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Its nights like these, I wish we had a Wild West MMO to play...

Im up late as hell and bored looking through MMORPG, when I realize there is literally NO WILD WEST themed MMO's!?

 

How has no one ever tapped into this market? Well actually we know why, because Most MMO publisher's are looking for a cash grab and normally choses the easy "High Fantasy" route with their games...

 

Still my point remains, they should really have something in the way of a Sandbox style Wild West MMO, with outlaws and city building. I mean think about it, its the god damn frontier of America, its obviously got to be a sandbox and allow you to make towns or its removing one of the core elements of WESTERN expansion.

 

The main reason im saying this, is from earlier when I was imagining the game, I imagined just being able to ride your horse out into the wild land and hunt and skin, kinda like red dead, but without the restraining and slow story to keep you from just living in their Wild World. Imagine how awesome PVP could be? You would have to put in mounted combat because exploration would be a big deal, and someone has to be able to flee from battle or else it dosnt have that intensity you find in western movies and films. Plus imagine not having a horse and being stranded out in the desert with nothing but a six shooter and some whiskey?

 

See! There is so many possibilities you can do for an MMO Western! its pretty much endless because of how easily recognizable the genre is to us. I would even allow some sort of a Faction system between armies or whatever else if they needed to make the battle's more meaningful, just get this game done and have it on my desk Yesterday!!

 

Anyone else feel like we really need to see a Wild West MMO?

J-Hun Lookin to Creep Yall!

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  • Vermillion_RaventhalVermillion_Raventhal Member EpicPosts: 4,198
    Originally posted by JIUBHUNNY420

    Im up late as hell and bored looking through MMORPG, when I realize there is literally NO WILD WEST themed MMO's!?

     

    How has no one ever tapped into this market? Well actually we know why, because Most MMO publisher's are looking for a cash grab and normally choses the easy "High Fantasy" route with their games...

     

    Still my point remains, they should really have something in the way of a Sandbox style Wild West MMO, with outlaws and city building. I mean think about it, its the god damn frontier of America, its obviously got to be a sandbox and allow you to make towns or its removing one of the core elements of WESTERN expansion.

     

    The main reason im saying this, is from earlier when I was imagining the game, I imagined just being able to ride your horse out into the wild land and hunt and skin, kinda like red dead, but without the restraining and slow story to keep you from just living in their Wild World. Imagine how awesome PVP could be? You would have to put in mounted combat because exploration would be a big deal, and someone has to be able to flee from battle or else it dosnt have that intensity you find in western movies and films. Plus imagine not having a horse and being stranded out in the desert with nothing but a six shooter and some whiskey?

     

    See! There is so many possibilities you can do for an MMO Western! its pretty much endless because of how easily recognizable the genre is to us. I would even allow some sort of a Faction system between armies or whatever else if they needed to make the battle's more meaningful, just get this game done and have it on my desk Yesterday!!

     

    Anyone else feel like we really need to see a Wild West MMO?

     

    The thing about Western MMORPG is that most cowboys were actually just cattle farmers lol.   What would you do mine, law/outlaw, farm, bars, tailor and gunsmith I guess.  

     

    But yeah, if Rockstar turned Read Dead into an MMORPG I would be there.  

  • mCalvertmCalvert Member CommonPosts: 1,283
    Originally posted by Vermillion_Raventhal

     

     

    The thing about Western MMORPG is that most cowboys were actually just cattle farmers lol.   What would you do mine, law/outlaw, farm, bars, tailor and gunsmith I guess.  

     

    But yeah, if Rockstar turned Read Dead into an MMORPG I would be there.  

    The farmers would be the NPCs. The players would be the cowboys, outlaws, sherrifs, Pinkertons, etc. Unless you wanted to be a bartender. And don't forget the Indian faction. By 1850 there were over 20 million people in the West. Plenty of gunslingers there.

     

  • stevebombsquadstevebombsquad Member UncommonPosts: 884
    Originally posted by mCalvert
    Originally posted by Vermillion_Raventhal

     

     

    The thing about Western MMORPG is that most cowboys were actually just cattle farmers lol.   What would you do mine, law/outlaw, farm, bars, tailor and gunsmith I guess.  

     

    But yeah, if Rockstar turned Read Dead into an MMORPG I would be there.  

    The farmers would be the NPCs. The players would be the cowboys, outlaws, sherrifs, Pinkertons, etc. Unless you wanted to be a bartender. And don't forget the Indian faction. By 1850 there were over 20 million people in the West. Plenty of gunslingers there.

     

    I would have farming  and ranching be a class and have a crafting system similar to SWG. Food could have different qualities based off the quality of the ingredients and could provide meaningful endurance buffs. This would allow for cantinas and bars, entertainers, and harvesting professions. It would be a nice change of pace for the people who like the social part of MMO gaming and not the combat part.

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  • VincerKadenVincerKaden Member UncommonPosts: 457

    That's....

     

     

     

    ... actually a really good idea! Where do I sign up? And who cares if it's historically accurate?

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  • RoxtarrRoxtarr Member CommonPosts: 1,122
    Dino Storm actually has a wild-west vibe to it. It's obviously a casual browser based game, but it's cowboys on dinosaurs.

    If in 1982 we played with the current mentality, we would have burned down all the pac man games since the red ghost was clearly OP. Instead we just got better at the game.
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  • VincerKadenVincerKaden Member UncommonPosts: 457
    Why aren't we able to play Firefly Online?

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  • koboldfodderkoboldfodder Member UncommonPosts: 447

    This thread sums up the entire 15 years of MMO gaming.

     

    Someone comes up with an idea that sounds really good, then they boil it down to classes, then someone brings up some F2P crap MMO that has nothing to do with the original OP's idea and says "it has a wild west feel to it".

     

    Yea...Dine Storm....surely that can suffice for a Wild West MMO.

  • RobbHoodRobbHood Member Posts: 58

    Been asking the OP's question for years.  I found this indie game awhile back and spoke to the creator viv email and their forums.

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    I's a long way off but has great features.  Take a look. Talk it up if you like it.  A Wild West  MMO would be a hit.  Red Dead Redemption was big as a single player,

  • Electro057Electro057 Member UncommonPosts: 683
    Only if it comes with saloons, whores, and syphilis.....Then I might consider it. Also it has to be riddled with disease, short life expectancy, food shortages, and a lack of bathrooms resulting in low hygiene and filth in the streets. Don't forget horse droppings...If we're doing this we're going 100% authentic. 

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  • MightyUncleanMightyUnclean Member EpicPosts: 3,531
    There would be elves, right?  Elven cowboys?
  • mCalvertmCalvert Member CommonPosts: 1,283
    Originally posted by koboldfodder

    This thread sums up the entire 15 years of MMO gaming.

     

    Someone comes up with an idea that sounds really good, then they boil it down to classes, then someone brings up some F2P crap MMO that has nothing to do with the original OP's idea and says "it has a wild west feel to it".

     

    Yea...Dine Storm....surely that can suffice for a Wild West MMO.

    No one brought up classes. I mentioned ROLES.

     

    edit: sorry, steve did, but I think he meant professions, not classes.

  • mCalvertmCalvert Member CommonPosts: 1,283
    Originally posted by Electro057
    Only if it comes with saloons, whores, and syphilis.....Then I might consider it. Also it has to be riddled with disease, short life expectancy, food shortages, and a lack of bathrooms resulting in low hygiene and filth in the streets. Don't forget horse droppings...If we're doing this we're going 100% authentic. 

    Its an RPG, not a virtual world.

  • JIUBHUNNY420JIUBHUNNY420 Member Posts: 131
    Originally posted by mCalvert
    Originally posted by Electro057
    Only if it comes with saloons, whores, and syphilis.....Then I might consider it. Also it has to be riddled with disease, short life expectancy, food shortages, and a lack of bathrooms resulting in low hygiene and filth in the streets. Don't forget horse droppings...If we're doing this we're going 100% authentic. 

    Its an RPG, not a virtual world.

     

    Im going to have to disagree with you, I think the Wild West is a perfect setting for a Virtual World game!

    Like I said before you have the elements of building and crafting which fit with the Ameircan Lore of Western Expansion. As others have stated most people may have been farmers, but you can be damn sure alot of those farmers wielded guns effectivley and had multiple other jobs/tasks as well, making a skill based system would seem more appropriate than a class based system.

    Now here's where I somewhat agree with you because although I like virtual world games like SWG, EvE, etc. I do find that most if not all, lack ANY kind of direction gameplay wise for the player. Although Im kinda sick of RPG's giving me quest locations, I think it would be better if you had quest Hubs that allowed for direct missions for rewarding the players who want a more linear gamestyle while giving the virtual world crowd the option of goin directly into the wilds to hunt and kill bandits using their own form of justice.

    So if your a city slicker, but you want to see action, you most likely would join with the Pinkertons' and roam around patrol citys, protecting citizens, and riding outside city bounds only for big group missions and official raids with the Sheriff. 

    Then on the other hand you could be a straight hunter/gunslinger roaming with your horse through the Wild West, just killing bandits, or even setting up your own group of outlaws who hunt mechants and travellers in the open PVP areas between city's.

    YES YOU MUST HAVE OPEN PVP AREAS

    I know so many people are against Open PVP but honestly, for the sake of Lore and for just plain consistency you MUST have Open PVP in a Wild West style game. ITs not about appealing to a market in this case because there currently is an untapped market for this type of game, theres not limit on what can and cant be done. 

    So what Im saying is, if someones going to make the fist wild West game, they need to try and stick appropriately to the idea of a mostly ungoverned portion of America filled with too many guns and not enough distraction.

    J-Hun Lookin to Creep Yall!

  • DocBrodyDocBrody Member UncommonPosts: 1,926

    Play Red Dead Redemption if you want immersive Wild West.

    It doesn't need other players jumping around ruining the atmosphere.

     

  • LacedOpiumLacedOpium Member EpicPosts: 2,327

     

    My friends and I have been talking about this for years.  The wild west would be an epic back drop for an MMORPG.  You've got cowboys, indians, bandits, etc.  The trilogy can easily be fulfilled with Hoss type tanks, midrange gunslingers, long range snipers, cowboy medics.  On the indian side we've got Axes, bows, indian, guns, indian witch doctors, etc.  A variety of horses for mounts, sturdy, fast, battle mounts, etc.  The gear would be fantastic as well.  It's a shame no developer has ever taken the chance on this gold mine.  It is so fitting and ripe for an MMORPG.  You'd think someone would have strayed away from the over saturated elves and orks fantasy realm by now.  I guess we can hope. 

  • LacedOpiumLacedOpium Member EpicPosts: 2,327
    Originally posted by JIUBHUNNY420
    Originally posted by mCalvert
    Originally posted by Electro057
    Only if it comes with saloons, whores, and syphilis.....Then I might consider it. Also it has to be riddled with disease, short life expectancy, food shortages, and a lack of bathrooms resulting in low hygiene and filth in the streets. Don't forget horse droppings...If we're doing this we're going 100% authentic. 

    Its an RPG, not a virtual world.

    YES YOU MUST HAVE OPEN PVP AREAS

    I know so many people are against Open PVP but honestly, for the sake of Lore and for just plain consistency you MUST have Open PVP in a Wild West style game. ITs not about appealing to a market in this case because there currently is an untapped market for this type of game, theres not limit on what can and cant be done. 

    So what Im saying is, if someones going to make the fist wild West game, they need to try and stick appropriately to the idea of a mostly ungoverned portion of America filled with too many guns and not enough distraction.

     

    Although I understand your reason with the open PvP, that is a proposition full of land mines.  There is a reason very few, if any, developers have delved into the wild west realm.  And that is because the wild west is not popular with the younger generation.  So it is already going to be a challenge tapping into a base that will bring a dependable source of revenue.  IMHO, an idea like this would have to appeal to the masses before any investors would even touch it.  I realize an argument is usually forth coming from the PvP centric crowd, but it goes without saying that OW PvP does not appeal to the masses.  Again, I understand your reasoning, but rule number one in introducing a product to the public is understanding the market, and tempering expectations accordingly.

  • JIUBHUNNY420JIUBHUNNY420 Member Posts: 131
    Originally posted by LacedOpium

     

    My friends and I have been talking about this for years.  The wild west would be an epic back drop for an MMORPG.  You've got cowboys, indians, bandits, etc.  The trilogy can easily be fulfilled with Hoss type tanks, midrange gunslingers, long range snipers, cowboy medics.  On the indian side we've got Axes, bows, indian, guns, indian witch doctors, etc.  A variety of horses for mounts, sturdy, fast, battle mounts, etc.  The gear would be fantastic as well.  It's a shame no developer has ever taken the chance on this gold mine.  It is so fitting and ripe for an MMORPG.  You'd think someone would have strayed away from the over saturated elves and orks fantasy realm by now.  I guess we can hope. 

    See! I like what you said because its completely different from how I imagined a Wild West game, a Trinity system COULD work for a Wild West game, it doesnt have to be sandbox and skill based, or even action combat. Literally all it has to be is a unique representation of the Wild West Lore. 

     

    I like the idea of different mount-types too, especially because it would make being a scout a viable option. And indian's having a witchdoctor dps/healer would be sick!

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  • Crazy_StickCrazy_Stick Member Posts: 1,059
    I might support something like a Deadlands pen & paper inspired western MMORPG. But I would be hesitant to touch a historical one due to the ugliness of the times and the age of political correctness we live in.
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  • QuirhidQuirhid Member UncommonPosts: 6,230
    Originally posted by Crazy_Stick
    I might support something like a Deadlands pen & paper inspired western MMORPG. But I would be hesitant to touch a historical one due to the ugliness of the times and the age of political correctness we live in.

    I was thinking the same thing.

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  • TheLizardbonesTheLizardbones Member CommonPosts: 10,910


    Originally posted by Quirhid
    Originally posted by Crazy_Stick I might support something like a Deadlands pen & paper inspired western MMORPG. But I would be hesitant to touch a historical one due to the ugliness of the times and the age of political correctness we live in.
    I was thinking the same thing.


    I don't know what Deadlands is, but if it's anything like the television show, "Wild, Wild West", I might be in. Or something like a post-post apocalyptic world, that happened to turn out Wild, Wild West style.

    Screw it. Just revise history with some Wild Wild West, Cthulhu and Victorian Steam Punk in the big cities.

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  • SpellforgedSpellforged Member UncommonPosts: 458
    Red Dead Redemption the MMO?  I could only support a Wild West MMO with real-time combat in a third person or first person perspective.  IMO that old hotkey gameplay would just fall flat in a Wild West setting.  I think it should also have open world PvP and player looting just for extra immersion.  Maybe an automated bounty system that accumulates based on every criminal action you do?  Players could just visit a bounty board or something that displays your online status/last location and pick up a quest to kill you.  Kill the player, return to bounty board, turn in quest and get the reward kind of thing.  That would be kind of chaotic but perfect for a fictional wild west game.

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  • vmopedvmoped Member Posts: 1,708

    Period MMO's like the wild west would be awesome.  I have also wished for an mmo during the age of imperialism.  The only issues I could see with either setting would be possible issues with the representation of exploitation of native peoples.  Honestly I would love to play a native American sniping some peeps.

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  • JIUBHUNNY420JIUBHUNNY420 Member Posts: 131
    Originally posted by Ujirik
    Red Dead Redemption the MMO?  I could only support a Wild West MMO with real-time combat in a third person or first person perspective.  IMO that old hotkey gameplay would just fall flat in a Wild West setting.  I think it should also have open world PvP and player looting just for extra immersion.  Maybe an automated bounty system that accumulates based on every criminal action you do?  Players could just visit a bounty board or something that displays your online status/last location and pick up a quest to kill you.  Kill the player, return to bounty board, turn in quest and get the reward kind of thing.  That would be kind of chaotic but perfect for a fictional wild west game.

    This! I think it would be great if death wasnt that meaningful, but your reputation was. I would rather death be painless other than returning you to a spawn, but reputation should be a big deal. Think about it, if you have a giant bounty from killing a bunch off innocents, then everyone would be hunting you all the time. It would force tough PVP players to form their own groups to fight against the bounty hunters who are the ones actually gaining a profit from the bounty as opposed to the bandit who actually suffers from his actions but recieves a status in exchange as a notorious bandit.

     

     

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  • meadmoonmeadmoon Member UncommonPosts: 1,344

    We need a Wild, Wild West MMO.

    Oh, and not in the style of the Will Smith POS movie.

    In the style of the original series...

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