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DnL going to be a great game
lonewolf1980
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i know by posting this i will get flame for it.
First, i'm not a fanboi, so i alway try to keep an open mind about everything, and i lke to try out before judge, unlike some of people that don't have a mind of their own.
The graphic look horrible, but this is BETA, SOG is not DnL. SoG is a rip off beta verson of DnL, so keep this in your little minds.
There are a few bugs and some delayed, but most game are all like this on there first day of release. i remembered that the same things happened to SWG, like items gone in inv. All i got is the game crashed a few times, so it not that bad for SoG
So far all the concepts of the game are great, and this going to be a great game, graphic can be fix, bug can be fix in the final verson DnL.
Conlusion, first day opening of all MMORPG expected to be some delay, and first month expected to have some bugs, the bugs are not that bad comparsing to someother game like swg, and shadowbane, and the Dragon alone worth $60. Most everyone are mad because after the delay they got on for a few hours then the server shut down time from tuesday to thursday. There are a learning curve to game for everyone after u know most about the controls, game mechanism, yu'll love it.
PS i saw someone standing at one spot for hours yelling in chat asking, how to get your dragon out, and didn't get an answer or get this /pet message ( it doesn't work, u have to put one skill point into mount, and a dragon skill will be on your tool bar, alllow u to summon dragon ). so after hours and he/she can't get the dragon to work, then got kick off then go post a horrible flame on the game.
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/ agreed Time heals everything
Greets from a still very hopefull pioneer
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Its got potential... Yes they've shot themselves in the foot a bit with deadlines etc...
but the isn't that bad for a beta/prelaunch.... Hell its almost as good as galaxies is atm
Well, lets get through your post, shall we...
a) Stating that SoG is just a very poor rip off of the original DnL game is very naive, dont you think? There is absolutley no reason to believe that they would present anything less then the current and therefore most advanced version of their game. Thousands of people are going to play it and will base their judgement on DnL on what SoG delivers - and share their experiences with other people all over the internet. This is the first time ever that DnL is presented to the public. A failure might have very serious conequences ...
b) Yes graphics do look horrible. Although I have to say that the landscapes - using max settings - are nicley done and have a very unique feel to them. But the Character models and especially the animations are absolutly horrible ...after F I V E years of development.
c) You are talking of a few bugs...as a matte of fact the start of SoG has been a disaster...dont these guys do some proper testing of their server architecture before they go into public? Supposedly thousands of beta testers have played the closed beta so far. That means that NPcube should already now what their servers can handle and how to configure it properly. SoG is NOT a beta, but a spin off of the current DnL Development and is supposed to be beyond alpha stage...which it is not.
d) You speak of "some delays"...they kept delaying the release of this game for a couple of YEARS
e) taking SWG as a reference is not a good idea. this game is very well about to go down in MMORPG history as of how not to release a game ...
f) there is apparently no real content whatsoever in this game, ...after such a long development time..
So if we now sum up all of these aspects it is only valid to criticise this game - no matter if we have paid for it or not. The kept telling us for years how great this game will be and which wonderful features it will have..
And they just failed to deliver...
Looking at this in a realistic way it seems absolutley impossible, that this game will be released in april. No way
An no, I am not a "hater"...I was visiting the website once in a while, kept an eye on it and thought that the concpet sounds pretty interesting - actually had high hopes for this game. However, this started to change druing the last months because of the very serious communication-problems of the Devs and the constant delays.
I'm a pioneer, first off, and I've been following this game for quite some time. Early 2004 to be exact. Amidst all the delays and broken promises, DnL still has a lot fo potential, but also a lot of work still left to be done. Do I regret the $60, no, it's peanuts, but I certainly did expect better than this.
Overall, the graphics are sub-standard. The environment, IMO, looks very good, but the character models look early 2nd gen beta. The equipment, weapons, mobs, etc. all need some improvement. Even at the highest detail settings, they aren't up to snuff with current MMOs.
The combat system is pretty borked. It's intuitive, and while the UI looks primitive, it's easy to figure out. However, there are still range issues and issues trying to get your character to do anything. I dislike the buttons, and it's hard to tell if you're actually clicking them. There's no real click effect other than a red meter on the button itself. So, interaction is difficult to judge.
The menus, as with the UI, are pretty basic, but still have a very unpolished look. The chat system is robust, but again, looks like somehting out of a 1st gen mmo.
The sound is fairly non-existent. Aside from the music, many of the sounds haven't been implemented. Other than a few spells, I have yet to hear any combat sounds.
Lag. The game lags and chops a bit when a lot of players are close together. Given that the land is so large, this will likely even out as players progess. However, the game itself feels sluggish, especially the menus. It's almost like we're all underwater. It's not graphics or lag, it's just the game. I think as the code is refined, this will smooth out.
If this game were 6 months until release, I'd probably have a bit of doubt. Given a strong development team, they could pull it off in very good fashion. 4 months is a very aggressive timeline if SoG truly is in the same state as the current closed beta. If SoG is an early beta build, then perhaps we're not seeing the actual current state of the product.
Farlan is a small company with a LOT at stake. So I have no doubt they are doing their best, and I certainly do not think they are ripping off their devoted fan base. $500K is nothing compared to the financial loss they'd take if DnL completely tanked.
That said, 4 months, a lot of work to do and a small development team = tough road to hoe.
I certainly didn't flame it. I just gave my honest opinion. I wasn't impressed at all and I stated why. I've decided not to play the SoG "prelude" because it's really pretty bad. Maybe once they sort things out and turn it into something playable, I'll give it another go. It could very well be that I'm more impatient than many people... but from what I've read, even from the fans who paid $60 to preview DnL... I'm in the majority, not the minority. I think people do go overboard with their flaming and snarky comments, though. A bit here and there I can deal with, but the constant barrage of insults against, not only the game, but people who try and stay positive is getting a bit old.
Oh, and Fratman... you have got to be one of the worst sort of poster I've seen on any board, ever. It's almost as if you're trying to get people to dislike you... even those who may agree with your sentiments. You are just plain annoying.
1) The concept for this game has always been great. It's been that way 4 years ago and still today. Problem is getting from concept to live product. It's not looking good.
2) SoG is not a rip off of beta. Right now, it's better then beta version.
3) There are many bugs. Some bugs are 6-12+ months old.
With 4 months to go, lets ignore the connection problems, you should expect core components (UI, animations, graphics, combat, NPC / Quest, crafting, and etc.) to be in-game and functional, but they are not. WoW was so much further along at 4 months before release than this game. Blizzard has the manpower to make changes in short time. Farlan does not.
What many people may not realize is that DnL, and SoG, is NOT a new by any means. It has been in development for years. This fact that the state of the game in it's Beta form is in such poor condition, after so long and so many delays, makes for a very disgruntled follower of this game.
I haven't given up hope, but I surely don't expect DnL to be released in April of 2006 in a completed state, with all of the features promised and with minimal bugs. I think we're going to have to wait for 2007 sometime for that, and there is only so much waiting around for this game I can do.
Besides this, the total lack of communication between NPcube/AD with the community really has damaged the relationship between the people following the game and the people making the game.
Add some more very questionable management decisions made by Farlan, and this is what you get - a very frustrated community. I don't doubt that the game will someday be amazing, but when will that be, and can the devs really do it? I have no confidence anymore, not after what have seen over the past 2+ years.
I dont understand how people can give a final verdict already after 2 hours playing maximum.
No. It is not.
...and if it is, NP3 through the voice of AD and supported by Farlan have lied to us for months. If that is a lie, then, they deserve to get bankrupt and sued.
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There are 10 kind of programmers. Those who understand binary code and those who don't.
i tend to lean towards agreeing with the OP.
i think its just too early to tell. bugs are a fact of life...mistakes and unforseen events happen.
my first impressions were not good as alot of people but in all fairness to the devs you have too give them a chance. i think it will take several weeks or more to get this game polished. like i said things happen...time will tell.
oops...
Actually SoG is not a beta. There's a separate beta going on.
Betas themselves are a rip off version of the full game. And SoG is a rip off of the beta version. So you know it's not gonna have a lot of content or a polished feel.
A voice of reason again Signe. Thanks for being one of the very few. I wish I had your patience. I tried, but my gasket finally blew yesterday and I got my first ever warning for flaming, although my post quoted nobody and mentioned no poster by name but it seems I must have been flaming by implication, which is a new one to me
. One that I find a tad strange also with all the overt flaming passing through here at the moment. Oh well, dinner beckons then some nice relaxing DAoC 
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replying to all the haters.
1. If u a pioneer ( payed $60 ) and you don't like this beta SoG, you SOL, cuz no refund.
2. If u r a settler ( free account ) shut up!, u didn't lost anything.so u have no right to post or flame about the game.
3. if u don't like this beta SoG, pm me with your account info, cuz i have 3 friends and a guild would glad to have your accounts
4. to all the haters, maybe u guys should go join the D&DO open tress test and flame that game to hell. ( u can join the D&DO tress test at fileplanet. )
1. Nope didnt pay anything.
2. Yes I have two free accounts, and I will flame this game as often as I wish if I choose to. I've been following this game for 3 years, I have every right to complain about NP3 not living up to anything they promised to deliver.
3. No, for one, it's not a beta. If you read the Dark and Light site you would know this. Second I am keeping the accounts for myself and my wife in the off chance that they fix the issues they have.
4. I kknow nothing about D&D online. I have been following DnL not D&D.
quoted for truth.
So any of you who think that Np3 has something up their sleeve with more content or an improved client, you're dreaming, and you're wrong. This is the current state of DnL development (the latest beta build) at its BEST, after 4+ years of development! Some of the bugs in SoG are more than 12 months old. Ponder that for a bit...
i really had high hopes for this game... sad eh?
-pensic-
After a day and a half of fighting with the login server, they still can't get it to work.
Very soon, we will not be bitching about the game because NP3 is French, so they will surrender soon.
hmm what you freakin nuts? the game rockers so what if there a few buggs i like them because the help me pk lowbie faster. DUH that way we playing the game so we can caught all the bugges before DNL comes out...geeez
and belive me i not sad that i uber
NUMBER OF NOOBIES PWN 27
NUMBER OF lowies PKED 82
AND growing
and i anit lying, i uber
You sir are a shining light in these oh so dark times. You give us hope when many of us cannot find the strength to continue. You are our beacon when we are lost. Our faith when we despair. Lead us oh pizzadude, lead us to the wonderland of your experience so that we too may be pwned by thee and enter into the kingdom of lowbie pk bugges!
Take our blood so that you may grow stronger! We die to serve you pizzadude, you are truely uber!!
It feels like only 2 people are currently working on DNL with the rest of their team busy working on their tans at the beach in Reunion Island
Their coders have done very little from April to Nov of 2005 (read dev chats), I doubt they'll fix the game up for april, they're slow coders (and unqualified, imo).
List of things to work on:
- Improve combat sounds (poor quality or non existent atm)
- Redo/massively improve combat mechanics/balancing altogether
- Hire technical writers to translate and properly write up all the english material in the game (won't happen)
- Add an interesting/worthwhile PVP reward system and focus on PVP more
- Add dungeons (before summer 2006, we don't want that in an expansion pack either)
The only missing elements between SoG and DNL is what NPCube will implement between now and april 2006. I believe they've lied about having any other material they've been "working on" for years. They haven't given us more to play with because that material doesn't exist yet.
we'll see how they patch things up I guess.. lol
Actually, the DDO stress test is very good. a single server is handling all of the players just fine. No lag. Did I mention that the server is actually up and running? Let's leave other mmos out of this, shall we, and focus on SoG and DnL.
I think it is apparent that SoG is a beta form of DnL. It is obvious that it isn't even ready to be tested by the number of players they intended. The server is hardly ever up, and when it is, performance has been poor for many players. Overall, the game is just so underwhelming. When I think of all the time that they had to develop this, I wonder what in the world was going on. Then I think of the time they'll need to get this game to where it needs to be. If they are going to keep the same dev team with the same resources, we won't see DnL for a long time still.
I'll be back then, when it's a mmorpg.