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I wanted to see something like this.
Kiyoris
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Some people ask why so many are disappointed. I think it's the art style, the gameplay, it looks all a bit childish, making your own world with another game, gimmicky.
I wanted to see something real, gritty, a world that makes you group out of fear, a hardcore game like EQ.
I did not want to see the lion King prancing around
I saw the new Black Desert trailer the other day, I wanted to see this:
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"Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys. Look on them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death!"
- Sun Tzu, the Art of War
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Perhaps to yourself, but to myself I find what SoE showed to be incredible. And that footage in the OP to be incredibly generic.
"Regard your soldiers as your children, and they will follow you into the deepest valleys. Look on them as your own beloved sons, and they will stand by you even unto death!"
- Sun Tzu, the Art of War
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So many were disapointed? from various polls it seems like about 70%+ are quite optimistic after what we saw today, considering the mmo community have all sorts of people id say 70% is just about as good as it gets.
Personally my only issue with the graphics was the kerran mixed with the oversized shoulderpads, other then that I looked awesome, and in my opinion it reminded me more of bioshock infinite then wow, the fact that they have managed this with voxels makes it even more awesome.
That said, I am a big fan of gritty graphics myself, however I don't think it would lend itself well to a voxel based world.
I hate to go bringing critical thinking skills into a whine-fest, but....
At least 95% of the people who play MMOs can't afford a rig that will even begin to render those graphics at that quality and a decent framerate, along with particle effects, other players, NPCs. mobs, etc.
Have you seen what "realistic" graphics look like when you have to scale all the sliders down for a shitty computer? A hell of a lot worse than scaling down the type of graphics EQN will have.
That's to say nothing of longevity. In my experience, "realistic" games age visually much faster than stylized games. At least until we have true photo-realism, which is a long ways off for mainstream MMOs.
You're dreaming.
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
I'm sick of WoW like a lot of other people, but I'm not sick of it because of its graphics. EQN wasn't even on my radar until today. I'm actually looking forward to seeing how it pans out now.
I also like the look of Black Desert and will probably check it out too eventually.
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Future: The Repopulation, ArcheAge, Black Desert, EQN
im still on the wall about it. ill try it, i like the blood in black desert, if Eqn gives me blood to make up for a cartoon world im in.
but you haft to admit they failed on the promise of hardcore and "metal". i can already see this game with an E-for everyone rating
Honestly, comparing the two, I prefer EQNext.
Black Desert looked really cool, but for me the environment around the characters was lacking. It was pretty minimalistic, and the close ups on the blades of grass looked bad. EQNext is stylized, but the environments, for me, looked more appealing.
I really didn't like the purple spell effect from the video either, I'd prefer something more "cartoony". I also grew up playing JRPGs and watch a ton of anime, could be the difference :P
Meh I think this style of combat and graphics are boring and more conducive to a single player game then an MMO. EQN looks miles ahead and coupled with the 4 pillars of its gameplay will revolutionize the genre. Black Desert looks to be more of the same ole same.
Random Forum Poster: I want an MMO that is different, original and fun.
Me: So you want something like EQN
Them: Nah dude, I want a Holy Trinity, Tab Target combat, Instanced Raiding, and Rigid classes.
Me: Double Facepalm.
Sadly the minority are the ones who scream the loudest. Meanwhile the people who are anticipating more of what to come are waiting. The majority usually remain silent.
Random Forum Poster: I want an MMO that is different, original and fun.
Me: So you want something like EQN
Them: Nah dude, I want a Holy Trinity, Tab Target combat, Instanced Raiding, and Rigid classes.
Me: Double Facepalm.
One of my all time favorite games was also one of the ugliest games I have ever played: Tribes. I learned a long time ago that great gameplay trumps graphics by a long shot. Still, what *little* we saw of EQN today didn't leave me thinking it looked bad at all.
I also thought GW2 was going to look bad, but it ended up growing on my and looking stunning at times. Right now, EQN's graphics are the last thing on my mind about the game.
A sure sign that you are in an old, dying paradigm/mindset, is when you are scared of new ideas and new technology. Don't feel bad. The world is moving on without you, and you are welcome to yell "Get Off My Lawn!" all you want while it happens. You cannot, however, stop an idea whose time has come.
And here the official EQN title melody:
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Doubt you'll have to worry about the lion king, most of it will be ordinary humanoids like usual.
Kerran weren't very popular
Not sure how you come to the figure of 95% unless you mean in North America as us UK players who are serious gamers have multi PC's I have 4 on my desk and build a new rig every two years and replace one of the older ones. I can play any game at any date and get maximum performance from them.
I'm not happy with the way EQN looks I do not like that stupid lion race and again the over sized armour makes it look Wowish, however I love the idea of multi layer worlds and only time will tell if we can get them to change the look to a cleaner character then I'd be happy.
I refused to play Wow on the basic it was cartoony as shit and I am not playing no cartoon game don't give a shit who makes it. It also look far to easy for me but to be fair we don't know what the A1 will be like until launch. Smed said the game will be out late 2013 lets hope they start cranking up beta this month to see how the game performs.
I'm going to hold of judging this until it leaves beta because much can change if they do listen to the community then voices could impact what they have planned.
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Bless character art is good.
Every single person who is crying about EQN being a WoW clone or for children is doing it completely based on seeing the graphics and character models.
Which is beyond absurd.
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Waiting On: Nothing. Mmorpg's are dead.
i agree but people that are pissed about the art style really do have a legitimate gripe, it looks nothing like an EQ game, people bitch about TESO not looking like ES? EQN is way worse in that regard.
its going to take me a while to get used to this, if at all.