FFXIV topping the sales charts at Amazon

GPrestige · August 2013

It looks like this game is going to be quite successful to start. They already claimed they have over 1 million beta subscribers and now topping Amazon's PC sales list.

This is definitely good news. All the hard work they are putting into it is going to pay off, it seems.

BadSpock · August 2013

I hope FFXIV does really well.

I have a feeling I'm going to be playing it for a while.

Leiros · August 2013

I agree with BadSpock. I see myself playing this one for a while.

Also, that 1 million beta subscribers also includes everyone who already purchased FFXIV 1.0. A lot of people are willing to try out ARR because they already purchased 1.0 and don't actually have to buy the game again. That's a huge plus.

elocke · August 2013

Originally posted by BadSpock
I hope FFXIV does really well.

I have a feeling I'm going to be playing it for a while.

I agree. It's the first time since WoW:Burning Crusade where I felt longevity was back in my MMO of choice. Not since those days have I foreseen a long future in my game. We're going to need it too in order to keep us occupied while tons of shiny new MMOs come along and try to change things up, like EQNext, Wildstar, TESO and so on.

This seems to be the last true traditional MMO for a long time and I wouldn't be surprised if somewhere down the road the genre swings back this way when it realizes we're a sizable pool of gamers who enjoy traditional combat and MMO design.

Foomerang · August 2013

As long as they dont screw over crafters, ill be around for a while. I don't think they will do that considering the time they dedicated to their crafting and gathering systems. I don't see them rendering them obsolete with the first tier of dungeons and raids.

Rommie10-284 · August 2013

It's really the only game I *want* to play at the moment. Thanks to FtP I have a lot of options, and yet I'm willing to pay for a subscription for this one. So I do hope the game is successful and survives the post-release drop-off in good condition.

I want to play NAO, darnit! <insert Fry shoving money in face .gif here>

Blazeyer · August 2013

Originally posted by Foomerang
As long as they dont screw over crafters, ill be around for a while. I don't think they will do that considering the time they dedicated to their crafting and gathering systems. I don't see them rendering them obsolete with the first tier of dungeons and raids.

Well they are making changes in the crafting abilities. I'm not sure how many people knew of/saw but it was possible as of beta 3 to guarantee a HQ synth with NQ crafts each and every craft you made by following a certain ability pattern.

Foomerang · August 2013

Originally posted by Blazeyer
Originally posted by Foomerang As long as they dont screw over crafters, ill be around for a while. I don't think they will do that considering the time they dedicated to their crafting and gathering systems. I don't see them rendering them obsolete with the first tier of dungeons and raids.

Well they are making changes in the crafting abilities. I'm not sure how many people knew of/saw but it was possible as of beta 3 to guarantee a HQ synth with NQ crafts each and every craft you made by following a certain ability pattern.

Yeah I saw that. They said it was a bug. I'm more concerned with the typical cycle that happens to crafting in themeparks. New content comes out and the crafted gear becomes so obsolete, you can hardly give it away. That happened to me in rift about three months into storm legion. I'd sell maybe an item a day for less money than if I were to sell the raw materials instead. That's usually when I pack it up.

spankybus · August 2013

IMHO they DESERVE to do very well...they being Square Enix.

Every time i see a comment from someone saying, "Yea, i played 1.0 and it was awful, they deserve to fail" or something to that effect, it kind of pisses me off...and I am a 1.0 hater. The wife and I loved FFXI and bought 2 CE editions of version 1.0. Needless to say, we were pissed.

And you folks are right...1.0 sucked at launch! However, plenty of games have sucked at launch. We feel ripped off and we move on. In fact, i think the standard business model has become:

Show pictures
Generate Hype,
Score as many pre-orders as possible based on the minited information about your game.
Who cares if its shitty, so long as we make a profit on teh initiak sales...before word of mouth ruins that momentum

Now, to my limited knowledge, Square Enix is the first company I know of who did the following:

Admit their game was crap and APOLOGIZE
Allow the players to continue to play FOR FREE for...I think it was almost a year?!
Invest a CRAP TON of money to remake the failed game (remember squenix posted a record loss last year, something like 63 million, the CEO stepped down.)
Let ALL those who purchased the original game to have the remake for free.
Give said players another 30 free days after launch.
MOST IMPORTANTLY, FFXIV 2.0 is a great game! they did an amazing job of turning this thing around

I will be playing. We purchased a PS3 version. Such a great story and they deserve to be successful!

GPrestige · August 2013

Originally posted by spankybus

Now, to my limited knowledge, Square Enix is the first company I know of who did the following:

Admit their game was crap and APOLOGIZE

Allow the players to continue to play FOR FREE for...I think it was almost a year?!

Invest a CRAP TON of money to remake the failed game (remember squenix posted a record loss last year, something like 63 million, the CEO stepped down.)

Let ALL those who purchased the original game to have the remake for free.

Give said players another 30 free days after launch.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, FFXIV 2.0 is a great game! they did an amazing job of turning this thing around

I will be playing. We purchased a PS3 version. Such a great story and they deserve to be successful!

This is a very good point. I don't think there are any other MMO companies who have done this, and it helps illuminate the fact that SE didn't intentionally make 1.0 crappy. I think it was Tanaka's direction that caused it to be terrible - he was trying so hard to make it completely different from FFXI and other MMOs he sacrificed features people actually liked.

Nadia · August 2013

congrats to FFXIV

Nanfoodle · August 2013

Awesome =-) This make me very happy!!!

Kayo45 · August 2013

Very nice and unexpected. Didnt think the game had much hype at all or expect it to really top anything this time around. Not really a guarantee for huge success but its a start.

Xatsh · August 2013

As others said this means nothing when it comes to long term success.

What this means is the game has the potential to be a big success now. This proves that the playerbase has truly given SE a second chance with ARR something that to my knowledge no other mmo has gotten before.

The ball is in SE's court they need to hold the subs now. Getting them is the easy part, keeping them is the hard part.

kitarad · August 2013

I think they deserve to do well and I am hoping to stay playing for awhile.

Coated · August 2013

ARR has gotten great press. Obviously, it is a very niche game, but for what it is about, it seems to do it well. It doesn't surprise me that people are interested. Not to mention that ARR is the only AAA MMORPG coming out this year and quite possibly, into 2014 as well. All of the other big name titles won't be seen till 2015 (2014 is they rush out a product not ready).

GPrestige · August 2013

Originally posted by Xatsh
As others said this means nothing when it comes to long term success.

What this means is the game has the potential to be a big success now. This proves that the playerbase has truly given SE a second chance with ARR something that to my knowledge no other mmo has gotten before.

The ball is in SE's court they need to hold the subs now. Getting them is the easy part, keeping them is the hard part.

You're right.

Hopefully they manage to hold players past the first free month, as that'll be the true test as to whether or not it has succeeded.

NetSage · August 2013

Originally posted by Coated
ARR has gotten great press. Obviously, it is a very niche game, but for what it is about, it seems to do it well. It doesn't surprise me that people are interested. Not to mention that ARR is the only AAA MMORPG coming out this year and quite possibly, into 2014 as well. All of the other big name titles won't be seen till 2015 (2014 is they rush out a product not ready).

I love the new game so far but it does surprise me. Gamers (MMORPG ones especially) aren't the most forgiving imo. And, lets face it FFXIV 1.0 was horrible game at launch.

Braindome · August 2013

I bought my copy from greenmangaming, sorry Amazon.

Shoko_Lied · August 2013

I'm so used to seeing hype and happy/excited posts on forums like this that it's become really hard for me to not be skeptical. Regardless, I'm excited and I don't have to purchase ARR to play.

InsaneDalek · August 2013

Originally posted by spankybus
IMHO they DESERVE to do very well...they being Square Enix.

Every time i see a comment from someone saying, "Yea, i played 1.0 and it was awful, they deserve to fail" or something to that effect, it kind of pisses me off...and I am a 1.0 hater. The wife and I loved FFXI and bought 2 CE editions of version 1.0. Needless to say, we were pissed.

And you folks are right...1.0 sucked at launch! However, plenty of games have sucked at launch. We feel ripped off and we move on. In fact, i think the standard business model has become:

Show pictures

Generate Hype,

Score as many pre-orders as possible based on the minited information about your game.

Who cares if its shitty, so long as we make a profit on teh initiak sales...before word of mouth ruins that momentum

Now, to my limited knowledge, Square Enix is the first company I know of who did the following:

Admit their game was crap and APOLOGIZE

Allow the players to continue to play FOR FREE for...I think it was almost a year?!

Invest a CRAP TON of money to remake the failed game (remember squenix posted a record loss last year, something like 63 million, the CEO stepped down.)

Let ALL those who purchased the original game to have the remake for free.

Give said players another 30 free days after launch.

MOST IMPORTANTLY, FFXIV 2.0 is a great game! they did an amazing job of turning this thing around

I will be playing. We purchased a PS3 version. Such a great story and they deserve to be successful!

Indeed. A shame they don't do the same with their horrid SP FF games (starting with 8, although 9 was good. 10 and on are just awful though).

Dreamo84 · August 2013

I think it will be really popular on ps3. FFXI was huge on ps2 when it came out and a lot of those people have been itching for a next gen mmo.

Demalis · August 2013

This is good the FF franchise has worked for this.

Riposte.This · August 2013

I am excited for Final Fantasy. It gives me that old school with new school graphics and a smooth engine. I can't wait..

GPrestige · August 2013

Originally posted by Riposte.This
I am excited for Final Fantasy. It gives me that old school with new school graphics and a smooth engine. I can't wait..

You're right. Not many FF games have had that Final Fantasy feel in a while, and it's nice to have it back.

GeezerGamer · August 2013

Originally posted by Foomerang
As long as they dont screw over crafters, ill be around for a while. I don't think they will do that considering the time they dedicated to their crafting and gathering systems. I don't see them rendering them obsolete with the first tier of dungeons and raids.

This, This oh, and uh, yeah, This.

I am a HUGE meta-gamer. I am so looking forward to the crafting and markets again.

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