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Has anyone experience with playing MMOs and games on 3d / 120 hz Monitors?

ElikalElikal Member UncommonPosts: 7,912

I am still looking for a new monitor. And recently I thought, what about those 120 Hz Monitors and the NVidia Shutter glasses? Or whatever glasses there are.

(PLEASE don't start an Oculus Rift debate here. ^^)

I'd like to know if anyone has such Monitor and glasses for MMOs, games and maybe movies for the PC and has insights and exieperiences to share?

 

Thanks.

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  • zalatoyzalatoy Member UncommonPosts: 65
    iTS  cool for like 5 min then your eyes start to hurt and you go back to  2d.
  • mindw0rkmindw0rk Member UncommonPosts: 1,356

    Ive been playing in 3D for 1.5 years. Have Asus VG278H with 3D Vision 2 glasses. MMORPGs isnt the best genre for this. The only ones that I would play in 3D are The Secret World, Guild Wars 2 and Age of Wulin. Those are top 3 for me. In others effect just doesnt give enough or 3D is totally broken.

    Singleplayer games is entirely different matter. Games like Tomb Raider 2013, Trine 2, Batman: Arkham City, Metro 2033, Skyrim will blow your mind. Its day and night difference compared to 2D gaming. But you have to fix 3D in some games with Helix patch: http://helixmod.blogspot.ru/2013/07/game-list-full.html

    Also check my other topic about quality of 3D in MMOs: https://forums.geforce.com/default/topic/523077/3d-in-mmorpgs-my-ratings/

  • NevulusNevulus Member UncommonPosts: 1,288

    GW2, WoW, and EQ2. Those are the mmos I've played in 3d, with GW2 being the better one considering it doesnt give me a headache after an hour. The game was extremely optimized for 3d and looks amazing.

     

    I use an Alienware 17 inch laptop with Nvidia 3d Vision 2.

  • donpopukidonpopuki Member Posts: 591
    GW2 is built with 3d in mind because the of the UI. Games built without 3d in mind the UI can reek havoc and cause disorientation,nausea, and headaches. Plus some games will have glitchy effects when you turn on the 3d, shadows don't render in the right place and general flashing. Sometimes it just doesn't work period. I think as time goes on more games will be built with 3d in mind.
  • mindw0rkmindw0rk Member UncommonPosts: 1,356
    Originally posted by donpopuki
    GW2 is built with 3d in mind because the of the UI. .

    Its UI is nothing special. Devs didnt give a crap about 3D. Its just that some games work out better for 3D then others.

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,503

    Are you planning on using the monitor for the sake of stereoscopic 3D, or are you planning on using it for the sake of the 120 Hz refresh rate?

    You should be warned that stereoscopic 3D implementations that alternate images between eyes quickly mean that the monitor image has to change very fast--something that panel types with higher display quality simply can't do.  If you're not bothered by the poor color quality of cheap monitors, that's fine, but you should be aware of it.

    You should also be aware that the need for a very high frame rate means a need for a lot of monitor cable bandwidth, and that restricts what resolutions and cable types you can get.  That's manageable, but is the reason why, as far as I'm aware, there aren't any monitors above 1080p that support stereoscopic 3D.

  • DawgdocDawgdoc Member UncommonPosts: 41

    2 totally different things you are asking. 3D and 120hz. They often go hand 'n' hand, but not always.

    I have extensive experience playing MMOs and a variety of other video games at 120hz. The difference is STAGGERING in my opinion. For more information about 120hz than you ever cared to think about check here: http://120hz.net/

    3d I have no experience with. Seems like a gimmick to me and I cant see myself doing it unless a game is specifically 3d.

  • asmkm22asmkm22 Member Posts: 1,788
    Originally posted by Quizzical

    Are you planning on using the monitor for the sake of stereoscopic 3D, or are you planning on using it for the sake of the 120 Hz refresh rate?

    You should be warned that stereoscopic 3D implementations that alternate images between eyes quickly mean that the monitor image has to change very fast--something that panel types with higher display quality simply can't do.  If you're not bothered by the poor color quality of cheap monitors, that's fine, but you should be aware of it.

    You should also be aware that the need for a very high frame rate means a need for a lot of monitor cable bandwidth, and that restricts what resolutions and cable types you can get.  That's manageable, but is the reason why, as far as I'm aware, there aren't any monitors above 1080p that support stereoscopic 3D.

    Displayport can handle 4k 3d at 120h I believe.  

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  • jazz.bejazz.be Member UncommonPosts: 962

    I really don't like it how they make scenes in movies just for the 3D effects. To me the 3D needs to be a natural thing.

    Many times in movies you see 3D effect scenes which are really made just to give the viewer a 3D kick.

    How have they been doing it in games? It's been a while that I wanted to try it out. But I wanted to wait until it becomes a working standard, not a half working feature.

  • KenFisherKenFisher Member UncommonPosts: 5,035

    I did back when everything was CRT, ultra fast refresh monitor and LCD shutter glasses.

     

    It wasn't like seeing 3D in first person (I was playing FPS at the time).  It was like sitting in front of a fixed window looking out into 3D space.

     

    Honestly the strongest effects were I got a headache and nausea.  For what cost me a grand or so to setup, it was a waste of cash.  The monitor was really nice at high refresh in 2D.

     


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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,503
    Originally posted by asmkm22
    Originally posted by Quizzical

    Are you planning on using the monitor for the sake of stereoscopic 3D, or are you planning on using it for the sake of the 120 Hz refresh rate?

    You should be warned that stereoscopic 3D implementations that alternate images between eyes quickly mean that the monitor image has to change very fast--something that panel types with higher display quality simply can't do.  If you're not bothered by the poor color quality of cheap monitors, that's fine, but you should be aware of it.

    You should also be aware that the need for a very high frame rate means a need for a lot of monitor cable bandwidth, and that restricts what resolutions and cable types you can get.  That's manageable, but is the reason why, as far as I'm aware, there aren't any monitors above 1080p that support stereoscopic 3D.

    Displayport can handle 4k 3d at 120h I believe.  

    No, it can't.  DisplayPort just recently got enough bandwidth to do 4K at 60 Hz, even.  The bandwidth is theoretically there to allow 2560x1600 at 120 Hz, though I'm not aware of any monitors that can do that yet.  And even with a monitor, most video cards still can't output it.

  • asmkm22asmkm22 Member Posts: 1,788
    Originally posted by Quizzical
    Originally posted by asmkm22
    Originally posted by Quizzical

    Are you planning on using the monitor for the sake of stereoscopic 3D, or are you planning on using it for the sake of the 120 Hz refresh rate?

    You should be warned that stereoscopic 3D implementations that alternate images between eyes quickly mean that the monitor image has to change very fast--something that panel types with higher display quality simply can't do.  If you're not bothered by the poor color quality of cheap monitors, that's fine, but you should be aware of it.

    You should also be aware that the need for a very high frame rate means a need for a lot of monitor cable bandwidth, and that restricts what resolutions and cable types you can get.  That's manageable, but is the reason why, as far as I'm aware, there aren't any monitors above 1080p that support stereoscopic 3D.

    Displayport can handle 4k 3d at 120h I believe.  

    No, it can't.  DisplayPort just recently got enough bandwidth to do 4K at 60 Hz, even.  The bandwidth is theoretically there to allow 2560x1600 at 120 Hz, though I'm not aware of any monitors that can do that yet.  And even with a monitor, most video cards still can't output it.

    I just re-read their press release from earlier this year, and it looks like I misread it the first time.

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  • mcrippinsmcrippins Member RarePosts: 1,642

    I have this monitor and absolutely love it.

     

    http://www.samsung.com/ae/consumer/computers-peripherals/monitors/led/LS27A950DS/ZN

     

    Now I haven't tried to play games in 3D yet, but movies look amazing. I bought it when it first came out in 2011. So i'm sure the price has dropped quite a bit as well.

  • donpopukidonpopuki Member Posts: 591

    Whatever you do, do NOT buy a 120hz or higher TV thinking you'll be able to do 3d with NVIDIA 3d. All TVs don't have 120hz inputs. Even if it's a 3d TV it won't work. I have a 60" 120 hz LED TV and all it can take in is a 1080p 60hz signal. So why is it 120hz? It's all about the interpolation of frames which can produce the familar soapopra effect. In essence the TV is filling and computing extra data between frames to produce a smoother picture.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_dE6HPIAJM

    TLDR: Only buy a 120hz computer monitor if you are going to take the 3d plunge.

  • AppokAppok Member Posts: 20
    I have the Benq 2720lt 3d monitor but i didnt get it for the 3d capability i got it for the 120hz and the colours. And i notice the difference between 60 and 120hz and i paid $399 CDN for this and its reg 699 and i had it for about a month and a bit.
  • neurojameneurojame Member Posts: 26

    I don't agree with Donpopuki above. Ive got the NVidia glasses with a mitsubishi big screen going and its great!

    The trick is that not all 120 hz TVs will work. The ones listed by NVIDIA were true 120 hz TVs that worked well with the system.

    I love it for the MMOs. LOTRO has great scenery, GW2 works well but I have to do 1 or 2 extra steps for that game before launching it. I don't have to do it for other games though. Skyrim is really good as well. The only things that get screwed up are the shadows in some games are at the wrong depth. GW 2 frames per second slows a little in 3D but nothing drastic. You might have to turn up the brightness of the TV but again this is minor.

    I dont get headaches from it and it really adds alot when you are looking out over vast vistas. I'm always in 3D when I'm exploring.

  • donpopukidonpopuki Member Posts: 591
    Originally posted by neurojame

    I don't agree with Donpopuki above. Ive got the NVidia glasses with a mitsubishi big screen going and its great!

    The trick is that not all 120 hz TVs will work. The ones listed by NVIDIA were true 120 hz TVs that worked well with the system.

    I love it for the MMOs. LOTRO has great scenery, GW2 works well but I have to do 1 or 2 extra steps for that game before launching it. I don't have to do it for other games though. Skyrim is really good as well. The only things that get screwed up are the shadows in some games are at the wrong depth. GW 2 frames per second slows a little in 3D but nothing drastic. You might have to turn up the brightness of the TV but again this is minor.

    I dont get headaches from it and it really adds alot when you are looking out over vast vistas. I'm always in 3D when I'm exploring.

    Does it have the ability to change channels? Not inputs mind you but channels going from 1 to 60 plus. If it has channels then it's a TV. To my knowledge TVs don't take in signals higher than 60hz.

  • mindw0rkmindw0rk Member UncommonPosts: 1,356
    Originally posted by jazz.be

    I really don't like it how they make scenes in movies just for the 3D effects. To me the 3D needs to be a natural thing.

    Many times in movies you see 3D effect scenes which are really made just to give the viewer a 3D kick.

    How have they been doing it in games? It's been a while that I wanted to try it out. But I wanted to wait until it becomes a working standard, not a half working feature.

    Great 3D is not when you see those cheap pop out effects. Its when you feel you're inside the scene.

    Although there are some really good 3D movies (mostly iMAX documentaries and Pixar works), games are much much more impressive. 3D not only takes you from your chair and puts you inside the world you're playing, it also gives scale. Everything suddenly becomes bigger and more real. Its hard to explain, its one of those things you have to see.

    3D Vision though is dying tech. The future lies upon Oculus Rift and other VR devices.

     

    Originally posted by neurojame

    I love it for the MMOs. LOTRO has great scenery, GW2 works well but I have to do 1 or 2 extra steps for that game before launching it. I don't have to do it for other games though. Skyrim is really good as well. The only things that get screwed up are the shadows in some games are at the wrong depth. GW 2 frames per second slows a little in 3D but nothing drastic. 

    I recommend downloading patches from here: http://helixmod.blogspot.ru/2013/07/game-list-full.html

    Many problematic games are fixed, making 3D there perfect

  • tom_goretom_gore Member UncommonPosts: 2,001
    Originally posted by zalatoy
    iTS  cool for like 5 min then your eyes start to hurt and you go back to  2d.

    This

  • mindw0rkmindw0rk Member UncommonPosts: 1,356
    Originally posted by tom_gore
    Originally posted by zalatoy
    iTS  cool for like 5 min then your eyes start to hurt and you go back to  2d.

    This

    It all depends on person. I can play in 3D for hours without any discomfort. But I spend most of my time near computer

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