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ESO's failure predicted - your thoughts
NobleNerd
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Below is a link to a Forbes article predicting ESO's demise. Before polling and posting your thoughts read the article through. This was in another thread I read here, so I wanted to give people a simple yes or no poll to see where the population of gamers are on this matter.
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http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/6120535/Forbes-Predicting-Biggest-Disaster-of-2014.html
Long thread on it above.
This looks like a situation where a moderator needs to come by and consolidate posts. There are so many versions of this exact subject already, why not just post on an already existing one?
Just to question the philosophy. Army of Socrates.
You know, I don't much particularly care anymore about what it means for these games to fail. All i know is I'm tired of playing the same damn game over and over and over again since i was a teenager.
I am tired of great ideas being converted into generic shit to spoon feed the masses.
EDIT: Things NOT to say when you want people to believe what you're talking about
" even though I’m not normally a big PC MMO guy"
Did you read the article? The author covers your questions.
I gave you my reason. I wanted to add a poll to see where people stand.
From the previous thread it came across as if many people didn't and kept using the terms subjectively. So just to get it clear.
Failure to us players but success to the dev and publisher.
Name one recent MMO that DIDN'T fail? I can bet right now that any you list will have failed to someone.
IMO, it will fail like GW2 failed.
I'll be playing it though.
mmorpg.com, the 4chan of mmo forums.
Failure , very simply put , for everyone to understand :
Commercial product failing to break even
Let me state it clearly... I am not trying to slander ESO. I am a fan of all that is Elderscrolls. My intent with this post is to have a simple poll with constructive comments based off someone elses "slander". I personally do not think ESO will fail. I have played all the betas and enjoyed seeing the progress of the game.
That article reads as if it was written by someone here in MMORPG's forums. Take that however you want.
It sounds like the point he's making is that SWTOR was a "failure". Gamers seem to be redefining the term "failure" to now contain many levels of granularity.
Before we can determine if anything is a failure, we must understand what the intended goal was. If we do not, than we are only judging something from our own perspective; our own idea of what we think the goal was. Not a very objective approach to say the least.
So we're just left with the "guessing game" when it comes time to pass judgment on a game that isn't even live yet. I guess that's what we do around here.
So my guess? I might as well just use history as a lesson (history through my own eyes, naturally. No use trying to even make up stats or numbers to support any claims, right?). So... TESO will launch. Some will love it as the second coming, others will hate it and/or claim that "if only the devs had listened to me in beta, there would be *insert problem here*". Game rolls on, adjusts it's payment structures as needed and coasts along for years to come.
Pretty much like every other MMO that is based on an existing IP.
But meanwhile, here we'll be... talking about how the next big MMO on the horizon will fail.
Meh, I dunno man. The failure of most every MMO is predicted on this site, or of many games on other sites.
I think its not really going to be a mega hit, but its not gonna be the titanic either. Its just going to be really popular during launch. Then it's popularity will taper off as the newness of it goes away.
But I feel like its going to retain a decent player base for a good while.
Hence why it's a totally biased view and worth diddly squat.
Apparently there are a lot of "Failed" MMO's currently in the market place right now, you all know the ones because they continually get dragged out of the cupboard to be paraded around as the complete and utter failures they are, by someone who has just been hacked off by whatever game they happen to have lurched to after losing interest in there favourite game.
Yet I still see those abject failures hosting active servers, with regular patches and shock horror even expansions, how dare they add more content to a failed game, don't they realise someone said on a forum that their game has failed?
With that in mind I'll give the author of the article the 2 fingered salute and tell him this, you wouldn't know a good MMO if it bit you on the arse.
Going by the objective definition the game will be a success.
Paul Tassi contended that because the game is launching as P2P that it is doomed because "the monthly subscription model is dead."
So it will fail to hold on the subscription numbers, going the same route as SWTOR and many before it.
Even if the game fails to hold a P2P status, opting to go F2P it might do a SWTOR and survive thanks to it, becoming profitable.
Failure? Warhammer was a failure. That's my view of things. It shut down...how much more objective can one get whether a product failed or succeeded?
I personaly don't think game will fail.
TES series sold way more on consoles than it did on PC. Skyrim alone was 86% of its sales on consoles with 14% on PC.
What people don't understand that ESO's failure would have to mean it never launches. You don't kind of fail a test, you either do or do not. so if ESO launches, that's a success. Whether people play it is something totally misconstrued with the developing and launching of a mmorpg.