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Crowdfunding has given MMO zealots another reason to champion the "choosen" games.

ozmonoozmono Member UncommonPosts: 1,211

For as long as I've been around these forums, fans of certain games have been taking it upon themselves to champion their games of choice and often battle it out with people of different beliefs in flame wars. This game is good or better because of reasons A and B. Now with crowdfunding it seems like there is a greater cause for players to go door to door selling their beliefs in games because they often cannot be made without support of likeminded individuals. To a certain extent it was always true but now it seems to have multiplied in magnitude. There is nothing wrong with a non intrusive rundown on a game but so often it is more. Hell, sometimes it's even gotten to the stage developers have had to apologize for the intrusive and non relenting efforts of their fans.

 

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  • iridescenceiridescence Member UncommonPosts: 1,552

    I do find I'm  enthused about games I've backed and more likely to post defending them against the idiotic or misinformed. But I don't feel any need to bash other games or people because of this. It's kind of the same as being an underground music fan and having certain bands you push on your friends (admittedly probably sometimes to a slightly obnoxious degree) but being enthused and wanting to promote X does not necessitate needing to tear down Y or people who like Y. That's the difference between a fan and a fanboy.

     

  • ViperDragonViperDragon Member UncommonPosts: 101
    It's something that's impossible to police, really.  It's only natural that after spending your hard-earned cash on the development of a game, you feel motivated to ardently defend it; I know this from personal experience.  It's the people who take it too far that are the problem; which takes me back to my original point - hard, if not impossible, to police.

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  • FinalFikusFinalFikus Member Posts: 906

    Gamers used to have to make their own games. Turned into something pretty big I hear.

     You think a little marketing is over the top...for gamers?

    "If the Damned gave you a roadmap, then you'd know just where to go"

  • ozmonoozmono Member UncommonPosts: 1,211
    Originally posted by FinalFikus

    Gamers used to have to make their own games. Turned into something pretty big I hear.

     You think a little marketing is over the top...for gamers?

     

    When developers have to apologize for fans spamming on mass, than yeah, I think it's over the top. When fans spend their time engaged in childish borderline abusive behaviour directed at other gamers of a different persuasion than I think it's gone too far too. Is it not?

  • FinalFikusFinalFikus Member Posts: 906
    Originally posted by ozmono
    Originally posted by FinalFikus

    Gamers used to have to make their own games. Turned into something pretty big I hear.

     You think a little marketing is over the top...for gamers?

     

    When developers have to apologize for fans spamming on mass, than yeah, I think it's over the top. When fans spend their time engaged in childish borderline abusive behaviour directed at other gamers of a different persuasion than I think it's gone too far too. Is it not?

    It sounds horrible.

     

    "If the Damned gave you a roadmap, then you'd know just where to go"

  • nariusseldonnariusseldon Member EpicPosts: 27,775
    Originally posted by ViperDragon
    It's something that's impossible to police, really.  It's only natural that after spending your hard-earned cash on the development of a game, you feel motivated to ardently defend it; I know this from personal experience.  It's the people who take it too far that are the problem; which takes me back to my original point - hard, if not impossible, to police.

    Why should it be policed?

    It is not like i am obligated to read their opinion, or spend any money on KS. i am also not obligated not to air opposite opinions.

    It is not like game preferences are not highly subjective anyway.

  • XthosXthos Member UncommonPosts: 2,740

    So, people have been using a forum to voice their opinion/views.  These places would be pretty baren/boring if everyone said the same things and agreed on everything.

     

    Seems maybe you need to avoid the topics that are bothering you maybe?  I do not see why crowdfunded mmos should be any different than studio, non-crowdfunded mmos.  People have been having lively debates on ESO, and it is not crowdfunded.

     

    People will appologize for wearing the wrong color shirt, if people complain about it, so I would need more specifics on developers having to appologize for 'fans', then just your broad statement to judge it.

  • ozmonoozmono Member UncommonPosts: 1,211
    Originally posted by Xthos

    So, people have been using a forum to voice their opinion/views.  These places would be pretty baren/boring if everyone said the same things and agreed on everything.

     

    Seems maybe you need to avoid the topics that are bothering you maybe?  I do not see why crowdfunded mmos should be any different than studio, non-crowdfunded mmos.  People have been having lively debates on ESO, and it is not crowdfunded.

     

    People will appologize for wearing the wrong color shirt, if people complain about it, so I would need more specifics on developers having to appologize for 'fans', then just your broad statement to judge it.

    Firstly I do try to avoid topics that bother me, atleast I try not to get involved in the bickering. Over the years I think I have been slowly getting better at it. That's sort of besides the point though, I was just trying to make an observation. May not be correct but it seems that way to me.

     

    Secondly there is a difference between discussing something in a civil manner and engaging in what I referred to as flame wars. People don't need to agree to be civil either, they just need to refrain from insulting and belittling others for having different views. I'm not asking people to apologize for anything either but you'd be right for thinking I don't view the behaviour I refer to as good form.

     

    There is also a difference between defending a game and feeling the need to promote games, crowdfunding or even AAA games. This is a good example http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/post/6132408 . Third post the OP encourages people to fight against a perceived "hate campaign" by telling them to "get of their arses". As the second poster in this thread said aswell, to just defend a game doesn't mean you need to tear down other games or posters.

     

    As I said in the OP, as long as I've been around in these forums there have been people taking it to far, hell I'm not perfect either and that certainly isn't new to crowdfunding, I'm just making an observation that this idea of needing likeminded individuals to fund a game grants people a additional or atleast, increased cause for behaving in such a manner. Trying to force their opinions that is.

     

    As for the developers apologizing, well I guess I need to apologize. I thought I remembered an article I read in which developers had apologized for their fans spamming people (mass emailing if I remember correctly) but after a little look I couldn't find it. I still don't think I imaged it but I may have muddled some facts or got the wrong end of the stick somewhere. So I apologize for saying that.

     

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