The world doesn't need any more WoW, GW2, or SWToR. I really miss UO and all the sandbox freedom. Please Sony invent something different! If EQN flops, then I bet no other big company will take the risk to invest on MMORPG.
"Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi, your our only hope"
No he wasn't in that context & neither is EQN in this context. Most likely the next big MMO will come from an Independant developer, taking risks and innovating as a result.
No way this game is the last hope of mmo's. One day a game created or ported to work with VR (virtual reality) will be made. soon i hope with Oculus leading the charge. and this year alone has seen what 5 or more new game engines for developers, thats alot of hope for the future. its an exciting time for mmo's and other genres. And.... and internet providers are expanding gigbit internet further and further cheaper and cheaper, that means more players can get together with out mass amounts of lag.
who knows Eqn could be the first step to something great.
i only wish i was a kid again or just born today, so i could one day see mmo's like fiction, Sao .hack
have hope my friend without supply and demand we wont have a great mmo in the future. so keep demanding till they supply, then get greedy and ask for more.
The world doesn't need any more WoW, GW2, or SWToR. I really miss UO and all the sandbox freedom.
Please Sony invent something different! If EQN flops, then I bet no other big company will take the risk to invest on MMORPG.
EQ Next is simply the start of a new batch of gaming. Not the last hope by any stretch.
Here is something to think about.
People have been donating since before you or I were born to various causes. Some of them crap. Others really good causes. The point here is that they felt passionate enough about something that they gave hard earned money to support the cause.
Flash forward to today and gaming. Players may not have the time or the knowledge to create a game they want to see come to life. However they do have some extra cash for a cause.
This is where crowd funded games start happening and developers start getting enough money to create something they wanted to and had the knowledge and time to, but not the money.
Shroud of the Avatar is a good example of this. It is obviously in early alpha now, but Richard Garriott (the creator of Ultima Online) is hard at work on this game and gathered a rather large some of money from gamers via crowd funding to get the money to be able to put alot more features into the game.
Basically this new way of doing things may actually push the larger companies to have to actually create new and deep worlds of their own that are not cookie cutter.
Originally posted by Nemesis7884 i have the feeling that all the people that build all there hopes around everquest next are up for a bitter disappointment, but we'll see
Same here and only because almost every other MMO hyped up to be the second coming has failed to do so. I'm predicting the same for eqn. It is soe after all.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what
it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience
because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in
the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you
playing an MMORPG?"
Its funny because GW2 and just about every other AAA title that has come out over the last year or two has been someones last hope for MMO's. No one game will save the industry, destroy the industry or do anything other than cause some people to make or lose money and cause some number of people some amount of entertainment for some amount of time.
Even if the industry absolutely cratered to the point that less than a million people were playing MMO's worldwide that would still do nothing to stop the next great game from coming out of someone's garage at some point in time. It would just make that person or group that much more money as they had no competition.
I will say that the industry as a whole for me is pretty dead with no prospects in the near term. I am currently playing Rift at the moment because its free with a decent f2p model. Before it went free I had not played an MMO for about 6 months. This coming from someone who is finally making a good income(me) and would be willing to spend up to $40 a month on a game if it was good enough to deserve that kind of expenditure. Right now I am in that crowd of MMO players that is not being served by any gaming company - too bad for them.
the majority of mmo playerbase are a fickle lost cause that don't return the original investments.
until these guys gtfo there wont be any big budget mmo's.
The hell are you smoking? There are tons of AAA MMORPGs that launch every year. There are many major projects planned for this year along with tons of big AAA titles in the works already for 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017 releases.
You guys are really too much doom and gloom. It's gone beyond general pessimism and drifted into emo-delusions on an apocalyptic scale.
Pretty much what Gallus said. You guys are hilarious. The MMO market is a billion dollar industry that has only seen growth thus far. Sure, the subscription based is dying and free to play is now the prefer model, but that doesn't mean a stop to quality games being made. If anything, the market is becoming more saturated, causing more competition amongst companies.
If you actually worked in the PC MMO market, you'd be a lot more afraid of the mobile gaming industry then anything.
Pretty much what Gallus said. You guys are hilarious. The MMO market is a billion dollar industry that has only seen growth thus far. Sure, the subscription based is dying and free to play is now the prefer model, but that doesn't mean a stop to quality games being made. If anything, the market is becoming more saturated, causing more competition amongst companies.
If you actually worked in the PC MMO market, you'd be a lot more afraid of the mobile gaming industry then anything.
i only wish i was a kid again or just born today, so i could one day see mmo's like fiction, Sao .hack
Lol yeah gotta envy kids these days . When I was a kid spaces invaders and pacman was the best games around but only playable in arcades.
By the time they reach 40+ the games could be beyond comprehension .
HOWEVER , in 15 years MMO's haven't really come very far . Here we have EQNext and people actually want it to be EQ1 with better graphics . And they would be happy with that .
Im really hoping that EQN is all we hope it will be ,but if it isn't im still going to hold out for black desert with what looks to be amazing graphics player housing which you can open as a shop and the pvp which looks somewhat manic but fun .
i only wish i was a kid again or just born today, so i could one day see mmo's like fiction, Sao .hack
Lol yeah gotta envy kids these days . When I was a kid spaces invaders and pacman was the best games around but only playable in arcades.
By the time they reach 40+ the games could be beyond comprehension .
HOWEVER , in 15 years MMO's haven't really come very far . Here we have EQNext and people actually want it to be EQ1 with better graphics . And they would be happy with that .
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"Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi, your our only hope"No he wasn't in that context & neither is EQN in this context.
Most likely the next big MMO will come from an Independant developer, taking risks and innovating as a result.
No way this game is the last hope of mmo's. One day a game created or ported to work with VR (virtual reality) will be made. soon i hope with Oculus leading the charge. and this year alone has seen what 5 or more new game engines for developers, thats alot of hope for the future. its an exciting time for mmo's and other genres. And.... and internet providers are expanding gigbit internet further and further cheaper and cheaper, that means more players can get together with out mass amounts of lag.
who knows Eqn could be the first step to something great.
i only wish i was a kid again or just born today, so i could one day see mmo's like fiction, Sao .hack
have hope my friend without supply and demand we wont have a great mmo in the future. so keep demanding till they supply, then get greedy and ask for more.
EQ Next is simply the start of a new batch of gaming. Not the last hope by any stretch.
Here is something to think about.
People have been donating since before you or I were born to various causes. Some of them crap. Others really good causes. The point here is that they felt passionate enough about something that they gave hard earned money to support the cause.
Flash forward to today and gaming. Players may not have the time or the knowledge to create a game they want to see come to life. However they do have some extra cash for a cause.
This is where crowd funded games start happening and developers start getting enough money to create something they wanted to and had the knowledge and time to, but not the money.
Shroud of the Avatar is a good example of this. It is obviously in early alpha now, but Richard Garriott (the creator of Ultima Online) is hard at work on this game and gathered a rather large some of money from gamers via crowd funding to get the money to be able to put alot more features into the game.
Basically this new way of doing things may actually push the larger companies to have to actually create new and deep worlds of their own that are not cookie cutter.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
Same here and only because almost every other MMO hyped up to be the second coming has failed to do so. I'm predicting the same for eqn. It is soe after all.
Is a man not entitled to the herp of his derp?
Remember, I live in a world where juggalos and yugioh players are real things.
What I left myself open for was episodes 1 - 3.
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Kyleran: "Now there's the real trick, learning to accept and enjoy a game for what it offers rather than pass on what might be a great playing experience because it lacks a few features you prefer."
John Henry Newman: "A man would do nothing if he waited until he could do it so well that no one could find fault."
FreddyNoNose: "A good game needs no defense; a bad game has no defense." "Easily digested content is just as easily forgotten."
LacedOpium: "So the question that begs to be asked is, if you are not interested in the game mechanics that define the MMORPG genre, then why are you playing an MMORPG?"
Its funny because GW2 and just about every other AAA title that has come out over the last year or two has been someones last hope for MMO's. No one game will save the industry, destroy the industry or do anything other than cause some people to make or lose money and cause some number of people some amount of entertainment for some amount of time.
Even if the industry absolutely cratered to the point that less than a million people were playing MMO's worldwide that would still do nothing to stop the next great game from coming out of someone's garage at some point in time. It would just make that person or group that much more money as they had no competition.
I will say that the industry as a whole for me is pretty dead with no prospects in the near term. I am currently playing Rift at the moment because its free with a decent f2p model. Before it went free I had not played an MMO for about 6 months. This coming from someone who is finally making a good income(me) and would be willing to spend up to $40 a month on a game if it was good enough to deserve that kind of expenditure. Right now I am in that crowd of MMO players that is not being served by any gaming company - too bad for them.
The hell are you smoking? There are tons of AAA MMORPGs that launch every year. There are many major projects planned for this year along with tons of big AAA titles in the works already for 2014, 2015, 2016 and 2017 releases.
You guys are really too much doom and gloom. It's gone beyond general pessimism and drifted into emo-delusions on an apocalyptic scale.
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Pretty much what Gallus said. You guys are hilarious. The MMO market is a billion dollar industry that has only seen growth thus far. Sure, the subscription based is dying and free to play is now the prefer model, but that doesn't mean a stop to quality games being made. If anything, the market is becoming more saturated, causing more competition amongst companies.
If you actually worked in the PC MMO market, you'd be a lot more afraid of the mobile gaming industry then anything.
Legends of Kesmai, UO, EQ, AO, DAoC, AC, SB, RO, SWG, EVE, EQ2, CoH, GW, VG:SOH, WAR, Aion, DF, CO, MO, DN, Tera, SWTOR, RO2, DP, GW2, PS2, BnS, NW, FF:XIV, ESO, EQ:NL
Lol yeah gotta envy kids these days . When I was a kid spaces invaders and pacman was the best games around but only playable in arcades.
By the time they reach 40+ the games could be beyond comprehension .
HOWEVER , in 15 years MMO's haven't really come very far . Here we have EQNext and people actually want it to be EQ1 with better graphics . And they would be happy with that .
Philosophy of MMO Game Design
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
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Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/I would assume so. I am sure there are many people who no longer look forward to any new MMOs.
A lot of new MMORPG's give me the same feeling as changing a kids diaper, sometimes I just can't believe how much crap there is.
"classification of games into MMOs is not by rational reasoning" - nariusseldon
Love Minecraft. And check out my Youtube channel OhCanadaGamer
Try a MUD today at http://www.mudconnect.com/Philosophy of MMO Game Design