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Could this cheap laptop run games such as left 4 dead2 , skyrim and several other modern games witho

SararielSarariel Member UncommonPosts: 301
in Hardware

http://www.pcworld.co.uk/gbuk/laptops-netbooks/laptops/laptops/toshiba-c50d-a-13g-15-6-laptop-21731465-pdt.html

Sorry if it's inappropriate to ask this here, I just don't know of any other forums to look at for advice with things like this.

 

I'll be spending quite a lot of time out of the house and I'm just curious if this laptop will be able to run games with decent frame rates.

 

 

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Or would this be a lot better? http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/refurbished-laptops/hp-envy-m6-1232ea-refurbished-15-laptop-black-21468338-pdt.html

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  • AuzyAuzy Member UncommonPosts: 611
    I like the second option with the i5 and the 7670 way more.  Of course you get what you pay for and a little beefier option would be great for long term gaming.

    Uhh... what?
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  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,531

    The first is Kaveri, which is basically a higher clocked version of AMD's tablet/ultraportable chip.  Most games will be playable, but that's not what you want for gaming.

    The second is used, so you might just be buying someone else's problems.  If you'd rather have a new laptop for gaming on a severe budget, you could try one of these:

    http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-g505s-15-6-laptop-21707558-pdt.html

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-15-6-inch-Quad-Core-Processor-DDR3_SDRAM/dp/B009ZQLKE0/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1386467568&sr=8-3

    For either of them, you'd probably want to fix the memory configuration yourself.  I don't know if the first laptop gives you two 2 GB memory modules or one 4 GB module; if the latter, then it's leaving a memory channel vacant, so you'd want to add your own 4 GB module.  The second mismatches the memory channels, so you'd want to buy your own 4 GB memory module, pull out the 2 GB module in the laptop, and replace it with your own 4 GB module.

  • SararielSarariel Member UncommonPosts: 301

    What GPU comes with the first laptop you linked?

    It looks quite good, I was looking at it earlier on.

     

    Hearing good things about the second one that I linked in forums and such, I might ask to look at it and see more into what the quality of it is like due to it being refurbished, if it's just been a screen replacement then I might just go with that one.

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,531

    They both use Radeon HD 7640G integrated graphics, not a discrete video card.  That avoids both the poor battery life of leaving a discrete video card on all of the time, and also the driver problems of discrete switchable graphics.

    It has four SIMD engines, so it's a decently capable chip as integrated graphics goes.  For comparison, the Radeon HD 7670M discrete card has 6, while the Radeon HD 8400 in the other laptop you were looking at has two CUs.

  • SararielSarariel Member UncommonPosts: 301
    Thanks Quizz c:
  • NobleNerdNobleNerd Member UncommonPosts: 759
    Speaking personally from someone who has played games on his laptop for a while now..... get a laptop that is specifically designed for gaming. Som may say they can play games, but one of the biggest downfalls to laptops and gaming is HEAT. If the laptop is not designed to handle the extra heat gaming produces then you will be a sad camper. I bought an external cooling system for my laptop and modified the casing to allow for more ventilation because the laptop I bought had poor design.


  • SmikisSmikis Member UncommonPosts: 1,045
    buy a laptop that will play current gen games, not games that were released 3 years ago, you will regret being cheapskate saving money when you cant play games released in next few months, best investment if you are short on money for computer, is to spend some more so you dont have to upgrade for 3-4 years
  • zastenzasten Member Posts: 283

    Do not go anywhere near HP crap!

    HP gear is designed to fail shortly after the warranty run out!

  • SararielSarariel Member UncommonPosts: 301

    I think I'd be better getting the http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/refurbished-laptops/hp-envy-m6-1232ea-refurbished-15-laptop-black-21468338-pdt.html

    The GPU sounds pretty decent in it

     

    I'm deciding between that and http://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-g505s-15-6-laptop-21707558-pdt.html the one quizz linked

  • QuizzicalQuizzical Member LegendaryPosts: 25,531
    Originally posted by NobleNerd
    Speaking personally from someone who has played games on his laptop for a while now..... get a laptop that is specifically designed for gaming. Som may say they can play games, but one of the biggest downfalls to laptops and gaming is HEAT. If the laptop is not designed to handle the extra heat gaming produces then you will be a sad camper. I bought an external cooling system for my laptop and modified the casing to allow for more ventilation because the laptop I bought had poor design.

    You know what's better than being able to dissipate a lot of heat?  Not needing to.  That's why I tend to favor gaming on integrated graphics more than most people do.  If you have a 35 W CPU and a 35 W video card and you push both at once, you could conceivably get 70 W from those two parts.  If you have a 35 W chip that contains both your CPU and your GPU, then your CPU+GPU heat output is capped at a more laptop-friendly 35 W.

    You do give up some performance for that, however.  Still, it's not nearly as bad as cutting your performance in half.  Not needing separate video memory or to pass a ton of stuff back and forth over a PCI Express bus eliminates some power use entirely.  Lower clock speeds also allow lower voltages, so that you can get maybe 2/3 of the performance in 1/2 of the power.

    Even so, I expect AMD's upcoming Kaveri chip (launching in January) to be a major advance in gaming on integrated graphics.  The integrated graphics there will basically be a lower clocked version of a Radeon HD 7750 with DDR3 memory.  The desktop version won't have to reduce the clock speed by all that much, either, though the laptop version will to keep the power consumption laptop-friendly.

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