What SOG is bad? Then ebay your keys if you can. Maybe though before you critisize something give a reason why or maybe wait a week or two and give us a proper review.
Originally posted by Fratman It's so bad I'm almost having second thoughts about Ebaying my keys. I don't think anyone else deserves to go through this kind of torture. Ouch.
How did you not think it would be like this? The development company never made a game before and the publishing company never published a game before on a professional level. Wait for the better game to come out, Vanguard.
Originally posted by Fratman It's so bad I'm almost having second thoughts about Ebaying my keys. I don't think anyone else deserves to go through this kind of torture. Ouch.
Do you have special access to the game that we don't?
I got to play the game for about an hour. I am so disappointed Im almost physically sick. lol This game is not even close to being playable, maybe 2 years if they get crackin.
1. Terrible animations.
2. Choppy play style.
3. 1999 graphics.
4. Combat is a joke.
5. Way to buggy to have truly been in beta for 2 years and development for 4 years.
6. No mobs to kill just an empty world.
I realize this isnt DnL but it IS what they have made up untill this point and it is not even a playable game. They took the game website down till the 15th because they know the flames will be raging.
Do you have special access to the game that we don't?
yes, actually. it's called a pioneer account. maybe you've heard of it.
j/k. seriously though, this game is crap. i can't even log in. i just get a damn run-time error. somethin about a missing file. this is what happens when u go peer-to-peer for distribution. and since i paid $60, they could at least have sent me a cd or something with the game on it. or at least enough to patch everything when i log in. why is farlan so cheap?
Originally posted by Afton I got to play the game for about an hour. I am so disappointed Im almost physically sick. lol This game is not even close to being playable, maybe 2 years if they get crackin. 1. Terrible animations. Seem fine to me for being a) A prequel to the full game and b) First day of playable SoG servers. 2. Choppy play style. Helloooo? It's the first day bub. It's called "Server Lag". 3. 1999 graphics. Wow, you're 1999 is my 2004. I agree, they aren't up to date, but they sure as hell aren't that old. 4. Combat is a joke. What an exciting joke! 5. Way to buggy to have truly been in beta for 2 years and development for 4 years. Dumbass. 1st day of public servers. 6. No mobs to kill just an empty world. WOW! What game are you playing, crazy? Plenty of mobs...also you said "Combat is a joke." How could you experience combat with no mobs, eh? (Sounds like your just pulling excuses to complain out of your ass =D) I realize this isnt DnL but it IS what they have made up untill this point and it is not even a playable game. They took the game website down till the 15th because they know the flames will be raging. NO, SoG does not have all of what the developers have finished. The outlaw system , high end magic and the crafting systems are complete, they may need some touch ups, but however they ARE complete.
If you don't want your key I have a friend who will pay full price for it.
SoG is basically a very watered-down version of DnL that fans of the game can play for free for a few months until DnL is launched. And when I say very watered-down, I mean it. They can't devote too many resources to it. Don't expect much from it.
And it's not a beta test either. SoG is it's own little mini-game.
Originally posted by Sheista Vanguard.. LOLIf you want an EQ 1 clone with new graphics, go for it. As for SoG.. I havn't played, so I'll wait for my own thoughts till I -get- to play.
Originally posted by holycannoli SoG is not DnL! Why does nobody understand this? SoG is basically a very watered-down version of DnL that fans of the game can play for free for a few months until DnL is launched. And when I say very watered-down, I mean it. They can't devote too many resources to it. Don't expect much from it. And it's not a beta test either. SoG is it's own little mini-game. Geez some people really have no clue.
I agree with you there. Sog is NOT an open-beta, regardless of people's false ideas. Farlan themselves have promoted SoG as a "prequel" to DnL. That was a mistake. If it was promoted as a beta, then, they could hide behind that. Too bad for them I guess.
Farlan knows they are going to be under the gun with SoG. They have never released any game so, it stands to reason that they would have made SoG as best they could. Apparently, their best just sucks.
If you really think DnL will be outstanding by April '06 (that's 4 months, and some change, away) then you have no need for a MMORPG...you are already living in a fantasy world.
Originally posted by holycannoli SoG is not DnL! Why does nobody understand this? SoG is basically a very watered-down version of DnL that fans of the game can play for free for a few months until DnL is launched. And when I say very watered-down, I mean it. They can't devote too many resources to it. Don't expect much from it. And it's not a beta test either. SoG is it's own little mini-game. Geez some people really have no clue.
SoG is Dark and Lights reputation, it is Farlans chance to prove they are able to run a fun/functioning game. Although it may not be titled Dark and Light, it is a preview of whats to come. If you are trying to suggest we should witness the extreme inability to keep servers running/allow people to log in for more then 2 hours as not a big deal from a no name company... you my friend, deserved to part with 60 dollars...
Example
Im playing basketball and I know some professional scouts are going to come watch me.. THIS IS MY ONE BIG CHANCE TO PROVE MY WORTH.. Do i tell myself "Hey this isnt a big deal, its only practice with what maybe my only opportunity to get drafted into the NBA" or do i say "I need to give it my all and impress these scouts because this maybe my only opportunity to get drafted into the NBA"
Quite frankly, anyone that picks the first option is a flat out loser and you are suggesting Farlan decided to go with option number 1. If thats the case, i feel sorry for anyone that supports the ideology. Now if SoE or another respected company attempted to pull this off, well they have already proven they are BIG DOGS and may have a little bit more leverage to work with, however this if Farlans death in many peoples view.
I'll probably get banned for this but guys, seriously.. don't hold your breath on this game. We've been in the beta for a while.. and it's not looking good.
Originally posted by Afton I got to play the game for about an hour. I am so disappointed Im almost physically sick. lol This game is not even close to being playable, maybe 2 years if they get crackin. 1. Terrible animations. 2. Choppy play style. 3. 1999 graphics. 4. Combat is a joke. 5. Way to buggy to have truly been in beta for 2 years and development for 4 years. 6. No mobs to kill just an empty world. I realize this isnt DnL but it IS what they have made up untill this point and it is not even a playable game. They took the game website down till the 15th because they know the flames will be raging.
I am going to agree with this guy 100% ... don't forget to mention the UI ... horrible. Really upset with character customization, hope there are more options than 3 options of customization for the entire character.
I'm reserving judgement for 6 months from now. A lot can change from now to then, and it hopefully will. I hope they're examining closely what's going on and taking steps to solve all these problems for DnL's launch.
And the beta testers saying it's not looking good has me worried. But like I said, a lot can change 6 months from now.
This game is gonna bomb big time. I really don't think the game can improve that much in 6 months. There is too much wrong with the core design of the game. Frankly i havn't decided what i will do with my 2 pioneer keys yet, but i have a feeling i will be disputing the charges with my credit card company.
Movement is just horrible, combat is a huge joke. The only thing i actually liked so far was flying on the dragon. So for that i may as well buy a flight sim.
As for that person comparing vanguard to a EQ1 with better graphics. That is what you need in a game is one that the UI and design of the game handle like EQ or WoW. Stable and user friendly.
Originally posted by pbradish I'll probably get banned for this but guys, seriously.. don't hold your breath on this game. We've been in the beta for a while.. and it's not looking good.
Originally posted by eddieoctane Originally posted by Dreyyvan Do you have special access to the game that we don't? yes, actually. it's called a pioneer account. maybe you've heard of it.
j/k. seriously though, this game is crap. i can't even log in. i just get a damn run-time error. somethin about a missing file. this is what happens when u go peer-to-peer for distribution. and since i paid $60, they could at least have sent me a cd or something with the game on it. or at least enough to patch everything when i log in. why is farlan so cheap?
If you encounter this Runtime error, please delete the files called dnl.ini and dnl.cfg, then from the launcher, do a full integrity check in order to download these files again.
If these files do not appear in that directory, you will need to turn on hidden file types. To do so, please select the "Tools" option at the top of your open foler, then select "Folder Options." Next, click the "View" tab and select "Show Hidden Files."
Got that from AC ticket I opened for same problem.
people are either really negative about this game (maybe because they dont wanna get thier hopes up only to be let down like so many other games) or people are just really positive and defend this game like it was thier mothers.
but in the end, we all just want this game to live up to our expectations, its just that people have different ways of coping with dissapointment.
The core gameplay of SoG will apply to DnL. They will (theoretically) improve it, add more content, and improve server performance. But the core gameplay will stay the same so stating that "SoG isn't DnL" doesn't hold much way in defending a poor quality product.
To all of the genius' who say SOG is NOT DNL; yes we know that. But it is using the same code and takign stuff from the beta. How do you think they got the landscapes, villages, etc. LOL
Sure its not DNL; its a watered down version of stuff; but I guarantee when you log in on the first day of DNL a lot of the landscape will look the same, etc. SO please do not think we are idiots with your posts. Bottom line is this stuff we are seeing that is supposedly finished enough to put out as a prequel is NOT any good. UI is horrible, gameplay is bad, you name it like everyone else has pointed out. For a game that has been in development for years it should be a lot better than this period. So do not give me crap about its not DNL.
You can't make the type of progress needed in 4 months to change things drastically; so do not keep feeding the BS about wait til April. 4 months is NOT a long time to put in a ton of changes and overhaul stuff.
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What SOG is bad? Then ebay your keys if you can. Maybe though before you critisize something give a reason why or maybe wait a week or two and give us a proper review.
How did you not think it would be like this? The development company never made a game before and the publishing company never published a game before on a professional level. Wait for the better game to come out, Vanguard.
dont ebay a key. Give it to me. Please. I want to see how bad it is.
Vanguard.. LOL
If you want an EQ 1 clone with new graphics, go for it. As for SoG.. I havn't played, so I'll wait for my own thoughts till I -get- to play.
I got to play the game for about an hour. I am so disappointed Im almost physically sick. lol This game is not even close to being playable, maybe 2 years if they get crackin.
1. Terrible animations.
2. Choppy play style.
3. 1999 graphics.
4. Combat is a joke.
5. Way to buggy to have truly been in beta for 2 years and development for 4 years.
6. No mobs to kill just an empty world.
I realize this isnt DnL but it IS what they have made up untill this point and it is not even a playable game. They took the game website down till the 15th because they know the flames will be raging.
yes, actually. it's called a pioneer account. maybe you've heard of it.
j/k. seriously though, this game is crap. i can't even log in. i just get a damn run-time error. somethin about a missing file. this is what happens when u go peer-to-peer for distribution. and since i paid $60, they could at least have sent me a cd or something with the game on it. or at least enough to patch everything when i log in. why is farlan so cheap?
SoG is not DnL! Why does nobody understand this?
SoG is basically a very watered-down version of DnL that fans of the game can play for free for a few months until DnL is launched. And when I say very watered-down, I mean it. They can't devote too many resources to it. Don't expect much from it.
And it's not a beta test either. SoG is it's own little mini-game.
Geez some people really have no clue.
Well actually, that is kinda what I want.
I agree with you there. Sog is NOT an open-beta, regardless of people's false ideas. Farlan themselves have promoted SoG as a "prequel" to DnL. That was a mistake. If it was promoted as a beta, then, they could hide behind that. Too bad for them I guess.
Farlan knows they are going to be under the gun with SoG. They have never released any game so, it stands to reason that they would have made SoG as best they could. Apparently, their best just sucks.
If you really think DnL will be outstanding by April '06 (that's 4 months, and some change, away) then you have no need for a MMORPG...you are already living in a fantasy world.
SoG is Dark and Lights reputation, it is Farlans chance to prove they are able to run a fun/functioning game. Although it may not be titled Dark and Light, it is a preview of whats to come. If you are trying to suggest we should witness the extreme inability to keep servers running/allow people to log in for more then 2 hours as not a big deal from a no name company... you my friend, deserved to part with 60 dollars...
Example
Im playing basketball and I know some professional scouts are going to come watch me.. THIS IS MY ONE BIG CHANCE TO PROVE MY WORTH.. Do i tell myself "Hey this isnt a big deal, its only practice with what maybe my only opportunity to get drafted into the NBA" or do i say "I need to give it my all and impress these scouts because this maybe my only opportunity to get drafted into the NBA"
Quite frankly, anyone that picks the first option is a flat out loser and you are suggesting Farlan decided to go with option number 1. If thats the case, i feel sorry for anyone that supports the ideology. Now if SoE or another respected company attempted to pull this off, well they have already proven they are BIG DOGS and may have a little bit more leverage to work with, however this if Farlans death in many peoples view.
I'll probably get banned for this but guys, seriously.. don't hold your breath on this game. We've been in the beta for a while.. and it's not looking good.
I'm reserving judgement for 6 months from now. A lot can change from now to then, and it hopefully will. I hope they're examining closely what's going on and taking steps to solve all these problems for DnL's launch.
And the beta testers saying it's not looking good has me worried. But like I said, a lot can change 6 months from now.
This game is gonna bomb big time. I really don't think the game can improve that much in 6 months. There is too much wrong with the core design of the game. Frankly i havn't decided what i will do with my 2 pioneer keys yet, but i have a feeling i will be disputing the charges with my credit card company.
Movement is just horrible, combat is a huge joke. The only thing i actually liked so far was flying on the dragon. So for that i may as well buy a flight sim.
As for that person comparing vanguard to a EQ1 with better graphics. That is what you need in a game is one that the UI and design of the game handle like EQ or WoW. Stable and user friendly.
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If these files do not appear in that directory, you will need to turn on hidden file types. To do so, please select the "Tools" option at the top of your open foler, then select "Folder Options." Next, click the "View" tab and select "Show Hidden Files."
Got that from AC ticket I opened for same problem.
people are either really negative about this game (maybe because they dont wanna get thier hopes up only to be let down like so many other games) or people are just really positive and defend this game like it was thier mothers.
but in the end, we all just want this game to live up to our expectations, its just that people have different ways of coping with dissapointment.
The core gameplay of SoG will apply to DnL. They will (theoretically) improve it, add more content, and improve server performance. But the core gameplay will stay the same so stating that "SoG isn't DnL" doesn't hold much way in defending a poor quality product.
To all of the genius' who say SOG is NOT DNL; yes we know that. But it is using the same code and takign stuff from the beta. How do you think they got the landscapes, villages, etc. LOL
Sure its not DNL; its a watered down version of stuff; but I guarantee when you log in on the first day of DNL a lot of the landscape will look the same, etc. SO please do not think we are idiots with your posts. Bottom line is this stuff we are seeing that is supposedly finished enough to put out as a prequel is NOT any good. UI is horrible, gameplay is bad, you name it like everyone else has pointed out. For a game that has been in development for years it should be a lot better than this period. So do not give me crap about its not DNL.
You can't make the type of progress needed in 4 months to change things drastically; so do not keep feeding the BS about wait til April. 4 months is NOT a long time to put in a ton of changes and overhaul stuff.