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low fps? suggestions?
Atlasprime
Member Posts: 61
Hi all. Some may recall me from an earlier hardware related thread. Anyways now that the show is on again, I decided to ditch windows 8 and start on a nice clwan windows 7 install. Grabbed the latest drivers for my gtx 680 and restablished my 3.6ghz oc of my 930 i7. Im currently looking down the street of uldah and I am sitting at 38-40 fps... community feedback is leading me to believe this is pretty low. Any suggestions I should try?
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Are you trying to run everything on max settings? If you've got max settings and high enough resolution you can bring practically any computer to its knees.
You could also try downloading beta drivers for your graphic card.
I have read on Toms Hardware and Guru3d that Nvidia is having major problems with their drivers.
Try downgrading to a lower version untill you hit the sweet spot.
What works for you doesnt have to work for me.
I ditched my 670 for a 7950 and never looked back.
getting 60 fps on max settings with slight overclock
Times have changed it seems, in the past it was Ati with crap drivers haha
Anyway, i think its a driver problem as you have good hardware, i cant comment on the I7 tough, its a little dated now but it shoulnt be a problem.
But it might hold back your GPU tough, but iam not sure.
You do know don't you that the human brain eye combo can only see at roughly 30 FPS?
thank you. I will also try some of the older drivers
I have heard this before and agree when I am watching things move around me. I can easily feel the difference between 30 and 60 when actually moving my mouse around to look.ultimately I can play the game but I am ocd when it comes to things not working the way they should.
Look everyone, it's this complete bullplop reply again, which seems to rear its head in every thread pertaining to FPS ever
Not to mention they say a different framerate every time, because most people don't actually have a clue. Spoiler Alert big guy, if it was 30, you wouldn't notice a different between films that are at 23.9 and ones that are at 48.
Currently playing - FF14ARR
Previous games - SWG, World of Warcraft, ShadowBane, Warhammer, Age of Conan, Darkfall, Planetside Asheron's Call, Everquest, Everquest 2, Too many.
nVidia drivers seem to be all over the place.
Right now, I'd recommend just turning down some of the silly options:
Make sure Occlusion Culling is On
LOD is On
LOD Streaming is On
Turn shadows down - use LOD models for shadows, Shadow resolution down, etc.
Turn Screen Space Ambient Occlusion off for now
Once you've got those options all set, see if you get better FPS, and then slowly start turning the options back up until you find the sweet spot.
Thank you much for the tweaking suggestions. I will certainly focus on these areas should I not uncover my issue of not being able to run at max with other 680 users.I just dont get why drivers for one person wouldnt yield the same results for another (same driver)
I am super curious what some of the older drivers might bring to the table
One fellow had a gtx 780 sitting at under 60 fps as well. That sounds crazy bad lol.
It's just a matter of optimization and clock speed. Once nVidia gets their drivers tweaked the game will run like a champ. This was an AMD title this time around, so AMD got a chance to tweak their drivers early on, and AMD folks are seeing more consistent results. Give nVidia a couple-3 weeks and it will be back on par.
Besides, ~only~ having a steady and consistent 40fps with the game on MAX MAX isn't all doom and gloom... you still have the option to turn options down; it's not like your already at minimum settings and struggling to play.
aye. 1080 max is just my testing setup. I enjoy playing 5760x1080. It runs really smooth on the lower presets. Was hoping if I got 15 or so of my fps back I could possibly get away with 30 to 40 fps on max via 5760 instead of the 20 I currently getRegarding to that another thought: How many characters were you looking at in Ul'Dah?
If you're getting 38-40fps in a city full of people, you could very well get stable 60 fps in anywhere outside the city. But this is just an idea, I don't have good enough computer that I'd know how many characters will FF XIV draw at max settings when in a busy city.
EDIT: Though it wouldn't still solve the problem of not getting good enough FPS with 3 monitor setup
only a few characters while looking down the road. I am noticing that a lot of characters on the screen is not impacting my performence as expected.Some brains detect more then the 30 fps, its proven and iam 1000% sure its a myth when people say you dont see more then 30 fps.
I can gues how much FPS i have in any game and iam mostly 5 frames per second off when guesing.
If you have a good rig and re used to 60 fps and you switch to DCUO for example wich is capped at 30 fps you just start laughing.
If you are a competitive gamer and play fps games or other likewise games you need 60 fps or your performance goes down.
At least i notice my focus / concentration goes down when it starts dipping below 50 fps.
Some brains are just noticing this more then others i gues ?
Since i played quake 1998 and counter-strike up untill last year i can tell the diferenece betwine 90fps and 100, its all about prectice.
Tip for fps: go to Character configuration > Character > and mess a bit with "Battle Effects settings" you basickly can disable them all and its good for zerg fates
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having same problems with a GTX680M :P .. lowering the drivers however didnt help.
So far ive managed to turn my settings down so much (nvidia control panel to) that i can handle the fps drops and stay above 60 in most places aside from big towns.. but my gpu certainly should do waaay better cause the graphics i play at are.. well.. they are managable.. and it looks better then WoW.. but everything is said with that XD
https://ashesofcreation.com/r/Y4U3PQCASUPJ5SED
There's definitely something wrong here, I'm on mostly max settings on a 670 and never go below 60 in the most crowded FATES and mainly stay above 80. You're problem though, may be your processor. I know it seems fast an all but it's pretty old, I use to have one and when I upgraded to my 4670K my FPS in MMOS shot up by 10-20 fps. That was with having the 670 on a 930 and on my new cpu, so cpu bottlenecking of your gpu may be the issue. MMOs are much more CPU dependent then any other genre.
And to people who say you can't see over 30 fps, you have no idea how human the human eye works. It doesn't take so many pictures every second like a screen does, it's much more complicated then that. A simple explanation is that the eye sees movement in relation to the rest of the scene, not still frames. To think there is even a limit on what the eye can see is absurd, it's not a camera.
There have been numerous tests conducted that the human eye can see a difference in HZ(fps) up to a very large number of FPS, experiments that you could easily do your self with a couple LEDs and some simple electronics. Set one LED to run on/off at 30 HZ and set the other to an increasing number and tell me you don't see a difference.
The discrepancy people have with whether 30/60/120 fps is good enough or not is completely relative to the game. Play pacman and 30 fps will look almost no different from 60 or 120 because nothing in the game is moving fast enough to warrant a higher fps. Play an old sega sonic game, and tell me you'd rather play it at 30 and not 120, I dare you.
Depending on what settings you are using 60 fps is pretty good for a 680M. It's a nice card, but it's still just a mobile card and will not perform like it's desktop counter parts.
Don't listen to other players,you don't know if they are telling the whole truth or where they tested their fps.I tried several areas and got huge differences as expected.
I could get 40fps on my very weak machine at mid+ settings but other times drop well below 30 into the teens.Thing is it still ran pretty good for me.
I am not in game so i don't know how the settings work,i know in Beta the settings seemed dumb down,like they did very little.
Of course in any game,shadows/Shader settings are big draws on gpu.Also remeber this is not a GPU optimized game,meaning it is 100% using gpu,it is still using your cpu and if that is a weak link,it will make a difference.Also your memory can make a difference if using slower mem than say other users with same gpu.
people are reporting 326.80 drivers are the best,i have no idea on compatibility for all cards,you have to check that for yourself.
Never forget 3 mile Island and never trust a government official or company spokesman.
Im reluctant to consider a cpu bottleneck these days. I may try disabling hyper threading or setting the affinity to physical cores.