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THIS IS AN AMATUER GAME!!!
onti
Member Posts: 137
This game suxs and the coders and all the builders of this game all are amatuer. They dont know how to make a MMORPG game! Always error error and error when I start launcher. Sometimes it opens the launcher but when the game opened it gives another error. They even dont have an information site about server. We dont know when is the server up or down. Its ridiculous!!! I couldnt even played it!!! I waited for years to play this game but I couldnt play it. They open server for 2 hours and nobody can play it. This is all a big joke. f*** this game and go and play another game.
I dont expect it to be perfect but they can do it better!!!
PLANING!!!!!!!!!! first thing you need. We are not stupid players who thinks only the company is right (like Krude). We want to play this beta game and test it. We expect more help and useful informations. We want the games website gives enough information and we want to know what is going on and what is the problem.
BUT!!! they dont say anything they shut down the server and they dont say any information in their website and than they close the websites forum!!!! I played SWG and more other games and they were behaving like proffessionals not like noobs. okay thats the point. PLANING AND CONNECTING WITH PLAYERS!!!! CUSTOMER SERVICE!!!! THESE ARE IMPORTANT.
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NAR NAR Sweetner
FUNNY HOW MANY VIEWS THIS IS GETTING 125 lol
YOU KNOW WE ARE RIGHT THATS WAY none of you have the balls to
stick up for that POS sog.
LOL THATS RIGHT KEEP ON LOOKING
NAR NAR Sweetner
Well everyone they can that they are "right".
All i have to say is:
Just wait and let do the Devs their work.
What would you do if you created a game and the servers would not come up?
Make an announcment whith: OMG WTF we dont know what happend WE ARE SCREWED UP!!!
Ofcource not keep the communaty wait a bit and find out what the real problems are and when you know more about the issue THEN post it like they did.
And yes it was smart to close them forums since forum database is olso their Account database and whith soowh many people on the forums it makes it for them impossible to repair stuff(what we all want). They already gaved us more information then they ever ever ever did before.
I must admid that they are not the best graphic disginers but thats why they have SnailGame now and thats olso the reason why the most screens are comming from the Chinese website.
The closed beta is still running and they defenitly do a lot of work for us.
Yes they all promote the game whith: The largest mmorpg you have ever seen. well they are right and the land is there already for quite sometime(i can remember a devchat where a Dev told us that NPC had created a dwarven town that not even was discoverd for a YEAR!!!! by the devs. This proofs that the world i finished if you ask me. Whith some buggs left for the login servers and the game itself and Snail Game for the graphics i think they can be ready April 2006.
Greets From a still very hopefull Pioneer
Maybe he couldn't CREATE a better game... but he could certainly BUY a better game. Although I'm not nuts about the way the OP posts, whether or not he can create a better game than people who do it for a living has nothing to do with anything. It's a strange point you're trying to argue and it doesn't really make any sense.
You don't need to play SoG to know that Farlan/NPcube are noob. Look at how they have handled the situation over the past few years:
Once every 6 months or so they would promise to add another 100 or so beta testers. First off I think that was bogus. Sure they had some beta testers, but not hundreds of them as we were lead to believe. They claimed that beta selection was based on forum productivity. So, they were basicly giving everyone false hope in order to produce hype. That's why you have folks with 2000-3000 post count over at the DnL forums who registered in '05.
New game information was rarely, if ever released. Instead we got "treated" to some silly stories about Corky the Dwarf and his magical staff, or some stuff. Some of which may/maynot contain tidbits of game information. Fan fiction is fine & dandy, but is that the most effective way to inform your audience? I think not. The screen shots do not look great. The movies of DnL from about 2 years ago look the exact same as SoG does now... where is the progress?
Also, I cannot count how many times DnL has been "nearly complete & ready for release" ...then pushed back. Probably 3-4 times since I started crusing the dnl forums a few years ago.
That was just the past.
Now, we get this entire mess with the DnL Pre-Order. The entire process had 'noob' written all over it. It was overpriced (for a pre-order of any game, much less an incomplete one). It was handled by a POS 3rd party company that I had never heard of and will never use again due to the fact my PayPal account is 10 times better. Also, let's not forget you had to pre-order DnL BEFORE you tried out SoG. How many of you would pre-order DnL after the past few days of messing with SoG?
The fact is, yes, they are noob. But, that's why most of us were attracted to them in the first place. They were the new flavor on the block and we all hoped they would pull it off. It's just too bad they decided to spit in our faces instead of putting out a good product.
All i'm saying is that he thinks they don't know how to make an mmo, implying that he thinks he can, so go make one....
If you play SOG expecting a finished, polished game then yes your going to be disappointed.... Too many people seem to be expecting too much, over the next couple of months i'm sure it'll improve alot, the core of the world seems to be there, just needs optimizing and the extras adding.. hell if you saw SWG or WOW beta 4-6 months before launch you'd be equally unimpressed....
As for the other posters comment about the pre order being run by a 3rd party company he'd never heard of... Yeah ok i've never heard of BT...... They're only a multi billion international company
I was in both those beta tests and didn't encounter the mess that I found to be SoG. I think people are kind of disappointed because they, at least, expected it to LOOK a bit better, after all the hype. I will say in it's defense, however, it looked much better than Mourning did even after it launched. I certainly don't expect a polished game, even though they tout it as a prelude and you'd think they would want to show it off well, but I did expect a bit more than I got. As far as I'm concerned, it's not playable so I'll wait until it is or until I lose interest and wander off.
I understand your need to speak up here, but, you are misinformed about a great many things.
1) SoG is not, nor has ever been, hyped as a "beta." It is, in fact, a prequel to Dark and Light. This is not my viewpoint, this is NPC/farlan saying this. A great many people are saying its a beta. It's not. DnL, presumably, still has it's own closed-door beta.
In addition, DnL has been in beta for nearly 2 years. Was WoW or SWG perfect in beta testing for the 4-6 months prior to release? No. But, DnL has been in beta 2 years...and in development for 4. Do you see the point here? If SoG is designed to be a simple, no frills, prequel then they should have had enough time in the 2 years of beta testing DnL to know how to construct it. If they couldn't construct it, then they should not have put it out!
2) BT has not, and does not, have anything directly to do with the release of SoG. Farlan used BitTorrent protocol to release a product, nothing more. Hell, you can put videos of your dog watching soap-operas on BT and they wouldn't know the difference, nor would they care.
People are talking about AlchemicDream, Farlan, and Click&Buy when they are complaining about the process. Yes, I agree BT was a poor choice to release a game client on, but that is not BT's fault. Fact: BT was made to sit in the background and download large anime files, not to be used by cheap game developers to release game clients in a frenzy. That is what FilePlanet and similar services are for.
I hope you are now informed and can make better arguments in the future.
kurde bele he have got damn right !!!!
witch part u dont understand :P
Since Krude's post was deleted by a mod, I thought I should delete mine too, since I quoted it.
Christ...
What Farlan did wrong was making SoG. Way too many people with an IQ below 50 don't understand that this a just a freaking prelude! It's free and it has just been release.. No one, I repeat NO ONE, have paid a penny for this game... How do you get people to understand!? Is it really THAT hard!?
Onti - You are the perfect example of what i speak of. You are total clueless about what your talking about...
God damn...!
I dont expect it to be perfect but they can do it better!!!
PLANING!!!!!!!!!! first thing you need. We are not stupid players who thinks only the company is right (like Krude). We want to play this beta game and test it. We expect more help and useful informations. We want the games website gives enough information and we want to know what is going on and what is the problem.
BUT!!! they dont say anything they shut down the server and they dont say any information in their website and than they close the websites forum!!!! I played SWG and more other games and they were behaving like proffessionals not like noobs. okay thats the point. PLANING AND CONNECTING WITH PLAYERS!!!! CUSTOMER SERVICE!!!! THESE ARE IMPORTANT.
I understand your need to speak up here, but, you are misinformed about a great many things.
1) SoG is not, nor has ever been, hyped as a "beta." It is, in fact, a prequel to Dark and Light. This is not my viewpoint, this is NPC/farlan saying this. A great many people are saying its a beta. It's not. DnL, presumably, still has it's own closed-door beta.
In addition, DnL has been in beta for nearly 2 years. Was WoW or SWG perfect in beta testing for the 4-6 months prior to release? No. But, DnL has been in beta 2 years...and in development for 4. Do you see the point here? If SoG is designed to be a simple, no frills, prequel then they should have had enough time in the 2 years of beta testing DnL to know how to construct it. If they couldn't construct it, then they should not have put it out!
2) BT has not, and does not, have anything directly to do with the release of SoG. Farlan used BitTorrent protocol to release a product, nothing more. Hell, you can put videos of your dog watching soap-operas on BT and they wouldn't know the difference, nor would they care.
People are talking about AlchemicDream, Farlan, and Click&Buy when they are complaining about the process. Yes, I agree BT was a poor choice to release a game client on, but that is not BT's fault. Fact: BT was made to sit in the background and download large anime files, not to be used by cheap game developers to release game clients in a frenzy. That is what FilePlanet and similar services are for.
I hope you are now informed and can make better arguments in the future.
Phife, Sorez is referring to British Telecom, the company that is affiliated with Click & Buy, when he says 'BT' (not BitTorrent). They did, as Sorez says, handle the pre-orders. Now you are better informed as well.
Clearly the game has a lot of problems, but I'm not ready to write it off yet. I'll give them a few months before I start to bitch about the game.
agreed with OP, good post
"New game information was rarely, if ever released. Instead we got "treated" to some silly stories about Corky the Dwarf and his magical staff, or some stuff."
LOL.. I got a magic staff in my pants.
Is it the Magic Staff of Shrinking? I want to see it! Anyone have some tweezers and a microscope?
More disturbing than the quality of the game is the way the devs treat their customers. Its one thing to make a bad game but to leave people hanging for 3 days trying to log in with no information is awful. They have known full well that people have been been spending every waking minute now for the last 3 days trying to log in. It would have been humane and decent to let me people know the status with some deadline. It really does make people not like them when it appears they care very little for their customers. A bad game is one thing but a genuine lack of basic human courtsey is something much worse.
I would love to see them take the down the server for 2 weeks, a month, a year or whatever time is neccessary to get them working and stable. There is no reason to put their customers through something like this when it can be advoided by proper testing and preparation.
SoG is supposed to be a prequel yes, but a fully functional complete game in itself. Just smaller with less content then the full game will have. But all of the content in SoG is supposed to be finished or only needing minor tweaking. Clearly this is not the case.
To my understanding SoG, while a prelude to DnL is an adaption of the current gameplay in DnL. So logically if DnL is still in closed beta then the elements you're experiencing in SoG are the fundamental elements of the current DnL beta (i.e. game mechanics, combat system, magic, etc.). And from what I've heard, to be honest, it may not be great but I've seen far worse! I've been testing games like this for years and let me tell ya, if what's been said is true (I don't have a key as of yet) then this prelude certainly doesn't reflect that of a game that will be ready in six months, but with the right testers and the right developers this can easily be turned around.
I was a member of the DnL community site for a several months now and from what I've seen, the developers seem to be pretty good about following community feedback so I have faith they'll improve the flawed mechanics and other various problems. Only time will tell, and this certainly will take some time. But above all else have some patience! From what I've seen you'd think those of you guys ranting on about how unplayable this is have never beta tested a game before an open beta. Now I haven't played it, but I'm sure the devs are working on making the game quite playable, and the forums will be back in time. You'll more than have your chance to tell the developers what you think and I'd be willing to bey they'll listen.
I'm not disappointed by DnL, because I didn't expect it to be even close as good as it was hyped by everyone. I wasn't ever thinking that it would be the new #1 of MMORPGs or something like that.
Because what gives me actually the reason to do so? It's developed by a new company with no experience, no background information and lack of money. What makes the possiblity of the success even smaller is the fact, that the devTeam has already proven that they can't hold their deadlines, are lacking of professionality and are "hiding" something since the only information you actually got of DnL was fairly small, especially since they made so many promises, but couldn't prove any of them.
I'm not a fanboy nor troll of DnL, and won't ever be, since this game doesn't bother me. I just say it is as good/bad as expected.