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iamct2327iamct2327 Member Posts: 162

I am going to play WOW, way better than this crap. Give me a break after all of this crap cannot login to the damn game. Stay away from small devs like this, I am sticking to the big boys for now. Well its off the a Galaxy far far away, at least their game works. This is a joke, unexperienced game devs, IT guys working for NP cube and Farlan. These guys are not going to make a dime on this game, its probably going to get shutdown before release since they have no clue what they are doing. The devs should travel to America and go to Blizzards office and take a lesson on how to program an MMO from blizzards devs.


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  • Actually after consideration I would like to take back every bad statement I've made about SoE in the past.... this game makes them look like GODS....

  • SorrowSorrow Member Posts: 1,195



    Originally posted by birdseeds

    Actually after consideration I would like to take back every bad statement I've made about SoE in the past.... this game makes them look like GODS....



    Oh for the love of.. now knock this crap off. You people are going to far saying nice stuff about SOE.

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  • Redd-Dragon7Redd-Dragon7 Member Posts: 13


    Originally posted by birdseeds
    Actually after consideration I would like to take back every bad statement I've made about SoE in the past.... this game makes them look like GODS....

    I seriously do not understand why the hell this is a shock to you.

    I never excepted this game to be good. I thought this would be something I can fill my time up with until Vanguard comes out. Well, I guess I cannot even do that.

    You’re not supposed to trust a company without knowledge of them. Everyone who wasted their money on being a Pioneer deserves no sympathy. Farlan Entertainment. Have you ever heard of them before? They don’t even have a phone number!

    You do not spend money on a game without being able to trust the publisher. Vivendi, Microsoft Game Studios, Sony Online Entertainment, etc. may have their problems with games, but they are professionals who you can trust with your money.

    I am sure some fanboy is going to quote me and tell me how I am wrong and how this game is going to double the subscription rates of Linage 1 & 2 plus WoW, but you’ll see when Dark and Light comes out.

  • blacksacblacksac Member Posts: 1,045

    Hi birdseeds,

    Have you played SoG?

    Just trying to see how much you know  image

     

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  • Originally posted by Redd-Dragon7
    I seriously do not understand why the hell this is a shock to you.
     



    Actually, im not shocked.. I simply made a statement about inner regrets for simple complaints I use to express about SOE...

    Yes at one point, I trusted Farlan, shame on me... thankfully something happened prior to SoGs release and I was able to witness the game and determine how unprofessional it truly is.. I avoided purchasing it, however, a very close friend of mine pre ordered the game for a laugh or two...

    No one needs to hype Vanguard to me... the game will be a stroke of genius, simply brilliant.. However im vastly disappointed DnL was not able to provide entertainment until it's released image

  • tsr56tsr56 Member Posts: 98
    I didnt pay for a key..  I am going to play Battlefield 2..   Its free. and about ohh a zillion times more fun to play.  heh
  • DysmetriaDysmetria Member Posts: 17

    I really can't understand how anyone can defend AD/Farlan/NPCube at this point.

    What other MMO shut down their forums and ignored every valid customer support request on the day of launch? How can we expect them to handle a full release when they can't manage to communicate with or support even 18881 players?

  • gobijuangobijuan Member Posts: 6

    Simply put it's just bad marketing... Farland sould have just marketed this as an open beta and not a prelude to the game... Beta testerz knew that the game was not ready ... and were hoping that the Devs knew something that they didn't ...

    SoG is for all intents and purposes a Beta ... Should have been called that ...

    I personally feel bad for Farland... and know that this game has alot of potential...

    /fingerz crossed...

  • SorrowSorrow Member Posts: 1,195

    All I can say at this point is...

     

    We have a very long way to go still, stand by them, or don't stand by them. The choice is ultimately yours.

     

    I've been in game about 2 hours total and I feel totally justified standing beside them and giving them the time and support they need to bring this title to fruition.

    I can however understand how frustrated some of you are, and how aggrivating it must be for pioneers that still havent gotten a chance in game at all.

    I have seen them make alot of unpopular moves and some management mistakes, but this isn't the first small shop I've seen make bad moves. God knows even the big 3 make mistakes, SOE, Origin, and even Blizzard have all pissed their fans off once or twice.

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  • AftonAfton Member Posts: 13
    The game is unplayable right now. The people who say its not are just excited they finally got to see it and are still playing on adrenelin(sp). I cant see DnL ever launching as I feel they will only have a community of a few hundred people at max come this spring. A big world is cool but unless you have thousands to fill it it will seem very empty.
  • AllerumAllerum Member UncommonPosts: 43

    YOU CAN NOT compare development times of Farlan and SOE OR BIllard. THey have probably half the team so it takes TWICE as long to make. To judge them by any other standard besides the small guy is dumb. DnL will not be an easy street game. IE Live for Speed took 4-5 rys 2 make in which they are not done BUT it is better than any other pc Racing sim out. Ive seen that game go from crap to good BUT it took A LOT longer than the USUAL amount it takes BECAUSE they are a SMALL team.

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  • mcm501mcm501 Member Posts: 13

    i played all yesterday, and didnt expect much going in, MOSTLY, because, who would release a client 4 months before the game is supposed to be released and have it be near complete, despite what they say, this is a massive-free beta, call what you want, but its DnL version 0.8 something. Ive played games in beta that went on to be HUGE a few weeks before its release that were worse off than this. The graphics are amazing. They set your config up based on your maching on "engines" 1-6, i was recommended 4, i moved down to 3 with out seeing much of a difference and the game runs perfectly smooth for me. Flying is amazing and once you get the controls down and how to build character skills it starts to become worth it. Most people who have quit and are frustrated probably spent 2 hours in game and gave up cause they could figure out how to play the game, as for not being able to kill level 1 monsters, you need to equip your weapon, when your character is created you just have a torch in your hand that does 1 dmg against mobs. Also, there is one quest that I found where you start and thats it, but I seriously recommend the first thing a newcomer does is hop on their dragon and fly somewhere else away from the newbs, theres plenty of mobs out there and the game is so massive I was able to find places where I was hunting alone but still in a barony to ask questions over general chat if I had any.
    My only problems with the game were connection losses dnlg.exe errors, I went to my video card website and dl'd drivers and it made a difference somehow.

    They can call what they want, but they basically gave us a free beta account to a game that will have a lot to offer. From what I understand, they will test new releases (crafting etc, maybe some more npcs that function :P) and then release it into SoG and continue like that until April. I had stated before that this release is insanely risky business wise for any company, already people are saying it sucks, and that voice will carry to anyone as ignorant as them and turn them away from the game. Personally, Ive been playing WoW since beta and im tired of that shit, its the same thing day-day, this is something new and creative and it can only get better so Im sticking with it.

  • HeLiumHeLium Member Posts: 2

    Uhm usually when I was playing EvE wich is also a one-server-only-cluster-thingy everytime there was a huge addon or server  problem the game would be just on-off the next day or two due to lag-bugs-people getting stuck between systems or in station-graphic problems. So you would probably expect more than one hotfix. It's just the way things work. Live with it, Grab a beer and watch some telly or go out and run of a few pounds or round up the fellas and go play some footie.

     

  • TymoraTymora Member UncommonPosts: 1,295



    Originally posted by Dysmetria

    I really can't understand how anyone can defend AD/Farlan/NPCube at this point.
    What other MMO shut down their forums and ignored every valid customer support request on the day of launch? How can we expect them to handle a full release when they can't manage to communicate with or support even 18881 players?



    Yes, well said.  No matter how good or bad the game turns out to be, this was a big mistake, and they've lost the last shred of confidence I had in them after they did this.

     

  • AllerumAllerum Member UncommonPosts: 43

    Farlan is a SMALL COMPANY not A BIG ONE. that means IT TAKES LONGER TO DO EVERYTHING! BUT they end result is what THEY want not someguys in SUITS! Though it will take longer it will be better because they have their own vision and they will achieve it no matter how long it takes. Give it AT LEAST A WEEK! jeez its DAY 1-2. They got sog FROM the BETA so it still needs work. Also consider this 18K PEOPLE ARE TRYING 2 GET ON AT THE SAME TIME! ON THE SAME SERVER they said DNL WILL HAVE 100K CAPACITY NOT SOG! The reason for the server up arrow is becuase its up BUT NOT THE LOGIN SERVER. The login sever is whats down NOT the game. The game may support 18k BUT nobody said the limit of the Login sever.

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  • Rayx0rRayx0r Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 2,902

    theres a difference between optimism, and being naive

    how many npc's are in the prelude?

    how many quests?

    so, how is the *cough* crafting?

    what about the aliasing in the graphics?

    what about the character creation?

    how bout those animations?

    hmm.. I know..  the "Megapatch 2006" is coming soon to re-create D&L and make it the best game that ever was!!

    I wish I could build an empire on ignorance

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  • wabbachawabbacha Member Posts: 26



    Originally posted by Rayx0r

    theres a difference between optimism, and being naive
    how many npc's are in the prelude?
    how many quests?
    so, how is the *cough* crafting?
    what about the aliasing in the graphics?
    what about the character creation?
    how bout those animations?
    hmm.. I know..  the "Megapatch 2006" is coming soon to re-create D&L and make it the best game that ever was!!
    I wish I could build an empire on ignorance



    lmao, if you jedi's don't like it, than why are you spending all this time slamming it....

     

    oh ya i know why, becuase if you do, you'll get your way just like in swg and get everything nerfed and turned into a console game image

  • Pulsar7Pulsar7 Member Posts: 9

    Well, for starters, I'm no fanboy type of guy or a troll...just an ordinary gamer who is usually indifferent to all the politics/flaming, but I have to say...

    This SoG thing is the shittiest abomination on the mmorpg scene i have seen in a while. I got a free settler account and am yet to be able to login. Getting the same crap everyone else is. Been following the DnL development for several months now and greadually things just started to not add up. Lack of info, promises promises everywhere but ultimately it turned out to be lies or just plain BS, etc...

    My god, these Farlan guys are a disgrace to game developers. I have not seen such a disjointed incompetant display as this. Maybe there has been worse but I haven't seen it. Back to EQII and Guild Wars for me....

    God help those that paid $60 for this. I'd be spewing right now if I had...

  • GlavianGlavian Member Posts: 32



    Originally posted by Pulsar7

    Well, for starters, I'm no fanboy type of guy or a troll...just an ordinary gamer who is usually indifferent to all the politics/flaming, but I have to say...
    This SoG thing is the shittiest abomination on the mmorpg scene i have seen in a while. I got a free settler account and am yet to be able to login. Getting the same crap everyone else is. Been following the DnL development for several months now and greadually things just started to not add up. Lack of info, promises promises everywhere but ultimately it turned out to be lies or just plain BS, etc...
    My god, these Farlan guys are a disgrace to game developers. I have not seen such a disjointed incompetant display as this. Maybe there has been worse but I haven't seen it. Back to EQII and Guild Wars for me....
    God help those that paid $60 for this. I'd be spewing right now if I had...



    I agree.

    I have been through the startup of many different MMORPG's and have never ever seen trouble this bad.

    DAoC, SWG, WoW, EQII, etc..etc..

    All of the above had miscellanious issues with server crashes or lag from time to time, but none of them had the immense issues that SoG is seeing.

    -Errors in the launcher

    -Can't login bugs

    -DnLg.exe encountered a problem

    -Servers down more than up

    -Little to no content even in the game

    I would like to see this game succeed as much as anyone else, but this is bordering on fraud at the moment. I know the $60.00 people have dished out for Pioneer keys was for DnL in April, but to claim they are starting up a game that would rock the MMO world and then see this pathetic exuse for a program is just insane.

    NP3 really screwed themselves with this, I doubt they will have half the subscribers in April that they would have had if they could have delivered on their promises.

  • Kaynos1972Kaynos1972 Member Posts: 2,316

    WOW .... ok

    EQ2...  ok

    SWG ... are you nuts ?

  • PureDamagePureDamage Member Posts: 13
    Aye, same....this is not looking too pretty.  But its still early.  Hard to tell considering I have been wating more than 12 hours to play just to see what the beta actualy looks and feels like in game but haven't seen it for myself.  I'm not going to bitch about the game being down or whatnot, just I haven't seen a MMO having all these massive problems even in the beggining of beta.  Maybe early Alpha but certainly not Beta. 
  • CrimedawgCrimedawg Member Posts: 5

    I think the people that are most upset are the ones who actually believed ‘this is NOT a beta but simply a gift to our fans’ line that was delivered.

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    I have yet to log in (will try tonight) but this game sounds Alpha at best and I for one am in no way surprised. 

     

    I think if everyone takes a deep breath and realizes the stage of the project, they will understand the game will be improved and tweaked with every week that passes.

     

    Being in the gaming biz myself I totally understand the stress and workload these guys are under.  Could they have gone about it in a better way or done things different?  Of course.  But no way in heck was I going to send them 60 bux simply because they haven’t proven anything to me and do not communicate well enough (yet?).  I’ll definitely give them a chance to improve the game over the next few months and see where it leads.  C’mon, it is free now to play and get a small taste of what DnL will be all about. 

     

    Guess you can call that a ‘gift’ but I prefer to call it open beta as the dev. Team will no doubt tweak and learn a ton (hopefully) from what is happening.  No reason to get all upset over a game.  If this is a problem, shut down the pc and go outside for god sakes! image

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  • CrimedawgCrimedawg Member Posts: 5

    double post for the lose  image

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  • GlavianGlavian Member Posts: 32



    Originally posted by Crimedawg

    I think the people that are most upset are the ones who actually believed ‘this is NOT a beta but simply a gift to our fans’ line that was delivered.
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    I have yet to log in (will try tonight) but this game sounds Alpha at best and I for one am in no way surprised. 
     
    I think if everyone takes a deep breath and realizes the stage of the project, they will understand the game will be improved and tweaked with every week that passes.
     



    I would understand this and have no issues with the current situation if the game had been under developement for a few months,  but this game has been under developement for over 3 years. The previous release date for the full DnL game was supposed to be Nov of 2004, then Nov 2005, now April 2006 with SoG as a so called free game to reward fans.

    I really am in no hurry to get in to the game, I have way too many other things to do. But I feel pretty bad for those who are avid gamers and are anxious for this game, since NP3 has not delivered anything to show for the 3 years people have been waiting for it.

  • MrBWMrBW Member Posts: 2

    B E T A !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

     

    Every release has these issues. You are incredibly nieve to believe that this game is a polished package ready for general release. These ppl have invested years in developement and have all the elements in place. It just needs some polishing up and stress testing. That is where it is and nothing more.  You are helping these ppl acheive the vision they started out with a couple of years ago so do your part and contribute to the process. Dont whine that it is not up to WoW standards. You are fools if you do. Withhold your sarcasm and negativity until the official release.

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