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Will Landmark replace EQ Next?
adamch29
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With all the emphasis that SOE has put on Landmark it makes me think that they are putting off EQ Next. At the very least Landmark may push back release of EQ Next by months if not years. I may just be paranoid or uninformed. Thoughts?
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I don't think so. It's more likely EQ Next will draw a lot of people away from Landmark. Much of Landmark's tech is going to be used in EQ Next, so it shouldn't delay development that much and will generate revenue (and even content considering the tools) for EQ Next. We're probably looking at each game having a mostly different development team also so if anything the content created from Landmark could very well speed up EQ Next's development.
Exactly. I was watching a recent video demonstrating Landmark and one of the guys said "These are the tools we are going to use to make EQ Next". I assumed that they had already started developing the game.
We have already seen in game footage for EQN, its being made already. Im sure its far from done though.
im worried they will deliver 2 mediocre and unfinished products instead of one excelent fully featured product.
I really hope i am horribly wrong.
EQN Landmark is the test bed for art for EQN...in that I mean, they are waiting to see what the community builds in Landmark that they can then use in EQN. They are hoping that the devs won't have to waste art time building objects because they hope the community will do that for them in Landmark. If all they get from Landmark are penis shaped obelisks then I bet EQN will take a long time to release.
Art is what takes a long time in an MMO, and SONY is trying to leech off the community via Landmark...that is the reason they are releasing it with dev tools...it's about trying to save them money and time building the art for their next game (s).
From reading a lot of posts on different forums. I get the gist that a lot of people do not know what landmark is or why it is being made.
From what I have read and using my logic, Landmark is a game of exploring and creating. You are essentially doing Sony's work for them. They are allowing customers to create content for EQNEXT. You find a plot land, stake your claim, and build whatever you can imagine. Sony reviews everything and then implements it into EQ Next. You get paid. Landmark isn't replacing anything. It is allowing players to use the exact same tools the DEVs use to create structures and form zones. Both games will be working together to create a personalized experience.
This is just my understanding. I could be way off, but I doubt it.
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They have said Landmark will be an mmorpg in its own right. With combat, skills, and achievements. I am not sure what it will be like and frankly am havign a hard time wrapping my head around it since they are fselling its biggest element which will be the creation aspect. I am thinking its gonna be like minecraft but not as blocky of course. You will be able to play Landmark and only Landmark if you want.
Now for EQNext, I wouldn't be surprised certain creations from Landmark, if they are of quality will wind up permenant features in EQN. They have developed a very clever means of having player driven content screened and tested before any element winds up in a game.
Landmark is the systems test for EQN. SOE is trying out mechanics to see how players react prior to spending tons of time developing environments, quests, gear, story, etc. Given just how big of a change procedural content and story bricks could very well end up being if done right (a big if I admit) it's a very smart thing to do. The fact they can collect revenue while doing it probably doesn't hurt either.
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I like the sound of that and agree with your logic. I think the regular EQ Next game will be a 2015 release, unless like another post said, Landmark somehow spirs development on with EQN. They should be encouraged that on this site, EQN has held the first or second slot in most anticipated MMO for a while. It definately has the makings of a unique blend of crafting/exploring/adventuring. As for EQN:L it sounds like they plan to let people make full worlds and MMO type experiences for people to create and share. In one video they mentioned it being a sandbox for PNP D&D campains. That sounds fun. /roll 2d6!
SOE is intending Landmark to be every bit as big, if not bigger, than Everquest Next. Here's an excerpt from an interview with the head honcho...
RPS: Due to all of this, your version of EQN is just one of potentially thousands of worlds players can go inhabit under these systems.
Georgeson: Yep. Ours is just a professionally developed alternative.
RPS: If your version is totally overshadowed, will you be disappointed? What will you do if people play EverQuest Next and say, “Eh, this is kinda boring. I’m just going to stick to user-created worlds”?
Georgeson: It will only be because Landmark is a success, and I refuse to cry in my beer over that.
Landmark is definitely going to be used to help create Next, but Landmark is very much it's own thing. If ANYTHING... Next is actually just a part of landmark.
"Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils." - Louis Hector Berlioz
SOE isn't making Landmark to tie people over until EQNext, these are games with totally different focus. Yes, right now Landmark is mostly being talked about EQ-veterans, but SOE goal is to attract the Minecraft crowd to the game. It's a game for people who love building stuff and decorate not fight monsters and collect loot.
They are releasing Landmark because they saw an option to capitalize what they were doing for Next at a low cost.
Also, I believe that EQNext will release this year. SOE is planning lots of activities this year to celebrate Everquest because it's EQ1 15th anniversary and EQ2 10th anniversary.
I believe Landmark is the live test bed for the in-game dev tools being worked on. "In-game" being the prime word so, like the building tools seen already, we have the same capabilities within reason that SoE does when we are building in Landmark. This includes the same in-game mob and quest generation tools to be used in EQN.
So while I think we'll be seeing a mid 2015 release of EQN a lot can be worked on now and I'm sure is even if it's mapping out and storyboarding content. Once the tools get done executing what has been laid out may not take long.
As a builder I'm excited for Landmark but if I was only interested in EQN I'd be anxious as well.
I expect that near xmas in 2014 they will offer early access to EQN just like they did with EQL and we'll be looking at a mid 2015 release. That is based on a wild guess but it seems likely to me.
Interesting perspective. I suppose EQL/EQN can be seen as one game with two distinct parts. I wonder how integrated they will be software wise on the hardrive.
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