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Need advice on gaming PC?

NoLifeNerd20NoLifeNerd20 Member Posts: 15
I have been wanting to get back into online/mmo gaming for a while now and heard that building your own computer is cheaper i'm taking college courses on computer building right now and will be getting about $2000 refund next week and about another $2000 6 months or so later I am still relatively clueless on what components will give me that high end gaming computer So lets say $4000 is my max budget limit I am looking for a gaming pc that can run all games on max/ultra with relative ease if you guys could pick out the parts for me or give me links/advice it would be appreciated-----thanks

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  • VercinVercin Member UncommonPosts: 373

    Over 2000$ I think personally would just be a waste. 

    Are you planning on reusing any of your parts?

    This year I got myself an i5 3570k motherboard and 24 gig ram and 250 gig samsung ssd for like 700$

    Let's say you get a 400 dollar video card cause i  see no reason to buy a thousand dollar card.

     

    That 2000$ alone should get you a really awesome gaming system, anything more then that in my opinion would just be excess.

     

     

    The Stranger: It's what people know about themselves inside that makes 'em afraid.

  • NoLifeNerd20NoLifeNerd20 Member Posts: 15
    True. In a way I am trying to "Future proof" it. Or at least avoid having to upgrade it, within the next 5-7 years. If that is even possible?
  • RusqueRusque Member RarePosts: 2,785

    Future proof 5-7 years? Probably not.

    What actually future proofs you is the fact that everyone doesn't upgrade to max specs. So games always have to accommodate the average rig.

     

    $4000, yeah, that's really easy to build a crazy rig on that. I wouldn't spend that much, in fact, you could buy a ps4 and X1 and a $2000 PC and be really really ready for most things. Actually, if it was my money, I would go $1500 on a PC, x1, ps4, and money for a huge library of games.

  • VercinVercin Member UncommonPosts: 373
    Originally posted by NoLifeNerd20
    True. In a way I am trying to "Future proof" it. Or at least avoid having to upgrade it, within the next 5-7 years. If that is even possible?

    To a certain extent that will be true, but it will serve you well to check many of the hardware pages likes tomshardware and others.

    Most of the time the difference in a game between that 250$ processor and that 1000$ process is absolutely nothing.

    Some of the higher dollar processor can even be worse for gaming as they are geared more towards professional applications.

    Same with video cards and harddrives {of which I would only go with SSD at this point} there is going to be a point where performance gain and $$$ just do not go hand in hand.

    So, yah, you can buy high end hardware, no reason not to, but just no real reason to spend those extra $$ on fluff with no benefit.

     

     

     

    The Stranger: It's what people know about themselves inside that makes 'em afraid.

  • NoLifeNerd20NoLifeNerd20 Member Posts: 15
    I Knew of tomshardware but it will not load on my phone.are there any that are easily accessible with a mobile device? as I am limited to my phone for internet right now :-I
  • syntax42syntax42 Member UncommonPosts: 1,385

    If you can't use a computer at work to look up computer parts, go to a library or some place where public computers are offered.  I would be careful about entering credit card information or anything personal on a public computer, but you can at least look up the parts you want.

     

    If you have to, buy a cheap laptop or tablet for web browsing and convenience.

  • ShadanwolfShadanwolf Member UncommonPosts: 2,392

    OP

     

    What I do...is call Dell....talk to a desktop sales rep and tell them I want them to build a gaming computer.Write down the recommendation.....then call another Dell representative tell them the same thing, and see if they recommend the same thing and discuss the different recommendations, if they are different.Then buy the machine.Shouldn't cost you over $1200 and you get a 1 year parts warranty....and don't spend all your money.

    My machines last about 5 years and then it's time to do the same again.

  • syntax42syntax42 Member UncommonPosts: 1,385
    Originally posted by Shadanwolf

    OP

     

    What I do...is call Dell....talk to a desktop sales rep and tell them I want them to build a gaming computer.Write down the recommendation.....then call another Dell representative tell them the same thing, and see if they recommend the same thing and discuss the different recommendations, if they are different.Then buy the machine.Shouldn't cost you over $1200 and you get a 1 year parts warranty....and don't spend all your money.

    My machines last about 5 years and then it's time to do the same again.

    If that works for you, go for it.  

    Do take in consideration that salespeople are not usually very knowledgeable about the products they are selling.  They can tell you some of the technical specs of things, but they rarely know what it really takes to build a good gaming computer.  I wouldn't be surprised if they get you to buy something you don't need (like a CD drive) just so they make more on their commission.  Dell might be different, but I doubt it.

    When you have a company build a computer for you, also remember you are basically paying $200+ for someone to turn a screwdriver for you.  In larger companies like Dell, you also have to pay for that salesperson you talked to and for the executives to collect their fat salaries.  I would like to see the specs on the computer you get next time and compare them to an equivalent system I could put together.

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,531
    Originally posted by Shadanwolf

    OP

     

    What I do...is call Dell....talk to a desktop sales rep and tell them I want them to build a gaming computer.Write down the recommendation.....then call another Dell representative tell them the same thing, and see if they recommend the same thing and discuss the different recommendations, if they are different.Then buy the machine.Shouldn't cost you over $1200 and you get a 1 year parts warranty....and don't spend all your money.

    My machines last about 5 years and then it's time to do the same again.

    A Dell salesman will probably advise you to buy something that Dell sells.  What you should actually buy likely won't be something that Dell even offers.

    -----

    How much are you actually looking to spend?  Are you willing to spend an extra $400 to get an extra two CPU cores, which doesn't matter much today and may or may not matter several years from now?  Are you willing to buy a $1000 GeForce GTX Titan card that is only maybe 50% faster than a $400 GeForce GTX 770 and will probably be substantially slower than a $400 card that you can buy two years from today?

  • StrongladyStronglady Member UncommonPosts: 29

    For about $2000 (just the tower and components) you can get a very PC for gaming. if I were you I would really spend bit of time of thinking of what you're going to play on the PC. Do you have a certain game you'll play all the time or are you just wanting to play the newest games at almost maximum settings at 1920X1080p or 2560X1600p? These are very important things you need to think  about. Yes you can buy good "gaming" PC for 2-4K but it's nothing really.

     

    Like for me -- I had a budge around $2-3K it suits my needs perfectly especially how I don't really play much new video games.

     

    CPU: Intel i5 3570k @4.5Ghz 1.175v (idle@30c/load@55-60) $220

    Mobo: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H $145

    RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (4x4) 1866Mhz $199

    CPU: Cooler: H100i w/ Noctua NF-F12's in pull $160

    SSD: Crucial M4 128GB SSD x2 Raid 0 $200

    HDD: Seagate Barracuda 3TB $70

    GPU: eVGA GTX 680 4GB  sLI (stock)  $800

    Sound Card: Asus Xonar DSX 7.1

    PSU: Corsair HX1050 $160

    Monitor: Asus PB278Q $649

    Speakers: Corsair SP2500 $220

    Keyboard: Corsair K90 $130

    Mouse: Mionix Naos 3200 $60

     

     

    Honestly I build this computer almost a year ago when the prices were a little bit higher and bought in Canada. So you can make this a lot cheaper and faster(if you live the US). I pretty much can play almost any game at max settings with  AA turned up with very very good fps with a resolution of 2560x1440p. This was a whole new PC setup. But I mean yeah if you're going to do something like this might as well spend a little money. Since you'll be using quite a bit.

  • GdemamiGdemami Member EpicPosts: 12,342


    Originally posted by Stronglady

    SSD: Crucial M4 128GB SSD x2 Raid 0 $200

    Oh dear....lol

  • RaunuRaunu Member UncommonPosts: 480
    Originally posted by Stronglady

    For about $2000 (just the tower and components) you can get a very PC for gaming. if I were you I would really spend bit of time of thinking of what you're going to play on the PC. Do you have a certain game you'll play all the time or are you just wanting to play the newest games at almost maximum settings at 1920X1080p or 2560X1600p? These are very important things you need to think  about. Yes you can buy good "gaming" PC for 2-4K but it's nothing really.

     

    Like for me -- I had a budge around $2-3K it suits my needs perfectly especially how I don't really play much new video games.

     

    CPU: Intel i5 3570k @4.5Ghz 1.175v (idle@30c/load@55-60) $220

    • While the i5s are better than the i7s for gaming. I don't think the OP should spent the extra money on k processor. the the k on the 3570k means that it is unlocked for overclocking. Our OP doesn't seem to be an enthusiast, so he shouldn't try to overclock the cpu. I would recommend saving a little bit of money and go with the regular i5 3570

    Mobo: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-UD3H $145

    • I can't really say anything bad about this motherboard.  It's a pretty good product for the money.

    RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (4x4) 1866Mhz $199

    • I wouldn't bother with any ram rated over 1600Mhz. While a computer program may be able to measure the difference, a human won't notice any difference.
    • G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 1600Mhz - $135

    CPU: Cooler: H100i w/ Noctua NF-F12's in pull $160

    • As I stated above, the OP shouldn't really be overclocking if he doesn't know exactly what he's doing. The stock cooler will be fine. Remove the $160s for cooling completely.

    SSD: Crucial M4 128GB SSD x2 Raid 0 $200

    • There's no way I'd accept anything other than a Samsung 840 Pro for an SSD. This HD will give satisfy all your speed needs and give you a little extra room for your games that you play the most.
    • SAMSUNG 840 Pro Series 256G - $240

    HDD: Seagate Barracuda 3TB $70

    GPU: eVGA GTX 680 4GB  sLI (stock)  $800

    • This is probably the best way to get great graphics performance that will last you for a few years to come without spending $1000+ on graphics crads

    Sound Card: Asus Xonar DSX 7.1

    • I wouldn't bother with a sound card really. It used to be that you needed a sound card to get any kind of decent audio from your computer. However, onboard audio has come a long way and unless the OP is an audiophile, I'd leave the sound card out of it.

    PSU: Corsair HX1050 $160

    Monitor: Asus PB278Q $649

    • Fantastic monitor. Some people may complain at the response time is 5ms(I personally have a 2ms response time monitor) but to be honest, when you're talking about a difference of 3ms, it's unnoticeable.

    Speakers: Corsair SP2500 $220

    Keyboard: Corsair K90 $130

    Mouse: Mionix Naos 3200 $60

     

     

    Honestly I build this computer almost a year ago when the prices were a little bit higher and bought in Canada. So you can make this a lot cheaper and faster(if you live the US). I pretty much can play almost any game at max settings with  AA turned up with very very good fps with a resolution of 2560x1440p. This was a whole new PC setup. But I mean yeah if you're going to do something like this might as well spend a little money. Since you'll be using quite a bit.

     

    Save a little bit of cash. Just because you have it, doesn't mean you should spend it all on a computer.

    - - "What if the hokey pokey really is what it's all about?" - -

  • BeadmanBeadman Member UncommonPosts: 156
    Often it is better to buy does-it-all-but-cheaper parts instead of the most expensive ones. You just buy a new part in a couple of years when you need it and the price will still probably be cheaper. Sure, throwing thousands of dollars will future proof you, to some extent, but you can accomplish the same thing by replacing parts. There are many online communities that can help suggest builds. I encourage you to get advice from them.
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