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Do you not remember NGE? Only a masochist tolerates SOE
Osmanthus
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I don't believe the hype on this forum. Do you not remember what SOE did to SWG? Did you not play EQ2?
This company will treat you badly. Save yourselves!!!
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For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
Similar situation here and besides it is assumed/hoped for that SOE has learned from past mistakes such as the NGE and won't likely repeat them.
Finally, the did have past success in EQ1 and even EQ2 (some folks enjoyed the latter even if it did not equal WOWS success) and are hoping the third time is a charm.
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every true SWG fan remember and loathe the NGE.
SOE will screw their paying customers over as soon as they get a chance.
i wish it wasn't so but history will repeat itself.
OF course we remember it. Yet we also remember why it happened, and the goals of it. In other words people only need to worry if EQN isn't doing so hot (or as expected0...
For every minute you are angry , you lose 60 seconds of happiness."-Emerson
This feels so nostalgic. A real doom and gloom NGE thread. I thought these people were extinct by now thanks to a volcano explosion
/popcorn
I love this notion that a game's company changes their game with the sole intention of screwing over their players.
How can someone even begin the thought process that leads to believing such nonsense is beyond me.
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SOE May not be making EQN for you!
NGE
Vanguard
NEVER FORGET, most likely never forgive too.
Unless EQN lives up to its promises which is very unlikely...it's SOE afterall
Oke then it seems save to enjoy a game from SOE for a long time.
EQ is still running AND expending.
EQ2 is still running AND expending.
PS1 has been running for a long time. True it migth have had a update a lot of people dislike, but a lot of people liked it as well.
There working hard on Vangaurd trying to make something out of that game. It migth have been easier for them to just cancel it.
The problem is people only seem to think of the mistake this company made. They are people. They make mistakes. Looking at it objectively I think SOE migth actually have a good track record compared to other big MMO companies
Vangaurd was created by an other company. They where the publisher. They took over a crappy game and are trying to make something out of it. This is not a bad thing, because a lot of companies would have said "screw it".
Poeple always forget...the things they want to forget. You seem you want to forget the good things the company did and just keep hammering at the NGE thing and just decide to remeber vangaurd wrongly.
well, they did mess up the SWG...
but EQ was a success and EQ2 wasn't THAT bad... I think SOE had it's problems and did some mistakes, but which company didn't?
Take EA as an example, they're still making mistakes and they did a colossal f*** up with SWTOR and yet they're still on the top but that doesn't mean they won't make a good game once in a while... :P
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Seriously, get the fuck over it.
While you have been having your years long pity party SoE have been learning from their mistakes. Their interaction now with players is exemplary, especially in Planetside 2.
NGE was not really SOEs fault it was LA that made them do it.. there is a thread on these forums with links to a blog by the LA guy behind the decision.
I played EQ2 and played it for well voer a year it was actually a very enjoyable game. I fonud it to be much better than WOW thats for sure..
Pluse SOE have recently released PS2 and that is an awesome fun game
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Not sure I will want to play EQN, but if SoE hires Lucas, I will then worry about SoE and SWG....As for EQ2, not really.
They have moved away from treating "paid" customers badly. now they only treat free players badly. if you are paid customer in any of their f2p games then you are free from all sort of perma ban; not only that say you were free players in any of their games and got yourself perma banned(like i did); subscribed to that game and your ban will be lifted instantly. my point is that if you pay them; then don't worry about bad service; they will practically lick ...umm..i will not write the full phrase but you get my point.
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Oh no, abandon ship! Abandon...
Really? Have we sunk so low that 1) we judge games before we even have a chance to try them and 2) we assume that just because a company makes 1 big mistake, they are incapable of learning from it and won't make it again?
Seriously this is just so sad that everyone is acting this way. I mean seriously, didn't we do this already when another game was announced, when that particular game had cartoony graphics that didn't sit well with people when they saw it, and when the game came out, it was universally praised, with the graphics being hailed as adding to the experience and helping set the mood and tone for the game and the people who complained about the graphics eating their words? What was it called again? Oh yea...
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Sorry for the "rage", but seriously, you're acting like 2 year olds who lost their blanket; please stop.
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So true. But I thought they might have changed.
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Boobs are LIFE, Boobs are LOVE, Boobs are JUSTICE, Boobs are mankind's HOPES and DREAMS. People who complain about boobs have lost their humanity.
Oh, we are the ones who know the score and will live. It's people like you who die, of rage when you realise you've been cheated, of boredom when you realise the game is dull, of frustration when a year-old bug despawns the boss you've been fight for half an hour, of despair when they 'rebalance' your toon so it fights like every other toon now...
Pick out a nice plot for yourself now. You're going to be filling it sooner than you think. Would you like us survivors to send flowers or make a donation to charity? Are you registered at www.anothersmugtwatsoefuckeduptheass.com?
I have been playing EQ2 for 6 years now. What is wrong with that game? 12+ expansions (and adventure packs) and amount of content that put any MMO to shame and is still releasing content after so many years. You think they would be able to do that if players were not supporting them?
Let me guess if you personally don't like SOE so everyone else is supposed to dislike them too? is that it?
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You clearly need a history lesson.
NGE didn't ruin SWG, it was the final nail in the coffin for many, but it was the CU and before that the rediculous jedi macro grind that riled everyone up. Before that, the game was also hopelessly buggy and broken with horrible class buffs/nerfs and counter buff/nerf making a good class obsolete and an obsolete class god-like overnight....at times it was hard to know what class to play, why work on that new armour for your BH when next week it would be nerfed into the ground and probably also broken by the update?
The NGE wasn't actually as bad as most players seem to think, many played beyond the NGE and it was actually quite decent. People seem to forget for years SWG was broken, not buggy or poorly balanced, some classes and systems were just plain broken. They tried to fix the problem by removing the broken classes, stremlining the progression system and removing the buggy, broken and MASSIVELY exploited Jedi grind. However, they did it quite brutally and the semi-sandbox, semi-themepark MMO became less of the former and more of the latter. Making Jedi a class was a bad decision, but thery really had no choice, almost all of the remaining players were already Jedi or on the road to completing the macro grind. Removing Jedi altogether would have killed the game stone dead.
NGE wasn't SoE's greatest moment, but they did this for a reason and that reason was not to screw over their paying customers, it was to try and save the game and remarket it to appeal to the new influx of MMO gamers.
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