I agree the game decision makers need a spine transplant.Seem the one they started with melted about 6 months ago.I was so excited by the early descriptions and direction of the game and with each succeeding month,more I see more and more decisions that take the game in a different direction form it's initial course.Frankly I just get to upset to hear the latest news and find more decisions I don't agree with.I've become rather stoic about the game and will just wait to see what the game turns out to be.I certainly won't consider buying it with out an extensive open beta period.
You say your son is in his early teens and he eats up every tidbit bout ESO that surfaces. I would say ESO is a safe bet based on these factors:
1) Your sons age and he can approach the game casually as this is the healthiest approach for a boy his age, considering school, extracurricular activities, friends, exercise, sleep, eating, etc...taking good care of oneself as a healthy gamer should (I speak from a vast amount of experience on this subject); Believe me living a balanced life while one games is best in the long run.
2) If your son has played Skyrim and the DLC expansions that go along with it and possibly early Elder Scrolls games this is a definite plus as Elder Scrolls Online is the name.
3) Subscription is a big plus as F2P would have doomed this game right from the start and if they can make paid DLC for Skyrim why does it not make sense for them to release content in a timely manner for subscribers? All this nonsensical talk about cash shop is talk and nothing more should be said about this nonsense.
4) Consider FFXIV just released and look at how many issues they are currently having. This actually affects pretty much any MMO that releases as even the most hearty beta tests don't resolve issues that arise once the game goes live. This is the nature of MMOs and will continue to be until computers can resolve issues in real time without affecting gameplay for users in real time.
5) Isn't it funny how many critics, skeptics, naysayers and all around judgemental blockheads come out of the woodwork when you ask for opinions or rather gut feelings, yet truly these are opinions moreso and nonetheless What Is so funny about it is how they are here incessantly and continually, offering their opinions especially considering it isn't conducive or necessarily warranted. Such is the nature of gaming forums as it is part of the purpose they serve.
6) This is going to be more of an introductory MMO for Bethesda/Zenimax and for enthusiasts to enjoy in the vast world of Tamriel. So far it seems like alot of aspects of the single player series as well as multiplayer and massively multiplayer aspects are going to be viable for players.
7) ESO is bringing more realistic graphics and real time combat to the world of MMOs as this is of great benefit to this genre. Any class can wear any armor, use any weapon, and do any type of crafting as overly defined roles aren't a part of ESO which is a good thing.
My son is in his teens as well and though he thoroughly enjoyed Oblivion and Skyrim he has his focus elsewhere these days and in no way am I going to interfere with this or his development other then in as being supportive and positive as I can be. Depending on when ESO is released for certain platforms (namely next generation consoles) will determine when and if I am going to participate. We live in precarious times as many of us are being overloaded and overwhelmed with all sorts of stimuli, though primarily technologically. Any MMO that is being released (even ESO) should notably deviate from mistakes of past MMOs; overly defined roles, boring quests, dailys, anything that caters to the grind/timesink, etc...and serve a more productive role for the many who participate in such activity in our society.
I think it's going to be better than expected if I'm being honest. Maybe it's because I'm not that hyped about it, but they only have to do a few things to provide a good ES experience.
Let players explore - I know a portion of the world will be blocked off until you cap, but the "questing" system sounds very TES so far to me. Happen upon a point of interest, rummage around, find a note that tells you about something in a certain locale, up to you to go do it or not. Let's not forget, all the TES games have had various questing methods.
They've all had the linear story quests, they've all had the multi-chain side quests, and they've all had the "oh this sounds interesting, I'm gonna go check this out" stumble upon quests. So far, I've seen nothing that says these three quest models won't be in the game. If you don't believe me, go load up any TES game and count fedex, talk to this guy, and kill 10 rat quests you are given. Their are plenty of them. People just overlook them because while they're doing them, they get sidetracked in the world.
Character customization - Again, it doesn't sound like they're deviating from the TES model of pick your traits and mix'n'match. Now, the only downside is that this will be in MMO form, which means players WILL look for optimal builds and then indirectly force people to follow those by only inviting players to groups if they are within those parameters. It always happens, but that's not because of developers, that's because of human nature. Even if something is 1% better, it will be considered the only "viable" build. Yes, it's dumb, do your best to avoid these types of people.
That's it. That's all they have to do to give us a TES experience. If they do manage to screw it up, then it'll be a shame. But TES games are pretty simple. Aim and click combat, few abilities available at any given time, lots and lots of bugs, a storyline, and a huge open world to play in with mix'n'match character building.
If anything, it has one of the more simple RPG formulas.
I say don't sweat it, I think we'll be pleasantly surprised this time around.
Im buying the game for the next installment of TES.
If I play it a month, beat it, and then find nothing else appealing...it will have been money well spent.
I cant see them putting in a crappy story, and totally wrecking the TES feel.
Im willing to give a few sacrifices to my TES game for the sake of potentially being a decent mmorpg. Haven't known these developers to make crap (though I am worried they are known for buggy games).
I think most here will end up hating it because it doesn't provide 5 years of uninterrupted 10 hour + a day content and consider it the biggest failure of the last 50 thousand years. I cant imagine anyone even pays attention to these people anyway so who cares.
My point is I think a HUGE portion of the people who will buy this game have been, and are 100% ok, with buying a TES game and spending no more than 50 hours playing it before moving on. Yes they will come back for DLC.
Single player gamers are not nearly as retarded with games as hardcore mmorpg vets.
Sure, it could be the best thing for MMORPG players since spilt milk made a lifestyle for kittens. However, my gut is queasy about it leaving me to think that its likely just another overpriced three month wonder full of the same old crap we are all used to and worn out on that will get middling fan reviews in general and glowing praise on the pro circuit that we will all wish we hadn’t paid any heed to later. This instinctively leads me to avoid a launch day purchase and wait for the inevitable business model change and price reduction before even considering picking up the game to play so I don’t end up nerd raging in a forum thread like most people will.
Thoughts from an Elder Scrolls single player games fan:
I believe that the MMO crowd considering this game will be put off by the race/faction lock. (based on race, you can only play in your own territory's zones until you get to maximum level.)
I believe that the Elder Scrolls crowd will be put off by the fact that this is not going to be Skyrim Online.
I believe that the developers are going to have a hard time trying to balance between the two.
Very eloquently put. I feel the way you mentioned here. As an MMO player, I'm extremely put off by the faction lock and its implications. That really is the major game breaking feature for me. The focus on the PVP is a major detraction for me, I felt a more exploration heavy model would have been appropriate. As an Elder Scrolls player and fan, I had hoped for something more akin to borderlands 2. Team up with a few friends, explore Tamriel. A lobby based game would have been much more preferred to the model they're attempting - shoving Elder Scrolls into a DAOC sized hole. I wanted to have raids in the realms of Oblivion. I wanted to have faction quests for the factions we've experienced in each game so far. I wanted player housing. None of that is in the game. As an MMO gamer and an Elder Scrolls, I'm in both audiences and from both perspectives this game fails. I suppose I will see how I like it tomorrow.
I find it distasteful they have the nerve, or foolishness, to ask for a subscription. I'm not sure why they thought that'd be a good idea, especially considering they're also launching on consoles - where a subscription has never succeeded. They've been met with either apathy, skepticism, or downright dismissal. They should have had at least the sense to remove the subscription barrier so people would just go out and pick up their game. The average console gamer won't. It seems to me that audience considers that expensive - even though it's not in comparison to the investment level required to enjoy most free to play titles. They're only launching with two of the major guilds. So far no word on any of the factions we've seen in the previous titles. What's worse is they think they can ignore that and still retain Elder Scrolls fans. I won't play another hollow game like Guild Wars 2. I think out of the all the titles on the horizon, Wildstar looks the most promising.
I do not think it will be as bat as SWTOR however I do think it will be right up there with GW2. At first glance my thoughts are that this is yet another DAOC console esque Themepark hybrid. Another linear pve adventure island with structured PVP adventure games and lackluster pve difficulty. It will not do any one thing very well but it will make everything it does do insanely easy. Unless the combat system is amazing and the pvp battlezone is a masterpiece of coding more than likely it will end up being a center of the map zergfest which will get boring after about 3 days. Then when you do get bored, because even good battlegrounds get boring, what is there to do. Easy pve adventures followed by your average crafting system. Then the world itself is zero risk.
Strictly speaking as somebody who was one of the haters who jumped all over Zenimax when they first came out and said things like "WoW-like interface and controls" "This is not an MMO" etc. all I can say is that I was wrong.
So.....very......wrong
Having seen this game up close and personal I can say that if you or your son liked Skyrim then you will love this game.
I can't and won't get into any details but this is not WoW in Tamriel, this truly is Elder Scrolls Online.
Tonight will be the first stress test where they have done a mass invite. My medium sized guild of 50-ish members has about 8 people invited to tonight's event so I would suggest that by tomorrow morning there will be videos and leaks pretty much all over the internet.
Hell there is already several hours of gameplay available via torrent if you're really that curious about what this game looks and plays like.
The above is my personal opinion. Anyone displaying a view contrary to my opinion is obviously WRONG and should STHU. (neener neener)
As a seasoned vet my gut feeling tells me that ESO won't cure cancer, it won't create world peace and it won't be perfect. It will be a 2014 MMO with many features in common with games that are trying to improve on the genre and many features similar to those parts of previous MMOs that are worth keeping. It will be set in a familiar universe that we have gotten to know through TES games.
It will be entertainment, not an alternate life. I think I'll play.
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I was looking forward to it. I also stuck up for this game a lot in the past. However, I honestly don't think it's going to be worth the sub fee. The only thing that really interested me in this game was the fact that it was Elder Scrolls. Besides that, there isn't really anything new or interesting in this game compared to others. Anyone who wants to make a bet with me, I will accept. I am so sure this game will end up F2P by the end of 2014, I would bet my life on it lol.
Anyone who really thinks other wise, is just kidding themselves. I am not saying the game is going to be bad, on the contrary, I think it will be fun. I just don't think it will be enough to keep it going with a sub for that long.
ESO will follow in SWToR shoes. It will sell a lot of boxes. People will think its one thing but will find out its something else and start to fade pretty quick. 4-6 months in the downward slide in sub numbers will be the writing on the wall and it will go ftp or btp. The cash shop they end up with will be a money grab with people saying its made the game pay to win.
You can't be all things to all people. Is ESO Skyrim online? Is it the grandchild of DAoC? Is it pvp focused or pve? Is it open world or a themepark? The Devs are like politicians. They tell whatever group they are speaking to what they want to hear, but that doesn't explain what the game is. Less hype and more reality would be nice.
As a seasoned vet, I can tell you it's Skryim with people and a chat box. It's really that simple. Same graphics. Same UI. Same combat gameplay. Now, is that a bad thing? No, not really. I adore the ES series, but one of the negatives of all the games has been the fluidity of combat. This game has made no strides to fixing or updating that. The quests are voiced and have a very similar UI as in Skyrim. There were tons of things to find also. Every vase, chest, cabinet, urn, etc you can open. There are books and ingredients to find also. I was picking butterfly wings today and harvesting bears. Also, the game world looks pretty big. Lots of maps and the terrain is very explorer friendly, in that you want to see what's over that next hill.
The real question for me is, how will end game be, will the melee combat feel the same at release (I hope not) and will the game world feel empty as a result of the segregation of 2/3rds of the population. With that said I can def see myself leveling to max level just to play another ES rpg. What happens after that, who knows.
My gut tells me seasoned TES vets will expect a Skyrim Online type game and will probably be sorely disappointed, but there's really only one way to know if you'll like a game or not.
First off i'm buying the game so lets not take this as a troll, this is costing me mucho dollars.
I'll try and nutshell this.
My one son (early teen), lives, eats, breathes ESO, i send him every single thing i come across and he yaks my head off about it all the time. On my vacation i let him go without stopping him and he talked for 3 hours, THREE HOURS, thought my head was going to blow. Heck, i'm not even think negative about ESO around him, lol.
Bottom line i just want to buy him the game at launch, he wants the collector and all. He still firmly believes he is going to get a beta invite, and man i really wish he would too as he might realize it ain't all that and save me some moola, but this is why he prolly isn't getting an invite, they don't want the general pop to know something about the game. My feeling again. Heck you know his email and mine are prolly in the top 10 i was there to sign him up the moment it went live, ffs. Later he got discouraged waiting for months and has went on to use his brothers, sisters, mom's, grand parents email and not a word from ESO. Yet he still is waiting checks his email every day and checks in with everyone else.
So what I'm hoping that instead of buying 5 copies for the fam, pay a couple months only to find it goes F2P i'm looking for seasoned gamers such as myself to give me their 2 cents on this games direction.
My two cents is that the boys over ESO are in way over their heads, they continually say one thing then completely back peddle and do another, go straight into damage control, so fear full of creating any more bad press it's well, spineless.
I get a total feeling they are winging it as they go along but are prepared for all scenarios, such as monthly sub, F2P cash shop, box, sub, cs. I dunno they announce it and the initial community feedback was pretty bad. Since then they seem to say, or do whatever cause s the least amount of backlash. There is Cash Shop, now there isn't one, or isn't one until it gores F2P. Looked like it was going to be F2P until the overwhelming posiotiove feedback to FFXIV:ARR and Wild Star having subs, boys at ESO hands go shooting into the air OOOOOOHHHHH! OOOOOOHHHHH! OOOOOOHHHHH! WE ARE GOING TO HAVE A SUB TOO!!!!
Then i watch the vids and listen to what they have to say and it just screams we are over 5 years late to the mmo party. You know we thought we'd make this pretty looking game and collect money off the ES name, but uuhhh we snoozed.
Overall, this whole thing is just screaming SWTOR 2. All hype and arse kissing.
I have listened to all the crap said about this game and decided to go to gamescom 2013 in Koln and try it out. I was blown away with how it played and ran so smooth and it looks and feels like Skyrim just it's an MMO. After chatting with the guys from ESO for two days they told me I'd love it and I told them I'm not queuing up to play no MMO and they dragged me into the game. I was very impressed and I think many people will be surprised with this game and I predict it will be a massive success even with the sub based. Thanks to it being a sub based game is the reason I will be buying and playing it at launch.
Don't judge a book by it's cover and also what out for the hyper meter as the two can confuse you, make sure you get your son to play in open beta that will happen according to the guys as they want as many to see and play the game they have nothing to hide imo. The trouble I now have is withdrawal symptoms from not being able to get back into to the game and it's been a hell of a long time since I felt like that about a game.
I've even been emailing the guys who allowed me to play it and I'm hoping they will fire me a beta invite though I'm not to bothered if they don't as it will be the first time I've played a game without beta testing so it will be amazing to be a total N00B
What comes through your comments are you want to be a supportive parent for your son. The fact you both enjoy online games is a bonus. Your lengthy experience with the online world is just that - your experience. Like most parents who want to do right by their kids, they will give them space (within parental limits) to explore, make mistakes, and learn.
Your instincts about the game may very well be founded. However, whether he enjoys ESO or not you'll be supporting him in this endeavour allowing him to develop his own sense of discernment as to what exactly makes a good game.
If he loves the game and plays it for the duration of its lifetime then that's awesome. If after X number of months the gillded lustre of the honeymoon period fades and the new game smell has all but dissipated you can be there for him as a fellow gamer to hash out why it 'wasn't all that'.
This is a great answer--do it for your son (though maybe just the two of you rather than the whole family). The game probably won't be all that, but then you can talk about the difference between promise and hope and reality and that lesson will be well worth the money spent. Besides, if he's so hyped for it, he will be loving it the first month anyway--and you may never get to enjoy something like that with your son again. Life is not predictable.
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I agree the game decision makers need a spine transplant.Seem the one they started with melted about 6 months ago.I was so excited by the early descriptions and direction of the game and with each succeeding month,more I see more and more decisions that take the game in a different direction form it's initial course.Frankly I just get to upset to hear the latest news and find more decisions I don't agree with.I've become rather stoic about the game and will just wait to see what the game turns out to be.I certainly won't consider buying it with out an extensive open beta period.
You say your son is in his early teens and he eats up every tidbit bout ESO that surfaces. I would say ESO is a safe bet based on these factors:
1) Your sons age and he can approach the game casually as this is the healthiest approach for a boy his age, considering school, extracurricular activities, friends, exercise, sleep, eating, etc...taking good care of oneself as a healthy gamer should (I speak from a vast amount of experience on this subject); Believe me living a balanced life while one games is best in the long run.
2) If your son has played Skyrim and the DLC expansions that go along with it and possibly early Elder Scrolls games this is a definite plus as Elder Scrolls Online is the name.
3) Subscription is a big plus as F2P would have doomed this game right from the start and if they can make paid DLC for Skyrim why does it not make sense for them to release content in a timely manner for subscribers? All this nonsensical talk about cash shop is talk and nothing more should be said about this nonsense.
4) Consider FFXIV just released and look at how many issues they are currently having. This actually affects pretty much any MMO that releases as even the most hearty beta tests don't resolve issues that arise once the game goes live. This is the nature of MMOs and will continue to be until computers can resolve issues in real time without affecting gameplay for users in real time.
5) Isn't it funny how many critics, skeptics, naysayers and all around judgemental blockheads come out of the woodwork when you ask for opinions or rather gut feelings, yet truly these are opinions moreso and nonetheless
What Is so funny about it is how they are here incessantly and continually, offering their opinions especially considering it isn't conducive or necessarily warranted. Such is the nature of gaming forums as it is part of the purpose they serve.
6) This is going to be more of an introductory MMO for Bethesda/Zenimax and for enthusiasts to enjoy in the vast world of Tamriel. So far it seems like alot of aspects of the single player series as well as multiplayer and massively multiplayer aspects are going to be viable for players.
7) ESO is bringing more realistic graphics and real time combat to the world of MMOs as this is of great benefit to this genre. Any class can wear any armor, use any weapon, and do any type of crafting as overly defined roles aren't a part of ESO which is a good thing.
My son is in his teens as well and though he thoroughly enjoyed Oblivion and Skyrim he has his focus elsewhere these days and in no way am I going to interfere with this or his development other then in as being supportive and positive as I can be. Depending on when ESO is released for certain platforms (namely next generation consoles) will determine when and if I am going to participate. We live in precarious times as many of us are being overloaded and overwhelmed with all sorts of stimuli, though primarily technologically. Any MMO that is being released (even ESO) should notably deviate from mistakes of past MMOs; overly defined roles, boring quests, dailys, anything that caters to the grind/timesink, etc...and serve a more productive role for the many who participate in such activity in our society.
I think it's going to be better than expected if I'm being honest. Maybe it's because I'm not that hyped about it, but they only have to do a few things to provide a good ES experience.
Let players explore - I know a portion of the world will be blocked off until you cap, but the "questing" system sounds very TES so far to me. Happen upon a point of interest, rummage around, find a note that tells you about something in a certain locale, up to you to go do it or not. Let's not forget, all the TES games have had various questing methods.
They've all had the linear story quests, they've all had the multi-chain side quests, and they've all had the "oh this sounds interesting, I'm gonna go check this out" stumble upon quests. So far, I've seen nothing that says these three quest models won't be in the game. If you don't believe me, go load up any TES game and count fedex, talk to this guy, and kill 10 rat quests you are given. Their are plenty of them. People just overlook them because while they're doing them, they get sidetracked in the world.
Character customization - Again, it doesn't sound like they're deviating from the TES model of pick your traits and mix'n'match. Now, the only downside is that this will be in MMO form, which means players WILL look for optimal builds and then indirectly force people to follow those by only inviting players to groups if they are within those parameters. It always happens, but that's not because of developers, that's because of human nature. Even if something is 1% better, it will be considered the only "viable" build. Yes, it's dumb, do your best to avoid these types of people.
That's it. That's all they have to do to give us a TES experience. If they do manage to screw it up, then it'll be a shame. But TES games are pretty simple. Aim and click combat, few abilities available at any given time, lots and lots of bugs, a storyline, and a huge open world to play in with mix'n'match character building.
If anything, it has one of the more simple RPG formulas.
I say don't sweat it, I think we'll be pleasantly surprised this time around.
Im buying the game for the next installment of TES.
If I play it a month, beat it, and then find nothing else appealing...it will have been money well spent.
I cant see them putting in a crappy story, and totally wrecking the TES feel.
Im willing to give a few sacrifices to my TES game for the sake of potentially being a decent mmorpg. Haven't known these developers to make crap (though I am worried they are known for buggy games).
I think most here will end up hating it because it doesn't provide 5 years of uninterrupted 10 hour + a day content and consider it the biggest failure of the last 50 thousand years. I cant imagine anyone even pays attention to these people anyway so who cares.
My point is I think a HUGE portion of the people who will buy this game have been, and are 100% ok, with buying a TES game and spending no more than 50 hours playing it before moving on. Yes they will come back for DLC.
Single player gamers are not nearly as retarded with games as hardcore mmorpg vets.
Sure, it could be the best thing for MMORPG players since spilt milk made a lifestyle for kittens. However, my gut is queasy about it leaving me to think that its likely just another overpriced three month wonder full of the same old crap we are all used to and worn out on that will get middling fan reviews in general and glowing praise on the pro circuit that we will all wish we hadn’t paid any heed to later. This instinctively leads me to avoid a launch day purchase and wait for the inevitable business model change and price reduction before even considering picking up the game to play so I don’t end up nerd raging in a forum thread like most people will.
Very eloquently put. I feel the way you mentioned here. As an MMO player, I'm extremely put off by the faction lock and its implications. That really is the major game breaking feature for me. The focus on the PVP is a major detraction for me, I felt a more exploration heavy model would have been appropriate. As an Elder Scrolls player and fan, I had hoped for something more akin to borderlands 2. Team up with a few friends, explore Tamriel. A lobby based game would have been much more preferred to the model they're attempting - shoving Elder Scrolls into a DAOC sized hole. I wanted to have raids in the realms of Oblivion. I wanted to have faction quests for the factions we've experienced in each game so far. I wanted player housing. None of that is in the game. As an MMO gamer and an Elder Scrolls, I'm in both audiences and from both perspectives this game fails. I suppose I will see how I like it tomorrow.
I find it distasteful they have the nerve, or foolishness, to ask for a subscription. I'm not sure why they thought that'd be a good idea, especially considering they're also launching on consoles - where a subscription has never succeeded. They've been met with either apathy, skepticism, or downright dismissal. They should have had at least the sense to remove the subscription barrier so people would just go out and pick up their game. The average console gamer won't. It seems to me that audience considers that expensive - even though it's not in comparison to the investment level required to enjoy most free to play titles. They're only launching with two of the major guilds. So far no word on any of the factions we've seen in the previous titles. What's worse is they think they can ignore that and still retain Elder Scrolls fans. I won't play another hollow game like Guild Wars 2. I think out of the all the titles on the horizon, Wildstar looks the most promising.
I do not think it will be as bat as SWTOR however I do think it will be right up there with GW2. At first glance my thoughts are that this is yet another DAOC console esque Themepark hybrid. Another linear pve adventure island with structured PVP adventure games and lackluster pve difficulty. It will not do any one thing very well but it will make everything it does do insanely easy. Unless the combat system is amazing and the pvp battlezone is a masterpiece of coding more than likely it will end up being a center of the map zergfest which will get boring after about 3 days. Then when you do get bored, because even good battlegrounds get boring, what is there to do. Easy pve adventures followed by your average crafting system. Then the world itself is zero risk.
Strictly speaking as somebody who was one of the haters who jumped all over Zenimax when they first came out and said things like "WoW-like interface and controls" "This is not an MMO" etc. all I can say is that I was wrong.
So.....very......wrong
Having seen this game up close and personal I can say that if you or your son liked Skyrim then you will love this game.
I can't and won't get into any details but this is not WoW in Tamriel, this truly is Elder Scrolls Online.
Tonight will be the first stress test where they have done a mass invite. My medium sized guild of 50-ish members has about 8 people invited to tonight's event so I would suggest that by tomorrow morning there will be videos and leaks pretty much all over the internet.
Hell there is already several hours of gameplay available via torrent if you're really that curious about what this game looks and plays like.
The above is my personal opinion. Anyone displaying a view contrary to my opinion is obviously WRONG and should STHU. (neener neener)
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As a seasoned vet my gut feeling tells me that ESO won't cure cancer, it won't create world peace and it won't be perfect. It will be a 2014 MMO with many features in common with games that are trying to improve on the genre and many features similar to those parts of previous MMOs that are worth keeping. It will be set in a familiar universe that we have gotten to know through TES games.
It will be entertainment, not an alternate life. I think I'll play.
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I was looking forward to it. I also stuck up for this game a lot in the past. However, I honestly don't think it's going to be worth the sub fee. The only thing that really interested me in this game was the fact that it was Elder Scrolls. Besides that, there isn't really anything new or interesting in this game compared to others. Anyone who wants to make a bet with me, I will accept. I am so sure this game will end up F2P by the end of 2014, I would bet my life on it lol.
Anyone who really thinks other wise, is just kidding themselves. I am not saying the game is going to be bad, on the contrary, I think it will be fun. I just don't think it will be enough to keep it going with a sub for that long.
ESO will follow in SWToR shoes. It will sell a lot of boxes. People will think its one thing but will find out its something else and start to fade pretty quick. 4-6 months in the downward slide in sub numbers will be the writing on the wall and it will go ftp or btp. The cash shop they end up with will be a money grab with people saying its made the game pay to win.
You can't be all things to all people. Is ESO Skyrim online? Is it the grandchild of DAoC? Is it pvp focused or pve? Is it open world or a themepark? The Devs are like politicians. They tell whatever group they are speaking to what they want to hear, but that doesn't explain what the game is. Less hype and more reality would be nice.
As a seasoned vet, I can tell you it's Skryim with people and a chat box. It's really that simple. Same graphics. Same UI. Same combat gameplay. Now, is that a bad thing? No, not really. I adore the ES series, but one of the negatives of all the games has been the fluidity of combat. This game has made no strides to fixing or updating that. The quests are voiced and have a very similar UI as in Skyrim. There were tons of things to find also. Every vase, chest, cabinet, urn, etc you can open. There are books and ingredients to find also. I was picking butterfly wings today and harvesting bears. Also, the game world looks pretty big. Lots of maps and the terrain is very explorer friendly, in that you want to see what's over that next hill.
The real question for me is, how will end game be, will the melee combat feel the same at release (I hope not) and will the game world feel empty as a result of the segregation of 2/3rds of the population. With that said I can def see myself leveling to max level just to play another ES rpg. What happens after that, who knows.
I have listened to all the crap said about this game and decided to go to gamescom 2013 in Koln and try it out. I was blown away with how it played and ran so smooth and it looks and feels like Skyrim just it's an MMO. After chatting with the guys from ESO for two days they told me I'd love it and I told them I'm not queuing up to play no MMO and they dragged me into the game. I was very impressed and I think many people will be surprised with this game and I predict it will be a massive success even with the sub based. Thanks to it being a sub based game is the reason I will be buying and playing it at launch.
Don't judge a book by it's cover and also what out for the hyper meter as the two can confuse you, make sure you get your son to play in open beta that will happen according to the guys as they want as many to see and play the game they have nothing to hide imo. The trouble I now have is withdrawal symptoms from not being able to get back into to the game and it's been a hell of a long time since I felt like that about a game.
I've even been emailing the guys who allowed me to play it and I'm hoping they will fire me a beta invite though I'm not to bothered if they don't as it will be the first time I've played a game without beta testing so it will be amazing to be a total N00B
Asbo
dont expect too much from this game.
Game is launching next year but right now ESO is already throwing out invites to almost anyone. Not as many ppl are playing the beta. Says something.
This is a great answer--do it for your son (though maybe just the two of you rather than the whole family). The game probably won't be all that, but then you can talk about the difference between promise and hope and reality and that lesson will be well worth the money spent. Besides, if he's so hyped for it, he will be loving it the first month anyway--and you may never get to enjoy something like that with your son again. Life is not predictable.
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