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Why are you all complaining about the graphics?
ionscorp
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I'm quite saddened by the response towards the graphics of EQ Next. I for one really enjoy the new look and will be quite happy to play the game as soon as I can get my hands on it. Why is there so much hate towards the graphics??
They are reverting back to the original play style of EQ 1 while improving on it, this does not mean it should be like the first game exactly down to the graphics.
One point I would also like to make is that cartoon graphics make it easier in PVP situations.
Example:
WoW - After spending time in the game you are able to learn the abilities of most classes and due to the "cartoony" graphics you are able to visualize what abilities they are doing to counteract their moves.
Rift - Having more realistic graphics impedes the player in making the same counter moves as there is less to notice visual since it is more realistic.
While refraining from being a SOE fan-boy, (I hated EQ2) I must say the game looks quite beautiful and from what they are promising it will definitely be a game that I will be eager to play for a few years to come. No two servers will ever be the same.. ever... HOW AWESOME IS THAT?
There is a lot of really great things about this game, including the graphics yet it appears a lot of players are ready to abandon ship due to the "Disney appearance"
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It's a matter of taste. There is nothing "wrong" with the EQN graphics or with WoW graphics. It's just a style.
THe reason people are complaining is that a lot of us are EQ/EQ2 fans and the style of those games is a more "realist / fantasy" style rather than the children's cartoon style of EQN/WoW. The complaint isn't really that the graphics are "wrong", the complaint is that the graphics aren't "Everquest".
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
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I'm a long time player of the original EQ.
EQ 2 comes out and it was either a love or hate game for most of the populace due to it was not really Everquest.. It was something completely different.
Why should it not be different with EQ Next? It's a different game entirely which plays homage to the orignal more than the second.
So it is Everquest, but not Everquest.. Still, it will be one amazing game and the graphics are part of the new experience. Negativity towards change
I think the issue is that the graphical style simply shocked and surprised a lot of people. It came from left field. People will settle down, adjust, and get over it..or they won't.
I'm not opposed to the graphics. I think the world is absolutely beautiful so far. I wasn't a fan of how they presented the Kerran, but apparently armor will be adjustable so maybe some tweaking can make the armor less grandiose. Maybe there are other ways in character creation to make your Kerran look more panther-like, or like a snow leopard, as per the other EQ games.
I just think its simply too early to dig in your heels and poo-poo what little we've seen so far. There is a lot more to be revealed, and the game has a decent chunk of development left. I'm intrigued and I like what I have heard and seen so far. I'm willing to wait and see how this progresses.
Your Firiona is waiting for you.
The possibility of the universe collapsing into a singularity is higher than the birth of a perfect MMORPG.
This, unfortunately.
If SOE did not call it Everquest Next, maybe EQ/EQ2 fans are more receptive of the graphics.
The possibility of the universe collapsing into a singularity is higher than the birth of a perfect MMORPG.
Both EQ and EQ 2 were nothing alike graphic wise or gameplay. Why should EQ Next be any different? (yes I understand there was limitations in graphics due to the original technology)
I don't the art style, I can handle it when watching a Disney movie, I will cope with when playing the game.
Though it did bug me that Firiona, a High Elf, was uglier than the female human wizard....
whe people hear "the next sandbox MMO" they translate "sandbox" into "the perfect game i have designed in my brain" and then when ANYTHING that is revealed that is different than their mental description of the perfect game they go to the forums and gnash their teeth on the forums about how the game is trash because of (insert the item of discrepancy here) and the devs are all lying scum.
also not everyone understands that the more high- realism the character models the more their machine will heat up when there are 50 of them all in the same area.
also if you pay attention, the same group of folks are doing a lot of the teeth gnashing, not to say they arent a significant number but to say it might not be as big a number as you think.
RIP Ribbitribbitt you are missed, kid.
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Only the EQ2 players should be crying. EQ1 has stylized blocky graphics already.
Did EQ2 receive such a strong backlash for its graphics?
WOW graphics were very new then, and EQ players expects any kind of visual upgrade as an upgrade. If EQ2 was produced with WOW graphics, maybe EQ players will be more receptive since it is considered fresh.
Problem now? Instead of trying to improve on the looks of existing models to the next higher level, they go Bratz Dolls/Lion King.
The possibility of the universe collapsing into a singularity is higher than the birth of a perfect MMORPG.
Very true
I've played EQ games for the last 14 years, i'll play EQN simply because it's EQ but i would of like this kind of style.
They were alike in that neither looked like a saturday morning children's cartoon.
I am quite tolerant of different graphics. I love my EQ2, but i could enjoy Rift even though it was more stylized, LoTRO has really bad quality animations and dull models, but they're tolerable and fit the world. Neverwinter, Vanguard, AION - all had models that weren't to my taste. But they were more or less in the "realist" aesthetic and i could overlook that i didn't like them.
EQN's chosen art style is just complete opposite of what i am looking for in graphics or what i expect the world of Everquest to look like. I have never been able to try WoW and despite some intersting features, i have zero interest in Wildstar. EQN is quickly heading down the same path.
That being said, while my interest dropped A LOT due to the graphics, now that they've announced the game systems - no progression, no stats on gear, 8-button combat - the whole package is looking worse and worse. Hopefully they'll eventually implement some of their cool dynamic content and Rally Call ideas into the real EQ (EQ & EQ2) games.
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO
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Currently Playing: ESO
Forgive me for arguing, but there was a lot of nay sayers about the graphics in EQ 2 when it was released :P
Why are you all complaining about the graphics?
Because it's 2013 and shit still stinks.
. . .and this:
K, your Firiona is waiting for you. Enjoy.
The possibility of the universe collapsing into a singularity is higher than the birth of a perfect MMORPG.
If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe. - Carl Sagan
When EQ2 was released, it was already being ripped apart because of it's character graphics. Elves looked fat, human females had a slouched look and there was a plastic sheen to most of the hairstyles. It looked very odd. Then, a little while after release, someone linked the SOGA models that were released with the Asian version of EQ2. These were typical Asian character models you find in a million games.
SOE eventually had to switch the regular models over to the SOGA models because there was such outcry over how ugly the Western character models were. I think you can still go in and switch a few back to their ugly state....and they were very ugly by the way.
No one ever liked the Luclin animations for EQ1. They are some of the most amateurish stuff you will ever find, they are still there today....unfinished.
As far as the graphics, if I wanted GuildWars 2 or WOW or *eventually) Wildstat stuff I would play those games.
I dont mind the style of characters in EQ next
EQN to the next level
The actual EQN
The possibility of the universe collapsing into a singularity is higher than the birth of a perfect MMORPG.
Here are some more comparisons between "old and ugly" EQ2 and the "new and amazing" EQN:
"Id rather work on something with great potential than on fulfilling a promise of mediocrity."
- Raph Koster
Tried: AO,EQ,EQ2,DAoC,SWG,AA,SB,HZ,CoX,PS,GA,TR,IV,GnH,EVE, PP,DnL,WAR,MxO,SWG,FE,VG,AoC,DDO,LoTRO,Rift,TOR,Aion,Tera,TSW,GW2,DCUO,CO,STO
Favourites: AO,SWG,EVE,TR,LoTRO,TSW,EQ2, Firefall
Currently Playing: ESO