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so what's the story with permadeath?

GaladournGaladourn Member RarePosts: 1,813
in EverQuest Next

what's this "slipped secret"?

https://www.facebook.com/everquestnext

 

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  • BearKnightBearKnight Member CommonPosts: 461
    Originally posted by Galadourn

    what's this "slipped secret"?

    https://www.facebook.com/everquestnext

     

    "Hardcore" servers for EQN that are inspired by the Diablo franchise.

     

    I will say nothing moe :3

  • WaterlilyWaterlily Member UncommonPosts: 3,105
    Smedley probably drew the troll picture. Fitting.
  • BearKnightBearKnight Member CommonPosts: 461
    Originally posted by Waterlily
    Smedley probably drew the troll picture. Fitting.

    It's a goblin....not a troll.

     

     

    Oh god, should i feel bad for knowing that!?!

  • giga1000giga1000 Member Posts: 98
     

    The Devs already stated that EQN will not have perma death but... There is always a chance a  perma death server may be added to give player a choice on the systems they want to play. That in my eyes would be good because in MMORPG's choice is where the fun is.

  • BearKnightBearKnight Member CommonPosts: 461
    Originally posted by giga1000
     

     That in my eyes would be good because in MMORPG's choice is where the fun is.

    Bingo

     

    Choice brings in a larger customer volume.

     

    FFA-PVP servers

    Roleplay servers

    Guild v Guild servers

    Race vs Race servers

    Kingdom vs Kindom servers

    Realm vs Realm servers (ie: races cluster up into 3 different factions to fight each other)

     

    Any singular game that can do all of these server selections that EQ1 USED to do win the internet for the next 10years.

  • Storm_CloudStorm_Cloud Member UncommonPosts: 401

    I don't get it. What secrets?

    Here I thought at SOE Live, EVERYTHING was going to be revealed, and, to my 42 years of wisdom, everything is everything. There cannot be any secrets.

     

  • radagast777radagast777 Member Posts: 80
    I feel we got trolled lol.

    Us -we want death to mean something, we want difficulty and meaningful progression!
    SoE -Aight, permadeath.
    Us - fuck.


    Middle ground plz? kk
  • munx4555munx4555 Member Posts: 169
    I definatly belive permadeath is a possibility, however if it is done It is my belief that SoE would split eqnext into two, one hardcore game and one softcore game, with very diffrent gameplay "rules" etc but similar content, I very much doubt SoE would risk alienating casual players for permadeath, but at the same time capitalizing on the hardcore crowd would be a good move.
  • jerlot65jerlot65 Member UncommonPosts: 788
    Permadeath will never be.  At least in a mainstream MMO like EQ Next.  Not having permadeath is one of the few features early MMO's had that will pass the test of time.

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  • AceshighhhhAceshighhhh Member Posts: 185
    Originally posted by BearKnight
    Originally posted by giga1000
     

     That in my eyes would be good because in MMORPG's choice is where the fun is.

    Bingo

     

    Choice brings in a larger customer volume.

     

    FFA-PVP servers

    Roleplay servers

    Guild v Guild servers

    Race vs Race servers

    Kingdom vs Kindom servers

    Realm vs Realm servers (ie: races cluster up into 3 different factions to fight each other)

     

    Any singular game that can do all of these server selections that EQ1 USED to do win the internet for the next 10years.

    Wouldn't this just completely split up the community?

  • VhayneVhayne Member UncommonPosts: 632
    Originally posted by radagast777
    I feel we got trolled lol.

    Us -we want death to mean something, we want difficulty and meaningful progression!
    SoE -Aight, permadeath.
    Us - fuck.


    Middle ground plz? kk

    I'm sick as hell right now, but I laughed hard when I read that. :)  Thanks lol.

  • kraizkraiz Member Posts: 14
    Permadeath? Please... That's just some good humour from D. What we really should discussing is this: " You have ruined your own lands. You will not ruin mine!" PvP? Race faction? Eve 0.0 sec style? 
  • ValentinaValentina Member RarePosts: 2,108
    Permadeath won't happen. Maybe on a specific server rule-set, but not as a primary um..."Feature" of the game. That would just be them shooting themselves in the foot if that was the case.
  • munx4555munx4555 Member Posts: 169
    Originally posted by jerlot65
    Permadeath will never be.  At least in a mainstream MMO like EQ Next.  Not having permadeath is one of the few features early MMO's had that will pass the test of time.

    huh? permadeath was far from uncommon in early mmo's, and SoE has already attempted it twice in the past with theyr AAA games, both in EQ and in SWG, however sadly eq was not built from scratch to support it, while swg tried to incorporate it together with the normal gameplay.

    Permadeath is a feature that can be a benefit to a mmo, however what is important when making a AAA mmorpg is to not try to force such a feature on your players, this is also why I belive EQnext could possibly feature two very diffrent types of servers, if the permadeath servers were built from scratch with the intention of serving as permadeath servers I belive it would only be beneficial for the game as a whole.

    That said I don't see there being any danger of permadeath being forced on players, SoE has more experience with mmo's then most, and while they have made some blunders in the past, I doubt this is the kinda landmine they would step on.

  • jdnycjdnyc Member UncommonPosts: 1,643

    Most likely it's an inside joke from the team.  Which would explain probably why Smedley tweeted it before and shortly later said that it was a joke.

     

  • MendelMendel Member LegendaryPosts: 5,609
    Originally posted by BearKnight
    Originally posted by Waterlily
    Smedley probably drew the troll picture. Fitting.

    It's a goblin....not a troll.

     

     

    Oh god, should i feel bad for knowing that!?!

    Knowing the exact differences is only important if you're planning to try to reproduce with it.   I'll extend you the courtesy of believing your intentions did not lean in that direction. :)

    Logic, my dear, merely enables one to be wrong with great authority.

  • waynejr2waynejr2 Member EpicPosts: 7,771
    Originally posted by Storm_Cloud

    I don't get it. What secrets?

    Here I thought at SOE Live, EVERYTHING was going to be revealed, and, to my 42 years of wisdom, everything is everything. There cannot be any secrets.

     

    Obviously everything is limited to information that is knowable.  For example, they can't tell us a specific number of players who will play 4 days post release.  Certainly other information won't be knowable that might be game specific information as they might add something post the reveal.

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  • NadiaNadia Member UncommonPosts: 11,798
    Originally posted by Aceshighhhh
    Originally posted by BearKnight

    Any singular game that can do all of these server selections that EQ1 USED to do win the internet for the next 10years.

    Wouldn't this just completely split up the community?

    I dont think it would split up the community any worse

    than games like WOW / RIFT / EQ2  that have PVE and PVP servers

    EQ2 fan sites

  • ThaneThane Member EpicPosts: 3,534
    Originally posted by BearKnight
    Originally posted by Waterlily
    Smedley probably drew the troll picture. Fitting.

    It's a goblin....not a troll.

     

     

    Oh god, should i feel bad for knowing that!?!

    na, the difference is quite obvious :)

    "I'll never grow up, never grow up, never grow up! Not me!"

  • jdnycjdnyc Member UncommonPosts: 1,643
    Originally posted by Nadia
     

    I dont think it would split up the community any worse

    than games like WOW / RIFT / EQ2  that have PVE and PVP servers

    You say that like it's a good thing. 

  • GrimulaGrimula Member UncommonPosts: 644

    West coast Surfer Goblins ??? Holy crap I hope this is Not true hahah....we don't want no stinking West coast surfer Goblins

     

    hahah that would suck  if they actually added west coast surfer goblins to game LoL  with stoner sounding voices

  • OzivoisOzivois Member UncommonPosts: 598
    Permadeath comment is just a joke. Expect Permafrost, though...
  • IridescentOrkIridescentOrk Member Posts: 157

    there is no story with permadeath

     

    /thread

    gameplay > graphics

  • KrimzinKrimzin Member UncommonPosts: 687
    Perma Death will never be part of Everquest Next.

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  • munx4555munx4555 Member Posts: 169
    Originally posted by IridescentOrk

    there is no story with permadeath

     

    /thread

    Sounds about right since eqnext is supposed to be sandbox, If its truely sandbox don't expect alot of dev created story.

    Story only breeds crappy themepark mmos anyways.

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