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If the developers have proven themselves to be incapable of creating a decent game in 5 years, what leads you to believe they will miraculously add loads of content by April?

The game has yellow chat bubble that includes white text: This is an obvious sign of how out of touch this game is with basic human necessities. White and yellow blend in together and by all means should be avoided when trying to get a message across to readers. If I've been staring at my computer screen for multiple hours, the last thing i want to do is struggle to decipher messages from NPCs.. Its bad enough nearly 1/3rd of the words are mis spelled but I have to read white letters with a yellow background...

Spells: They have a winning line up of spells, that include names such as Disease Inside, Frost Inside.. Very creative!!! Not to mention you receive your spells by allocating points into various sub sections.. They avoided scrolls, trainers or any creative method and just have you pump points into sections to unlock a spell... Ok so the kindergarten names, uncreative method of achieving spells may have been overruled... if the spells atleast looked decent... well they lack in that department also.. The majority of the graphics are either identical or appear to be very similar..

Combat: Imagine a robot chopping a piece of wood with an axe over and over because its the only comparison I can present to you for combat... Slow paced, boring animation.... Not to mention the fighters special abilities DO not even have an animation... Damage just suddenly appears out of no where...

Learning Curve: The game currently does not offer a tutorial or little to no quest to help get you started.. No lore as to why you are in the world or what your goals are...

Graphics: The only decent aspect of the game.. The world looks amazing (although it may controversial, many people claim they stole the technology) and the weather affects are A+! The character creation and graphics however are very lackluster... All elves look identical but are colored differently(High elves white, Dark elves blackish, Wood elves green)... All other races are a disappointment also...

Crafting: Not in the game...

Overall judgement: They will need a miracle to have a stable game by April... Im not going to speculate about anything other then Farlans ability to be able to keep servers up for longer then 1 hour.. Sure the game is loaded with bugs, horrible animations and bad graphics, little to no mobs, no NPCs but that dose'nt mean anything when they need to dedicate the 5 developers to working on character corruption and client stability issues.... Although Farlan finally told the truth "THIS GAME IS NOT A BETA" they also failed to mention that is indeed "ALPHA"...

Comments

  • Windchaser27Windchaser27 Member Posts: 6

    Your first complaint is that there is yellow and white chat text?  I had no trouble reading the text.

    The spell effects and animations aren't outstanding, but they are good enough for me.  This is an RPG after all.  It's not based on who has the best graphics and they aren't to bad IMO.

    I like the fact there was no tutorial.  Most MMOs these days force feed you like youa re a fool who can't learn things yourself.  If you take a little time you can figure things out on your own.  Personally I don't mind the WoW aproach of force feeding you easy quests, but  I don't need them either.  It's a nice change to just go out and look for ways to get exp.  I haven't figured out the quest system yet, but I saw that a few people were able to do so.  It just takes some times and effort.

  • blunder1983blunder1983 Member Posts: 52


    Originally posted by birdseeds

    If the developers have proven themselves to be incapable of creating a decent game in 5 years, what leads you to believe they will miraculously add loads of content by April?
    The game has yellow chat bubble that includes white text: This is an obvious sign of how out of touch this game is with basic human necessities. White and yellow blend in together and by all means should be avoided when trying to get a message across to readers. If I've been staring at my computer screen for multiple hours, the last thing i want to do is struggle to decipher messages from NPCs.. Its bad enough nearly 1/3rd of the words are mis spelled but I have to read white letters with a yellow background...
    Spells: They have a winning line up of spells, that include names such as Disease Inside, Frost Inside.. Very creative!!! Not to mention you receive your spells by allocating points into various sub sections.. They avoided scrolls, trainers or any creative method and just have you pump points into sections to unlock a spell... Ok so the kindergarten names, uncreative method of achieving spells may have been overruled... if the spells atleast looked decent... well they lack in that department also.. The majority of the graphics are either identical or appear to be very similar..
    Combat: Imagine a robot chopping a piece of wood with an axe over and over because its the only comparison I can present to you for combat... Slow paced, boring animation.... Not to mention the fighters special abilities DO not even have an animation... Damage just suddenly appears out of no where...
    Learning Curve: The game currently does not offer a tutorial or little to no quest to help get you started.. No lore as to why you are in the world or what your goals are...
    Graphics: The only decent aspect of the game.. The world looks amazing (although it may controversial, many people claim they stole the technology) and the weather affects are A+! The character creation and graphics however are very lackluster... All elves look identical but are colored differently(High elves white, Dark elves blackish, Wood elves green)... All other races are a disappointment also...
    Crafting: Not in the game...
    Overall judgement: They will need a miracle to have a stable game by April... Im not going to speculate about anything other then Farlans ability to be able to keep servers up for longer then 1 hour.. Sure the game is loaded with bugs, horrible animations and bad graphics, little to no mobs, no NPCs but that dose'nt mean anything when they need to dedicate the 5 developers to working on character corruption and client stability issues.... Although Farlan finally told the truth "THIS GAME IS NOT A BETA" they also failed to mention that is indeed "ALPHA"...

    First up, chat bubbles. How hard is it to change yellow to white and white to black. This might take them 10mins to recode. I never noticed it as a problem had no problems chatting away.

    Spells names! Are crap. Again, how hard is it to rename spells? Not at all difficult. If it was a choice between playing now or waiting for correct names I choose play now. Also this means that the players might get to name the skills or even better have the skills in DnL named after them. As a bard I'd love to have my Pioneer do something special and then have a skill named "Blunder's Lament" or something.

    Combat. Its not great, and the first thing you mention which will require serious coding. Then again its not too bad and its not something impossible to fix

    Learning curve. Well this is something I guess is personal taste. I like the fact that the game requires a bit of cerebral thought and exploring I'm sure many people of the WOW era will hate the lack of hand holding though.

    Gfx. Imo these arent too hot. That said they are functional.

    Crafting. Its COMING into the game, and you KNEW it wasn't in at the start.

    Overall judgement: The game is an open beta and its crude. That said it is fun and I enjoy it. My advice is either to play a bit longer, or give your key to one of the many people who WANT to play.

  • nthnaounnthnaoun Member Posts: 1,438



    Originally posted by birdseeds

    If the developers have proven themselves to be incapable of creating a decent game in 5 years, what leads you to believe they will miraculously add loads of content by April?
    The game has yellow chat bubble that includes white text: This is an obvious sign of how out of touch this game is with basic human necessities. White and yellow blend in together and by all means should be avoided when trying to get a message across to readers. If I've been staring at my computer screen for multiple hours, the last thing i want to do is struggle to decipher messages from NPCs.. Its bad enough nearly 1/3rd of the words are mis spelled but I have to read white letters with a yellow background...
    Spells: They have a winning line up of spells, that include names such as Disease Inside, Frost Inside.. Very creative!!! Not to mention you receive your spells by allocating points into various sub sections.. They avoided scrolls, trainers or any creative method and just have you pump points into sections to unlock a spell... Ok so the kindergarten names, uncreative method of achieving spells may have been overruled... if the spells atleast looked decent... well they lack in that department also.. The majority of the graphics are either identical or appear to be very similar..
    Combat: Imagine a robot chopping a piece of wood with an axe over and over because its the only comparison I can present to you for combat... Slow paced, boring animation.... Not to mention the fighters special abilities DO not even have an animation... Damage just suddenly appears out of no where...
    Learning Curve: The game currently does not offer a tutorial or little to no quest to help get you started.. No lore as to why you are in the world or what your goals are...
    Graphics: The only decent aspect of the game.. The world looks amazing (although it may controversial, many people claim they stole the technology) and the weather affects are A+! The character creation and graphics however are very lackluster... All elves look identical but are colored differently(High elves white, Dark elves blackish, Wood elves green)... All other races are a disappointment also...
    Crafting: Not in the game...
    Overall judgement: They will need a miracle to have a stable game by April... Im not going to speculate about anything other then Farlans ability to be able to keep servers up for longer then 1 hour.. Sure the game is loaded with bugs, horrible animations and bad graphics, little to no mobs, no NPCs but that dose'nt mean anything when they need to dedicate the 5 developers to working on character corruption and client stability issues.... Although Farlan finally told the truth "THIS GAME IS NOT A BETA" they also failed to mention that is indeed "ALPHA"...



    SOG is not Dark and Light. Your commenting on a different FREE game. You should wait to complain about DnL until you actually play DnL. Enough said.

    P.S.- I am not a supporter of DnL, since I heard they are using a company that is known for bad practices to handle our money. No thank you I'll pass. No matter how good the game looks, it's not worth the account troubles that could happen.

    I just read the above post and thought I should remind everyone that this is SOG and not DnL, so lets name them as such and post accurately.

  • RoinRoin Member RarePosts: 3,444

    And just how much SOG playing are you doing right now, blunder1983? Riiight.

    In War - Victory.
    In Peace - Vigilance.
    In Death - Sacrifice.

  • GaligarGaligar Member Posts: 4


     
    Overall judgement: The game is an open beta and its crude. That said it is fun and I enjoy it. My advice is either to play a bit longer, or give your key to one of the many people who WANT to play.




     

    My thots exactly.

  • Windchaser27Windchaser27 Member Posts: 6
    Patience is a virtue few have these days.
  • FratmanFratman Member Posts: 344



    Originally posted by Windchaser27
    Patience is a virtue few have these days.



    Actually,  the DnL community has been infinitely patient and understanding. That's probably why the devs felt they could toss this sorry excuse for a game out to us.

    SoG is a piece of crap. It's obvious to anyone who has played a MMORPG before and anyone who isn't blinded by fanboi false hope.

    image

  • Windchaser27Windchaser27 Member Posts: 6



    Originally posted by Fratman



    Originally posted by Windchaser27
    Patience is a virtue few have these days.


    Actually,  the DnL community has been infinitely patient and understanding. That's probably why the devs felt they could toss this sorry excuse for a game out to us.

    SoG is a piece of crap. It's obvious to anyone who has played a MMORPG before and anyone who isn't blinded by fanboi false hope.

    image


    I forgot to post that people seem to be exceptionally skilled in mindless flaming these days.  No offense.  It's amazing how the boards fill up with comments that really don't make any sense. 

    Oh yeah forgot to add I've played UO, EQ, EQ2, SWG, AC2, FFXI, WoW and I don't think it's a piece of crap.

  • porcelinaporcelina Member Posts: 5


    Originally posted by Fratman

    Actually, the DnL community has been infinitely patient and understanding.


    obviously not. while we're on the subject of things that should be obvious to an mmo vet, let's include the rocky start of every single game ever made and every expansion afterwards. sorry, they've all been rough and i'm talking full blown in-the-stores launch. this is nothing. if you don't like it, go play a game that's been out for a year or more... but watch out for the next patch or expansion because you'll be back in it again.

  • NewbertNewbert Member Posts: 33

     
  • elthznd901elthznd901 Member UncommonPosts: 44



    Originally posted by nthnaoun



    Originally posted by birdseeds

    If the developers have proven themselves to be incapable of creating a decent game in 5 years, what leads you to believe they will miraculously add loads of content by April?
    The game has yellow chat bubble that includes white text: This is an obvious sign of how out of touch this game is with basic human necessities. White and yellow blend in together and by all means should be avoided when trying to get a message across to readers. If I've been staring at my computer screen for multiple hours, the last thing i want to do is struggle to decipher messages from NPCs.. Its bad enough nearly 1/3rd of the words are mis spelled but I have to read white letters with a yellow background...
    Spells: They have a winning line up of spells, that include names such as Disease Inside, Frost Inside.. Very creative!!! Not to mention you receive your spells by allocating points into various sub sections.. They avoided scrolls, trainers or any creative method and just have you pump points into sections to unlock a spell... Ok so the kindergarten names, uncreative method of achieving spells may have been overruled... if the spells atleast looked decent... well they lack in that department also.. The majority of the graphics are either identical or appear to be very similar..
    Combat: Imagine a robot chopping a piece of wood with an axe over and over because its the only comparison I can present to you for combat... Slow paced, boring animation.... Not to mention the fighters special abilities DO not even have an animation... Damage just suddenly appears out of no where...
    Learning Curve: The game currently does not offer a tutorial or little to no quest to help get you started.. No lore as to why you are in the world or what your goals are...
    Graphics: The only decent aspect of the game.. The world looks amazing (although it may controversial, many people claim they stole the technology) and the weather affects are A+! The character creation and graphics however are very lackluster... All elves look identical but are colored differently(High elves white, Dark elves blackish, Wood elves green)... All other races are a disappointment also...
    Crafting: Not in the game...
    Overall judgement: They will need a miracle to have a stable game by April... Im not going to speculate about anything other then Farlans ability to be able to keep servers up for longer then 1 hour.. Sure the game is loaded with bugs, horrible animations and bad graphics, little to no mobs, no NPCs but that dose'nt mean anything when they need to dedicate the 5 developers to working on character corruption and client stability issues.... Although Farlan finally told the truth "THIS GAME IS NOT A BETA" they also failed to mention that is indeed "ALPHA"...


    SOG is not Dark and Light. Your commenting on a different FREE game. You should wait to complain about DnL until you actually play DnL. Enough said.

    P.S.- I am not a supporter of DnL, since I heard they are using a company that is known for bad practices to handle our money. No thank you I'll pass. No matter how good the game looks, it's not worth the account troubles that could happen.

    I just read the above post and thought I should remind everyone that this is SOG and not DnL, so lets name them as such and post accurately.


    You know I really hope DnL turns out great.  But if you really believe SoG is not a beta/stress test of core DnL features you are only fooling yourself. 

    I am still looking foward to actually logging in.  Im expecting a beta, so most of the problems wont bother me.  If the problems are still there just before release, expect MOST of them in release.  I have been in enough betas over the years to know that is almost always the case.  Thats based on experience, not theory.


  • pizzadudepizzadude Member Posts: 48



    Originally posted by birdseeds

    If the developers have proven themselves to be incapable of creating a decent game in 5 years, what leads you to believe they will miraculously add loads of content by April?
    The game has yellow chat bubble that includes white text: This is an obvious sign of how out of touch this game is with basic human necessities. White and yellow blend in together and by all means should be avoided when trying to get a message across to readers. If I've been staring at my computer screen for multiple hours, the last thing i want to do is struggle to decipher messages from NPCs.. Its bad enough nearly 1/3rd of the words are mis spelled but I have to read white letters with a yellow background...
    Spells: They have a winning line up of spells, that include names such as Disease Inside, Frost Inside.. Very creative!!! Not to mention you receive your spells by allocating points into various sub sections.. They avoided scrolls, trainers or any creative method and just have you pump points into sections to unlock a spell... Ok so the kindergarten names, uncreative method of achieving spells may have been overruled... if the spells atleast looked decent... well they lack in that department also.. The majority of the graphics are either identical or appear to be very similar..
    Combat: Imagine a robot chopping a piece of wood with an axe over and over because its the only comparison I can present to you for combat... Slow paced, boring animation.... Not to mention the fighters special abilities DO not even have an animation... Damage just suddenly appears out of no where...
    Learning Curve: The game currently does not offer a tutorial or little to no quest to help get you started.. No lore as to why you are in the world or what your goals are...
    Graphics: The only decent aspect of the game.. The world looks amazing (although it may controversial, many people claim they stole the technology) and the weather affects are A+! The character creation and graphics however are very lackluster... All elves look identical but are colored differently(High elves white, Dark elves blackish, Wood elves green)... All other races are a disappointment also...
    Crafting: Not in the game...
    Overall judgement: They will need a miracle to have a stable game by April... Im not going to speculate about anything other then Farlans ability to be able to keep servers up for longer then 1 hour.. Sure the game is loaded with bugs, horrible animations and bad graphics, little to no mobs, no NPCs but that dose'nt mean anything when they need to dedicate the 5 developers to working on character corruption and client stability issues.... Although Farlan finally told the truth "THIS GAME IS NOT A BETA" they also failed to mention that is indeed "ALPHA"...



    I dont care how the text is white with yellow back ground, just as long as there not much miss spelt words, and duh they testing the sever over load BIG deal.

    so what if the have spells like disease inside and frost inside just make it easyer to understand. Your just hate mad because you didnt get into the game and when YOU DO your gonna be Lowie and get pked.image

    NUMBER OF NOOBIES PWN 27
    NUMBER OF lowies PKED 82
    AND growing
    and i anit lying, i uber

  • tsr56tsr56 Member Posts: 98

    "SOG is not Dark and Light."

    and you're smart.

    "I dont care how the text is white with yellow back ground, just as long as there not much miss spelt words, and duh they testing the sever over load BIG deal.so what if the have spells like disease inside and frost inside just make it easyer to understand. Your just hate mad because you didnt get into the game and when YOU DO your gonna be Lowie and get pked"

    So which idiot number err I mean "pioneer key #" were you?  ;]

  • GarbageManGarbageMan Member Posts: 46

    imageThe game isn't all that great,WHy?

    Hmm first 30mins in game was confusing theres no Train master or starting Masters ( some tutorial would be nice). The merchant have stupid names like TOM, Bill, and the mobs lol LADY AND wolf ect. there mobs that don't belong in areas you find them. LIKE why do the have Sandmans in grass and water mobs outside in land far away from the water?

    Not to sound picky but THE GAME MAKES NO SENSE. You feel lost and clueless!!! don't get me started on combat lol what a joke its not group friendly and its better off if you just solo. One thing that pissed me off was killing something lower lvl then me is the same if i where to kill something higher SAME exp and not much difference in the loot. And there no raiding or places you can go in to exp like in EQ2 and MOST other MMORPG. Your just wasting most of you time exploring for what? Better exp spots LOL usually the more far away you travel from the NOOB city the harder and higher lvl mobs get sadly you can find lvl 1 mobs everywhere and high mobs around the city GOOD THING THEY DONT AGGRO. Lol takes the fun and skill( strategy) out of the game

    YOu cant tell the difference in the quality of you  armor   as You CANT inspect other and there no difference in the stat that armor has. Other thing is Lower lvl have the same Spell effects has higher lvl players that blows

    Not worth 60 bucks for beta quality game.image there i said it hehe

     

    WISH I COULD GET A REFUND

    NAR NAR Sweetner

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