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another pvp question

julrichhjulrichh Member Posts: 100
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i hope theres gonna be some good rules for pvp.....would kinda suck to have lvl 40's runnin around in new gardens killing new players....dont get me wrong...pvp is cool.....but thanks to the mindless woders of 14 year olds who dont like a challenge if theres no controll over it beacomes a newbie frag fest to these morons

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  • AkibanaAkibana Member Posts: 107

    I believe there will be a limit,even though I do prefer things to be free and allow anything to happen between high and low levels. I'm pretty sure that things will be interesting PvP-wise in RF so let's sit back and wait to c....

  • julrichhjulrichh Member Posts: 100

    i like it open and free yes.......but unfortunetly in that setting youll have some bored lvl 50's who do nothing but hunt new players who pose no challenge or dont stand a chance. And no higher lvl player wants to stand watch over new players, so there has to be some limits

  • DakkanonDakkanon Member Posts: 289

    well, having players setting grief will happen. This I do promise on every server.

    My advice to you is; never travel alone. Always hunt in groups, and keep your friendships between your fraction the best as possible.

    Say you're a lvl 20, and a lvl 40 shows up picking off lowbies.  The benefit to that lvl40 is getting only a couple of points per kill. Should you and a couple friends around your level decide to team up against this lvl40, and should you kill him, you would get some serious status and that lvl 40 would lose a massive amount.

    Keep tabs on all the key players of your race. befreind them. And enjoy the game

    -Dakkanon
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  • lazerbeardlazerbeard Member Posts: 53

    having played WoW, I have to say, that solution rarely works. I have no idea what some people do with their lives to waste three hours on something that is ultimately useless and not really that fun, but I have seen a high level (50-60) dude come into a low level (15-20) area and decimate the area, when we came back with reinforcements.... so did he, and though the community is good, a lot of the time it isnt enough to keep everyone safe, which is completely understandable. I hope what they can come up with some better rules of engagement for this game. It would rule so hard if when you died you could radio into HQ and NPCs will come to rescue you and it would pop up as a hotspot for enemy activity.

    This would help in two reguards

    (1. It would reduce ganking, or at least making it more of a fair fight by alerting everyone with accurate info, rather than a random world defense message saying ZOMG I JUST GOT GANKZORZED

    (2. A lot of the time its rather hard to start or find a random skirmish between enemy forces, and random PvP events can be a lot of fun if more people start showing up, if there was a map showing hot spots on the map, people would have more of a chance to go there, and bigass battles would be able to happen more often, which might be cool. It also has sort of the effect that youre actually fighting as part of a military force, which is cooperative with all its units

  • noname12345noname12345 Member Posts: 2,267

    Pffft anyone who wants "Safe zones" are carebears! This is a war people, it should be a free environment. I don't think enemies talk to each other and say "I won't touch your n00bs if you don't touch mine". Enemies should go after the n00bs so they delay the advancement of the enemy...its called strategy!

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  • xxP3NGUINxxxxP3NGUINxx Member Posts: 5

    AMEN, AlexAmoreimage...if you don't like it, go find a pansy safe zone game

    "I was the one who ate paint chips as a kid"

  • julrichhjulrichh Member Posts: 100

    ah....a good case in point, Everquest....pvp servers...greart servers exept when youd have a lvl 50 camped next to a soulbinder killing people as they spawned....over and over and over......poor people couldnt even get loaded beafore they were dead. got so bad so many people left the servers that sony had to step in.

    While i like pvp and think it adds dimension to the game you do have snot nosed little punks who have no other life other then to find ways to cheat the system and find ways to do nothing more then pisz people off.
    these people are the reasons certain rules need to be put into place.
    there is one rule i do think would help....and thats that you cant initiate combat with someone 10 lvls below you. that way it stops the little retards from noob campin. I know for a fact games go under beacuse they cant get new people to join beacuse of these smacktards. And I for one have ben looking forward to this game for so long that i dont want to see it ruined

  • NierroNierro Member UncommonPosts: 1,755

    Originally posted by julrichh
    i hope theres gonna be some good rules for pvp.....would kinda suck to have lvl 40's runnin around in new gardens killing new players....dont get me wrong...pvp is cool.....but thanks to the mindless woders of 14 year olds who dont like a challenge if theres no controll over it beacomes a newbie frag fest to these morons

    I hate when people generalize by age groups.::::26:: Heh, I'm 14 and I like challenge just as much as anyone else.

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  • xxP3NGUINxxxxP3NGUINxx Member Posts: 5


    Originally posted by julrichh

    ah....a good case in point, Everquest....pvp servers...greart servers exept when youd have a lvl 50 camped next to a soulbinder killing people as they spawned....over and over and over......poor people couldnt even get loaded beafore they were dead. got so bad so many people left the servers that sony had to step in.
    While i like pvp and think it adds dimension to the game you do have snot nosed little punks who have no other life other then to find ways to cheat the system and find ways to do nothing more then pisz people off.
    these people are the reasons certain rules need to be put into place.
    there is one rule i do think would help....and thats that you cant initiate combat with someone 10 lvls below you. that way it stops the little retards from noob campin. I know for a fact games go under beacuse they cant get new people to join beacuse of these smacktards. And I for one have ben looking forward to this game for so long that i dont want to see it ruined


    There is a technical limit to actual destroying the chips at 25(destroying the chips is how you win access to the core mine) but any level can participate in PvP.  But, the main ideas on PvP in this game is based on a War level scale, not 1 on 1 combat, but using team work to acheive the greater goal.

    So, you may have am lvl 50 romping around, annihalting level 30s one by oneimage, but if you get a group, its entirely possible, as hard as it seems, to overcome that one amazing enemyimage.  

    Also, there shouldn't be a big problem on spawn camping because that isn't the object, and you don't gain exp from killing other players.


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  • lazerbeardlazerbeard Member Posts: 53

    Im not suggesting that the game makes it impossible to kill people as you please, just that doing so may have reprocussions, like in real life. I am simply suggesting that lowbies get a better chance to have an even fight.

  • lazerbeardlazerbeard Member Posts: 53

    Originally posted by xxP3NGUINxx
    Originally posted by julrichh
    ah....a good case in point, Everquest....pvp servers...greart servers exept when youd have a lvl 50 camped next to a soulbinder killing people as they spawned....over and over and over......poor people couldnt even get loaded beafore they were dead. got so bad so many people left the servers that sony had to step in.
    While i like pvp and think it adds dimension to the game you do have snot nosed little punks who have no other life other then to find ways to cheat the system and find ways to do nothing more then pisz people off.these people are the reasons certain rules need to be put into place.there is one rule i do think would help....and thats that you cant initiate combat with someone 10 lvls below you. that way it stops the little retards from noob campin. I know for a fact games go under beacuse they cant get new people to join beacuse of these smacktards. And I for one have ben looking forward to this game for so long that i dont want to see it ruinedThere is a technical limit to actual destroying the chips at 25(destroying the chips is how you win access to the core mine) but any level can participate in PvP. But, the main ideas on PvP in this game is based on a War level scale, not 1 on 1 combat, but using team work to acheive the greater goal.
    So, you may have am lvl 50 romping around, annihalting level 30s one by oneimage, but if you get a group, its entirely possible, as hard as it seems, to overcome that one amazing enemyimage.
    Also, there shouldn't be a big problem on spawn camping because that isn't the object, and you don't gain exp from killing other players.


    Simply not true. If the difference between power from lvl to lvl is as great as it was in WoW, max level characters can just rape low levels all day, just two of them can easily shut down an entire area, and it takes a highly organized (rare) raid of about 20 to shut them down. Sure you can call in your own max level friends.... if you have any.... and they're on..... and they arent doing something that is actually challenging and interesting to high levels.

    Trust me, once you get corpse camped for an hour and a half straight, when you have an hour and a half to play, you'll understand

  • darquenbladedarquenblade Member Posts: 1,015
    I read on another board that they were going to implement same-race PvP in a future update to the game. Has anyone else heard this from any other sources?
  • xxP3NGUINxxxxP3NGUINxx Member Posts: 5


    Originally posted by darquenblade
    I read on another board that they were going to implement same-race PvP in a future update to the game. Has anyone else heard this from any other sources?

    I'm not sure on it, but i'm pretty sure that they're gonna keep PvP between different races.  Though, with me, you can't always trust what i say.  Same race PvP, like dueling in WoW is probably going to be saved when they either reach a climax intrest or an extremely low pointimage(let us hope that that day never comes) in intrest.  (WoW didn't get as popular as it did in a day.)

    "I was the one who ate paint chips as a kid"

  • TinybinaTinybina Member Posts: 2,130


    Originally posted by lazerbeard




    Simply not true. If the difference between power from lvl to lvl is as great as it was in WoW, max level characters can just rape low levels all day, just two of them can easily shut down an entire area, and it takes a highly organized (rare) raid of about 20 to shut them down. Sure you can call in your own max level friends.... if you have any.... and they're on..... and they arent doing something that is actually challenging and interesting to high levels.
    Trust me, once you get corpse camped for an hour and a half straight, when you have an hour and a half to play, you'll understand

    heh yeah no doubt I still remember teh time in beta 21 of us lvl 15'-20's decided to raid Astranaar (spelling).. We were all hype running down the trail to the Alliance city when a lvl 52 Warrior pops up in front of us.. He stopped looked at us, we looked at him, he looked at us backed up a few feet , we  moved forward and charged him.. He promplty pops off his horse and beat All but a few of us (the ones that finally ran) down to a pulp... Thats 21 to 1 and we got destroyed lmfao, that was some funny stuff though, we tried are best heh.

    Anyways im with you Im not a carebear by any stretch of the imagination, I LOVE TO PVP.. But rules need to be set, sadly most games dont do this. Time will tell if RF will I guess, if not then payback is _________ thats all I got to say. I know that doesnt help but atleast it will make me feel better.

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