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[Column] General: Titan Not A Subscription MMORPG... Whodathunkit?

SBFordSBFord Former Associate EditorMember LegendaryPosts: 33,129

With last month's earnings report, the world learned a thing or two about Blizzard's Titan, most notably that it will not be a subscription-based title like its elder sibling, World of Warcraft. In today's Free Zone, we take a look at that tidbit of news and offer a few thoughts. Check it out!

Early this month, during the Q2 Activision Blizzard earnings conference call, Blizzard CEO Mike Morhaime stated that the long-awaited Project Titan is “unlikely” to be a subscription-based MMORPG. His choice of words didn't absolutely rule out the possibility, but it does seem quite reasonable to think it won't be. If we make this assumption, there are three main conclusions we can reach; it won't be subscription-based, it won't be an MMORPG, and it won't be either.  

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  • AnubisanAnubisan Member UncommonPosts: 1,798

    At this point I wonder if the game actually even exists...

    It has been years now and Blizzard has not released ANY concrete information at all. By the time they actually finish this game, no one may even care.

  • LordSneergLordSneerg Member Posts: 119
    Titan will flop. Blizzard was lucky to launch wow when it did. Wow was good during the start but became gradually worse as time went on. I don't have faith in blizzard... I truly believe they have no clue on what the gamer community wants. 
  • AffordableAffordable Member UncommonPosts: 41
    Blizzard is not the same company it was 10 years ago. SC2 and D3 are dreadful, and wow...is a joke.
  • CrazKanukCrazKanuk Member EpicPosts: 6,130
    Originally posted by Anubisan

    At this point I wonder if the game actually even exists...

    It has been years now and Blizzard has not released ANY concrete information at all. By the time they actually finish this game, no one may even care.

    You know, I've actually wondered this myself, since I first heard rumblings about it. Does anyone have anything concrete? 

     

    Could you imagine if Titan == WoW F2P? Why else would something be in development for years and then get pushed out another 3 years again? All the while, there's been nothing leaked as far as images, etc. There is no doubt that F2P WoW would be a titan. Either that or maybe Blizz is just really good at keeping secrets :) 

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  • Shadowguy64Shadowguy64 Member Posts: 848
    Originally posted by Affordable
    Blizzard is not the same company it was 10 years ago. SC2 and D3 are dreadful, and wow...is a joke.

     

    Completely disagree. D3, in it's current state, is awesome. But if you like skipping awesome games...carry on.

  • TalinthisTalinthis Member UncommonPosts: 26

    Nothing is subscription based anymore, so this is about as as surprising as idiots on the internet.

     

    i would rather pay a subscription though, it weeds a substantial chunk of annoying people out of the game, and for that i gladly pay.

  • aslan132aslan132 Member UncommonPosts: 630

    They havent released anything yet, because they didnt have anything yet. We all know they were just waiting for SOE to announce EQN, now they are hard at work copying it. 

     

    I would expect to start to see alot more on "Titan" in a few months, now that they actually know what it is they are copying. SOE did the best thing they could have done, and that is black box EQN, now Blizz is at least a year behind on developing "Titan"

  • SamhaelSamhael Member RarePosts: 1,534
    Originally posted by Shadowguy64
    Originally posted by Affordable
    Blizzard is not the same company it was 10 years ago. SC2 and D3 are dreadful, and wow...is a joke.

     

    Completely disagree. D3, in it's current state, is awesome. But if you like skipping awesome games...carry on.

    I checked it out again last week when I was bored.., Reinstalled, fired it up, gave it 5 or 6 hours of play, removed it, defragged my drive, and pretended I hadn't.  Obviously you and I have different definitions of "awesome games."  :)

  • R1zlaR1zla Member Posts: 25

    Blizzard are especially proud of the 'WoW clone' branding of every game that dares to be released in the mmorpg genre. Titan is actually almost finished. They were waiting to see EQN so they can cram all of its features into Titan asap and launch before EQN. That way EQN and any future game with similar features gets to be dubbed a Titan clone!

    Well played blizzard..... well played

  • spawn12345spawn12345 Member UncommonPosts: 172
    Originally posted by Shadowguy64
    Originally posted by Affordable
    Blizzard is not the same company it was 10 years ago. SC2 and D3 are dreadful, and wow...is a joke.

     

    Completely disagree. D3, in it's current state, is awesome. But if you like skipping awesome games...carry on.

    there is no sane person that thinks d3 is an awesome game.... maybe if you like stock market trading and find it fun then yeah d3 is for you

  • Shana77Shana77 Member UncommonPosts: 290
    Regarding the balance point for items in the cash shop, I do think that Arenanet have it down perfectly in GW2. It offers comfertable items, like XP and karma boosters which help you level just a bit faster, a lot of stuff that is just for looks like weapon and armor skins. These items are nice to have if you can miss the money, but none of them are necissary at all to enjoy your game or give you an advantage in any way in PvP or hardcore PVE. 
  • R1zlaR1zla Member Posts: 25

    Blizzard are especially proud of the 'WoW clone' branding of every game that dares to be released in the mmorpg genre. Titan is actually almost finished. They were waiting to see EQN so they can cram all of its features into Titan asap and launch before EQN. That way EQN and any future game with similar features gets to be dubbed a Titan clone!

    Well played blizzard..... well played

  • R1zlaR1zla Member Posts: 25

    wth is this. tells me my post is marked as spam and to complete the captcha. So i complete it and it still posted it the first time anyways lol. How to delete a post?

     

  • Loke666Loke666 Member EpicPosts: 21,441
    Originally posted by Anubisan

    At this point I wonder if the game actually even exists...

    It has been years now and Blizzard has not released ANY concrete information at all. By the time they actually finish this game, no one may even care.

    Something exists, they wouldn't move Kaplan to vaporware for several years. While it probably is unfair to say so, Kaplan did leave Wow at it's height and it have gone downhill ever since. No chance they would move him to a project they don't believe in.

    Then again, it is hard to say how complete the game is and it is very possible that Blizzard scrapped what they had and started over one time or more, they did so with both Diablo 2 & 3, while they never released Starcraft: Ghost.

    So I wouldn't be that surprised if they just have the engine and a few basics and the game wont release for 3-4 years. I am not saying it is so though just that it is a possibility.

    But I am sure something do exist even if I wont hold my breath while I wait for release.

  • MachkeznhoMachkeznho Member UncommonPosts: 429
    The mmorpg developers all seem to be suffering from an extreme case of monkey see-monkey do unfortunately what the monkey is seeing is complete crap.
  • Shadowguy64Shadowguy64 Member Posts: 848
    Originally posted by spawn12345
    Originally posted by Shadowguy64
    Originally posted by Affordable
    Blizzard is not the same company it was 10 years ago. SC2 and D3 are dreadful, and wow...is a joke.

     

    Completely disagree. D3, in it's current state, is awesome. But if you like skipping awesome games...carry on.

    there is no sane person that thinks d3 is an awesome game.... maybe if you like stock market trading and find it fun then yeah d3 is for you

     

    Oh, you mean the AH. I don't use it for anything other than selling. Buying gear cheeses the game IMO. Perhaps that is why so many are upset with it. They don't have any self control and must beat the game as quickly and in as efficient way possible and end up buying their gear on the AH...thus making any drops downgrades or sidegrades and removing any potential pleasure they might receive from getting that great drop.

     

     

  • ZorgoZorgo Member UncommonPosts: 2,254
    Originally posted by Samhael
    Originally posted by Shadowguy64
    Originally posted by Affordable
    Blizzard is not the same company it was 10 years ago. SC2 and D3 are dreadful, and wow...is a joke.

     

    Completely disagree. D3, in it's current state, is awesome. But if you like skipping awesome games...carry on.

    I checked it out again last week when I was bored.., Reinstalled, fired it up, gave it 5 or 6 hours of play, removed it, defragged my drive, and pretended I hadn't.  Obviously you and I have different definitions of "awesome games."  :)

    Sounds like someone who didn't know how to change the monster level imo....

     

     

  • BigmamajamaBigmamajama Member Posts: 198
    Originally posted by Zorgo
    Originally posted by Samhael
    Originally posted by Shadowguy64
    Originally posted by Affordable
    Blizzard is not the same company it was 10 years ago. SC2 and D3 are dreadful, and wow...is a joke.

     

    Completely disagree. D3, in it's current state, is awesome. But if you like skipping awesome games...carry on.

    I checked it out again last week when I was bored.., Reinstalled, fired it up, gave it 5 or 6 hours of play, removed it, defragged my drive, and pretended I hadn't.  Obviously you and I have different definitions of "awesome games."  :)

    Sounds like someone who didn't know how to change the monster level imo....

     

     

    I would agree with shadow tried it twice, combat just didn't keep me interested and this has nothing at all to with how long it takes to kill an NPC (adjusting the monster level as you call it).

    Its just uninteresting, the dungeons the worlds, the loot and itemization, the skill system,  just so generic.

  • mcrippinsmcrippins Member RarePosts: 1,642
    From what I have learned about Blizzard is that if the game is not up to their standards, than it simply wont be released. I'm sure people will speak up about Diablo 3. However, I really enjoyed this game, and even though it was missing some features. I was fine with the actual design and gameplay. Yet i'm sure it didn't meet the high expectations of many.
  • RedMachine72RedMachine72 Member UncommonPosts: 154

      Wow was a fluke. Released at just the right time on the heels of Warcraft III and was swept up in a rush of people wanting to play in the Warcraft III world openly. It was a great game to begin with, then the expansions started. BC was good, gave the game a little bit more. Then Lich King hit and it started downhill with Activision buying up Blizzard about 6 months before. Things started to be rushed out the door then. LK was going to be delayed before Activision stepped in and said it was going to release, with or without everything that was supposed to be in it. I still play it and I do enjoy it somewhat. I just wish they had not made it "faceroll for the win" to attract new players, it was already casual enough.

      Not sure if I would play Titan, even without any info on it. Every FTP game I have been in holds my interest for about 2-3 months, just until it gets frustrating because you have to be nickled and dimed to death to play like it should with a sub.

     

  • MathadarMathadar Member UncommonPosts: 23
    The article also states that Blizzard is pulling people off the Titan project to work on other titles that will release shortly.
  • RidelynnRidelynn Member EpicPosts: 7,383
    Originally posted by Anubisan

    At this point I wonder if the game actually even exists...

    It has been years now and Blizzard has not released ANY concrete information at all. By the time they actually finish this game, no one may even care.

    This is Blizzard you are talking about. Since when are they ever in a hurry to release ~anything~.

    How long did it take for SC2? D3?

    I wouldn't hold my breath on Titan, and I think a "2-3 year" release date as estimated by anyone, including an internal Blizzard source, is smoking something good. I would say we'd be lucky to see released in 5 years, and would not be shocked if it's not until 2020 or later, and be totally serious about that.

  • IncomparableIncomparable Member UncommonPosts: 1,138

    Maybe Titan was a fake project by blizzard devs to steal WoW money. To put more in thier pocket becuase they 'deserve' it.

    Strange that they would scrap something that so far does not exist... and all of a sudden with certain eyes watchings... its a smaller project that is f2p.

    Assuming its smaller since f2p means it will take longer to pay back the original investment. So why call it Titan?

    “Write bad things that are done to you in sand, but write the good things that happen to you on a piece of marble”

  • daltaniousdaltanious Member UncommonPosts: 2,381
    Snif, somehow at start when first time heard I was hoping Titan will be kind of Wow 2. I'm not interested in anything else. Just hope they will continue to develop and support Wow. They  have dumbed down to much for my taste, but on the other hand have implemented many improvements that I'm stil happy. Other problem is ... when you play for so long ANY game I wonder how this influenced wish to continue to play. As known :-) my new best game ever is for some time SWTOR, but Wow is still close. Other factor to consider is now (compared even to maybe 3 years back) there are many choices, some at least acceptable.
  • OzmodanOzmodan Member EpicPosts: 9,726

    I suggest you wait for an actual game announcement before speculating on how the game will be funded.  My bet will be there will be a sub option.   The big AAA titles have been successful with their f2p implementations having that sub option around because a lot of players use it.

     

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