along with most everyone else on this forum, hope that EQN will usher in a new golden era. There are lots of hurdles that it must navigate, and I don't really know if it will deliver. It already seems that just in the gaming community, the expectations are high, which will leave many people disappointed, which will also work against the golden age hypothesis.
And 'Older gamer"? Really? I prefer "experienced gamer" or even "highly-leveled gamer".
Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.
I played EQ for about 11 years, and still do. EQ might have been about only for loot for you, for me it was about the community.
I never liked loot hos in EQ either.