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EQNext: Stylized Graphics?

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  • ThorqemadaThorqemada Member UncommonPosts: 1,282

    Imho Lotro has superior looking Chars and that is Comic Graphic as well and even the Chars of old DAOC look better today and have well balanced shapes and show High Resolution Textures on their armor, EQ2 and VG look better, Perfect World looks way better while EQ:N is WOW meets Disney 10 years ago.

    I am pretty fine with the female face, it looks ok, but Shape and Pose and Equipment look bad.

    The Lion is absurd.

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  • fayknaymfayknaym Member Posts: 125
    EQN has a classy look and feel that matches the flow of the gameplay, making movements and attacks look and feel more natural and animated. The above posted graphic looks stiff and would look out of place with the animated and "flowy" type of movement and gameplay they are developing in EQN. 
  • IneveraskforthisIneveraskforthis Member Posts: 374

    FFXI a game release before WoW still looks reasonably well by current standard.

    Age of Conan imo is still  one of he best looking MMO in the market

    Aion still looks decently well

     

    then we have stylized graphic like SWTOR

     

    Point is stylized graphic doesn't guarantee longiviity , it can ages well or not  just like some of the more realistic looking MMO. 

     

  • evilastroevilastro Member Posts: 4,270
    Originally posted by Drakynn
    Originally posted by evilastro
    Originally posted by loopback1199

    Personally I hate them, I've seen them all over games for the past (insert number here) of years already, so really, this isn't anything new to the table.

     

    BUT the argument for them is that stylized graphics don't age.

    I just want to tell you that while the art doesn't age, the playerbase does. And those of us that have the jobs and the money to keep buying and playing a lot of these games are well over and past our cartoon age. If Disney wants to release the next EQ after this, I won't be half surprised at this point.

     

    Edited because I couldn't resist.

     

    This is what us old timers would call the EQ NGE

     

    So no one over the age of 16 watches Disney, Pixar, The Clone Wars, The Simpsons, Family Guy or Futurama?

    No one over 16 plays World of Warcraft, Mario Kart or Conkers Bad Fur Day?

     

    Sorry I didn't realise that people were supposed to stop enjoying stylised graphics and anime once they reached a certain age. Thanks for letting us all know. Keep us updated on other things adults are supposed to like, thanks.

    Sorry you lose credibility with me for not mentioning Archer,Venture Bros and technically Robot Chicken.You need to grind Drakynn rep now. 8P

    Haha well I do watch all of those, but I was going for more mainstream choices that would be easily identified.

  • dimnikardimnikar Member Posts: 271

    I'm 30 and I preffer stylized graphics (WoW) over "realistic" that turn butt-ugly within a year (GW2).

    These games are supposed to be played and immersed in for years, and you can't expect to stay immersed in an ugly, obviously OLD game.

    I know the general consensus on niche forums like this one is that WoW is ugly - but the playerbase has well and truly decided that's not the case a long, long time ago.

    Thank God they went with stylized.

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  • tank017tank017 Member Posts: 2,192
    Originally posted by dimnikar

    I'm 30 and I preffer stylized graphics (WoW) over "realistic" that turn butt-ugly within a year (GW2).

    These games are supposed to be played and immersed in for years, and you can't expect to stay immersed in an ugly, obviously OLD game.

    I know the general consensus on niche forums like this one is that WoW is ugly - but the playerbase has well and truly decided that's not the case a long, long time ago.

    Thank God they went with stylized.

    GW2 is stylized...

     

    please show me a realistic MMO that has turned butt ugly in a year.

  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Played Everquest for years, and i really hoped that EQ Next would revitalise the Everquest mark, especially after the utter failure that was Everquest 2. But it was not to be, perhaps its just time that accepted that SOE cannot make a worthwhile MMO. The graphics are horribad, seriously, they could not get any worse. And from what little actually saw of the combat mechanics, the epic failness is finally complete. Well done SOE, you got better at failing (100) image
  • tank017tank017 Member Posts: 2,192
    Originally posted by Phry
    Played Everquest for years, and i really hoped that EQ Next would revitalise the Everquest mark, especially after the utter failure that was Everquest 2. But it was not to be, perhaps its just time that accepted that SOE cannot make a worthwhile MMO. The graphics are horribad, seriously, they could not get any worse. And from what little actually saw of the combat mechanics, the epic failness is finally complete. Well done SOE, you got better at failing (100) image

    I expected the graphics to look as they are after seeing Planetside 2 and I dont mind them at all..

     

    but the character art styles??    thats a completely different story.....wow.

  • KiyorisKiyoris Member RarePosts: 2,130
  • PhryPhry Member LegendaryPosts: 11,004
    Originally posted by tank017
    Originally posted by Phry
    Played Everquest for years, and i really hoped that EQ Next would revitalise the Everquest mark, especially after the utter failure that was Everquest 2. But it was not to be, perhaps its just time that accepted that SOE cannot make a worthwhile MMO. The graphics are horribad, seriously, they could not get any worse. And from what little actually saw of the combat mechanics, the epic failness is finally complete. Well done SOE, you got better at failing (100) image

    I expected the graphics to look as they are after seeing Planetside 2 and I dont mind them at all..

     

    but the character art styles??    thats a completely different story.....wow.

    unfortunately its the character art styles i was mostly referring to, although how they moved and fought is also a huge factor. I really don't know what demographic their aiming at, but im pretty sure it isnt the EQ1 vets. i'd guess much much younger....image

  • KiyorisKiyoris Member RarePosts: 2,130
  • Punk999Punk999 Member UncommonPosts: 882
    The only thing graphic wise i care about is Trolls. Tho i do like how the game looks honestly.

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  • SuraknarSuraknar Member UncommonPosts: 852

    Gameplay > Graphics

    I like the choice of the art direction personally.

    I do not care if the argument is valid or not and whether the style ages or not. All I know is that the only MMORPG that i played for more than 2 months...5 years actually, was UO and it had 2D sprites upon which you could not even diferentiate the face of a character, but was customizable and players were invited to use own imagination and made unique looking characters they were fond and proud of anyways.

    So all this complaining about the graphic style is really moot for me, I am sorry.

    The game will be fun from the sounds of its systems and intended gameplay and if you are as superficial as to not play it because of how it looks then maybe you should not be playing games that are about imaginary settings and monsters and cultures, because you lack imagination to begin with.

    If I want to be amongst real looking characters,you know what I do? I shut down my computer and go play outside, more real than that it does not get. ;)

    Cheers!

     

     

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  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Member RarePosts: 5,361
    Originally posted by tank017
    Originally posted by rumpleman

    You guys are not seeing the big picture. They made a calculated choice by going with this art style. This will age beautifully.  You people complain that big companies can't learn from their mistakes. EQ2 was a big mistake graphically as it ages terribly (runs poorly too). Good on SOE for making the right long term decision. 

    AOC,VG,and EQ2 have aged prefectly fine.

    I tried to go back to vanguard and EQ2 and the ugliness of the stiff character models and animations made me uninstall it right away.  AoC sacrificed large seamless zones for its graphics and have been instanced to death.  All 3 released out like total shit too with graphical issues and crashes with long loading screens. By the time the games got stable majority stopped caring and only niche plays them now only because its something to do until the next new mmo comes out.  In EQ2 and Vanguard all races look like humans with different heads which look very awkward.  At least in games like WoW and GW2 the races actually look like their species.  A Tauran looks big like a buffalo, a panda looks like a panda, an undead looks like an undead.  A Charr looks like a Charr.  Plus they dont look like glossy plastic dolls.

  • akahdrinakahdrin Member Posts: 17
    A game that looks gritty and immersive that actually isn't is probably one of the more common things out there for games.  You can be just as immersed into something with cartoony graphics.  Doing pen and paper we get immersed with whatever you can dream up.  If you want realism, well casting spells, gnomes, dwarves, elves, etc. aren't exactly realistic.  It's a fantasy game, let it be one.

    Currently playing Everquest on Project1999

  • CaldrinCaldrin Member UncommonPosts: 4,505

    The graphics are the only issue I have with what I have seen of EQN so far.. its kind of a let down that they went with cartoon style graphics :(

     

    Still the rest of the game sounds bloody awesome.. but no mention of pvp yet?

  • lovebuglovebug Member UncommonPosts: 260

    when I first saw eqnext gameplay first thing in my head was this looks like a more up to date world of warcraft looks wise.

     

    there will be one good thing with stylized graphics is now we will get better looking armor  you have to face it the armor looks in eq2 were not the best.

    can not wait to play :)) seems the beta sign up don't work can log into account but nothing there for beta sign up.

  • Tutu2Tutu2 Member UncommonPosts: 572
    Originally posted by Phry
    Originally posted by tank017
    Originally posted by Phry
    Played Everquest for years, and i really hoped that EQ Next would revitalise the Everquest mark, especially after the utter failure that was Everquest 2. But it was not to be, perhaps its just time that accepted that SOE cannot make a worthwhile MMO. The graphics are horribad, seriously, they could not get any worse. And from what little actually saw of the combat mechanics, the epic failness is finally complete. Well done SOE, you got better at failing (100) image

    I expected the graphics to look as they are after seeing Planetside 2 and I dont mind them at all..

     

    but the character art styles??    thats a completely different story.....wow.

    unfortunately its the character art styles i was mostly referring to, although how they moved and fought is also a huge factor. I really don't know what demographic their aiming at, but im pretty sure it isnt the EQ1 vets. i'd guess much much younger....image

    Unfortunetly, it feels like it is the case. I personally really loathe this whole Pixar wannabe look and I'm disappointed the franchise lost its more "mature" realistic look.

  • ElRenmazuoElRenmazuo Member RarePosts: 5,361
    Originally posted by Phry

    unfortunately its the character art styles i was mostly referring to, although how they moved and fought is also a huge factor. I really don't know what demographic their aiming at, but im pretty sure it isnt the EQ1 vets. i'd guess much much younger....image

    Really? Because Bioshock has a very similar art design and its demographic are adults with an M rating too.  Majority of comic book fans are also 25+ lots in their 30s and 40s and even past 50.  Same for games like Darksiders which is also based on a comic.  Just because you dont like a certain art style doesnt mean its specifically for kids.  I just believe people like you have some sort of superiority complex that makes you feel like your intelligence as an adult is threatened by it, basically an insecurity.  Kind of like how some teenagers feel and think their more mature if they drink and smoke and date older people.

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    Originally posted by iamjason1989
    FFXI a game release before WoW still looks reasonably well by current standard.Age of Conan imo is still  one of he best looking MMO in the marketAion still looks decently well  then we have stylized graphic like SWTOR Point is stylized graphic doesn't guarantee longiviity , it can ages well or not  just like some of the more realistic looking MMO.  


    Funny thing is all games ure talkin about are got stylized graphics except Age Of Conan. But Age of Conan sacrificed large seamless zones for its graphics...

  • IneveraskforthisIneveraskforthis Member Posts: 374
    Originally posted by Wyrdfell

     

    Originally posted by iamjason1989
    FFXI a game release before WoW still looks reasonably well by current standard.Age of Conan imo is still  one of he best looking MMO in the marketAion still looks decently well  then we have stylized graphic like SWTOR Point is stylized graphic doesn't guarantee longiviity , it can ages well or not  just like some of the more realistic looking MMO.  

     


    Funny thing is all games ure talkin about are got stylized graphics except Age Of Conan. But Age of Conan sacrificed large seamless zones for its graphics...

    You are right, but every games is stylized one or another, Witcher 2 is stylized and Fable is too stylized, but it is obvious that Witcher 2 is hell a lot more realistic .

    I hope you get my point.

  • ShadanwolfShadanwolf Member UncommonPosts: 2,392
    Originally posted by tkreep
    Originally posted by Phry

    unfortunately its the character art styles i was mostly referring to, although how they moved and fought is also a huge factor. I really don't know what demographic their aiming at, but im pretty sure it isnt the EQ1 vets. i'd guess much much younger....image

    Really? Because Bioshock has a very similar art design and its demographic are adults with an M rating too.  Majority of comic book fans are also 25+ lots in their 30s and 40s and even past 50.  Same for games like Darksiders which is also based on a comic.  Just because you dont like a certain art style doesnt mean its specifically for kids.  I just believe people like you have some sort of superiority complex that makes you feel like your intelligence as an adult is threatened by it, basically an insecurity.  Kind of like how some teenagers feel and think their more mature if they drink and smoke and date older people.

    I knew it.

    Its the customers fault for not liking this companys product.Silly me.

  • SiderasSideras Member Posts: 231
    EQ2 was ugly, AoC was ugly (characterwise ofc). So no I disagree. I usually prefer a realistic look but if they have a cartoony style that's easy on the eyes with a nice color palette, I'm all for it. And yes it does age very well wheter you like that argument or not.
  • HorusraHorusra Member EpicPosts: 4,411
    Cartoony is for kids...no adults every played or do play WoW.
  • kitaradkitarad Member LegendaryPosts: 8,177

    Cartoons are not only for kids. This is the same problem with anime on the western market .Very narrow taste here. This the box art from EQOA and compare it to the art we were shown on the Dark Elves,High Elves and Orcs. I think they will tune the Kerran to look different from feedback but saying everquest never looked cartoony is not true.

    image

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