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chaintm
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Sure I will get BIG TIME FLAMED, lol don't care this is for the guys out there looking for something to do and like starwars.
Let's just sum it up for yeah, lots to do, lots to see and you will have fun doing it, finally all the quest bugs are fixed so leveling is just following the story, nice new intro to the game as solo takes you step by step threw the basics and beyond. Basicly there will be "your wrong" "this game is doomed" after this post , but if you read this part, then trust me , do the free trial check it out, I love the changes myself, some I don't care much for but overall, it's a fun game now. Don't know what to say to the nay sayers as anything you say is wrong, so I won't even try to argue with them.
Just so you know there are many of us new and old who are enjoying the current build of the game since lucas arts came in and took over development (thou I wish they would have years ago :P ).. thats another story, but for those just curious, eh try the freebee download, I bet you will be hooked, as my current guild consist of 37 new players 
I also play planetside so eh, as evil as SOE is, I still like some of their products.
There are a ton of people here who say "this sucks" "in my class we agreed it terrible" but the fact remains that there are still allot of us there and more staying daily, as you know people who are upset about something will raise holy hell, those who are not rarly speak, so avoid all the "its great" "its bad" and do what everyone is knocking atm "try it out" it is better in my eyes.
"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"
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In the interest of civillity, I will only point out that line is utter B.S.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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In the interest of civillity, I will only point out that line is utter B.S.
Mustafar last night at 11pm EST on Chilastra:
Theed last night an hour later
Sure, it isn't game release populations but I would hardly call that dead and empty, although I'm sure there will be some that say it is
In the interest of civillity, I will only point out that line is utter B.S.
Mustafar last night at 11pm EST on Chilastra:
Theed last night an hour later
Sure, it isn't game release populations but I would hardly call that dead and empty, although I'm sure there will be some that say it is
Certainly not....
But you can't say that is a lot of people. That is two of the hottest places for quests and pvp, respectively. It's going to be busier at those places. Would you agree, though, that the hottest points in the game should have more than 20 people?
Those screenshots show me SWG is "dead and empty" when compared to its glory days.
NGE Refugee.
Hmm i used to play on chilastra a long time ago and it was never one of the most busy servers because it had server issues(talking like 18 months ago).
But out of curosity i will log into SWG tomorrow or tonight as i have all access for my EQ2 and PS.
Might take a while to load all those patches but i am very curious to see the population of the game and even maybe the changes.
I hear some say the game is empty while some say some areas so filled it lags horribly.I know later i suppose.
well even tho i hate the new system and think that the year worth of patches i downloaded just to do my free trial was time wasted... i have to agree with the OP. if you have a chance to try the game out at little to no cost then go for it. i'd recommend finding the more populated servers tho, as many are in fact very dead.
people shouldnt let the rants of people who feel they've been betrayed make their mind up on playing the nge. the game is nothing like it was and will probably never again be how we all want it to be, but it may be the type of game others do wanna play. (like the kiddies
)
again, not going to argue with the nay sayers on this post, but I will point out that you guys here are correct, the old days are gone were it was laggn so bad in say Theed it took you 2 min just to get threw it. However the above pics show exactly the way it is on most server all the time even during "prime time". Reason, new questing system, takes you all over the place, there is no need to sit in a spot and get groups to hunt mobs for instance. So everyone is spread out allot more.
Planets that use to have really no content now do, missions take you all over and the only real way to get xp in this game is threw missions. Sure you can kill mobs, but they changed the xp gain as it is in WoW. Good or bad is up to you to decided, I think it's for the better, takes out all the power gamers pretty much, thou one could powergame threw the missions with a higher level friend, but then all the new stories are actually good. I definitely enjoyed the new epic missions and the double xp over the holidays was nice. definitely love the graphic improvements, I don't know I like the game in it's newer design, my complaints are mostly what was taken away, I would like to see battleground type of "capture the base" happen for some good pvp and rewards to match it and I would like to see factional pets back, but eh, small things compared to the main game.
I do agree with entertainers, (as one of my toons is such) the having to have the mouse highlighted over something to constantly use it , stops me from playing my stationary items, kinda sucks, but they are working on that issue , so shall see. Overall I enjoy it, you guys don't and that's plainly obvious, but wish as hard as you can wish, blast away all you want, but the truth is, the game is again growing, I am seeing so myself, I am no fanbot, I play daoc, COV, planetside and more , time/money I got, so eh I just see what I see, talk to those I talk to and letting peps that want to know..
nope not dead, getting stronger from what I have seen and I am actually enjoying it, in the start when this all came down, I was like most, but I came back , tried it again and it actually took with me. I definitely love the rapid fire and dmg output of guns now, allot of planets are well balanced mob wise so exploring is very feasible at level 20 , heck even the crafter (which I have one of those as well) can walk around uber red mobs and don't get attacked. BTW, yes there are definitely issue with my crafting, but then again, while i wont be able to "Share" my mining with anyone anymore, I understand the reasoning behind it and basically conformed, eh reminds me of the first few months of the game , were everyone had to do their own thing to some degree.. No more mass account this and that, you actually have to play if you want to do stuff in the game now. Thou I never did get why people did such, other then to sell in game credits for money on ebay. funny, I bet those people are kicking themselves in the butt right now, oh well life goes on. after all, it's only a game.
"The monster created isn't by the company that makes the game, it's by the fans that make it something it never was"
And that's where you are wrong.
The pictures are LIGHT populations, especially for the two galaxy's hotspots. The Theed picture would be considered LIGHT pre-nge.
The server loads all show lighter loads. MUCH lighter loads. Pre-nge most were at LEAST medium, now they are light or very light. Even Bria rarely gets to heavy.
Enjoy the game all you want... but to say that the servers are full is just either ignorance or insanity.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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Just don't pick smuggler, trader, commando or entertainer as a profession. Ignore that quest 30-60 are all bugged. Ignore the fact that harvestors are not working since they "fixed" them.
Just create your jedi toon and stfu is this guys response to any other profession in game. Out of 9 "iconic" professions 4 of them are junk. This is the biggest joke of a video game I saidly have to admit I put anytime into. NGE might be a fine solution to this game ONE DAY. Right now it is a beta game in poor shape. NO ONE SHOULD PLAY THIS GAME FOR 3 MONTHS UNTIL IT IS FIXED.
Honest people dont recommend you pay to play a beta stage video game. They are only recommending it because its in their best interest.
Who's saying they're full? How do you know what a Light population is on Chilastra? Have you played extensively on the server before and know its traits? Sure, it's light compared to anything you would have seen pre-JTL but that was because everyone hit a stop point and had to wait 4-10mins for a shuttle to arrive at the starport.
All we're saying is that they ain't dead, people are playing and they're certainly busier then a few weeks ago.
Heh, how is that differen't from pre-cu? There were a number of professions back then that had broken specials (Pistoleer anyone?).
Well another person who logged in to see what the massive ranting is about.
1) 9pm GMT(think thats 4pm EST) bria is on very heavy load
2)no server on very light
3)only a few servers including chilastra on light .Rest on heavy or medium.
I honestly think while SWG died for me the day jedi wannabies managed to rant and cry their way into been released in floods into the game the game.
Maybe this is the same crowd now ranting like rabid dogs here?The baby got his candy and now its taken from them .back to crying it seems.
Trial is nothing like full game, buyer beware!SoE seem to be using this in their recent games i.e. the Isle Trial for EQ2. I suppose it is just because the games weigh in at about 2Gb and not me being cynical!
Is this serious? That is the response to 4 out of 9 professions being broke or non-functional? I understand that smugglers never "worked" in swg. I am aware of the pre-cu issues with the game. However, pre-cu was no where near this level of busted. I also would expect that a fix for the game be an actual fix and not a series of untested bug filled code that requires months of patching to fix.
I am frankly disgusted that this didn't earn swg more flak than anything else. They took a product with some flaws, turned it upside down and kept the same flaws. GCW still missing, smugglers dont smuggle, jedi dont have a point, traders now are screwed, entertainers are a waste class. I mean seriously how is this acceptable to anyone that is serious about games and mmo's?
I can understand and accept that the NGE is needed for the games survival. I expected it to work and contain the gcw. This version is unacceptable for leaving out the gcw and having more bugs then the previous game. I think everyone would have accepted the bugginess if the gcw was in this game.
Is this serious? That is the response to 4 out of 9 professions being broke or non-functional? I understand that smugglers never "worked" in swg. I am aware of the pre-cu issues with the game. However, pre-cu was no where near this level of busted. I also would expect that a fix for the game be an actual fix and not a series of untested bug filled code that requires months of patching to fix.
I am frankly disgusted that this didn't earn swg more flak than anything else. They took a product with some flaws, turned it upside down and kept the same flaws. GCW still missing, smugglers dont smuggle, jedi dont have a point, traders now are screwed, entertainers are a waste class. I mean seriously how is this acceptable to anyone that is serious about games and mmo's?
I can understand and accept that the NGE is needed for the games survival. I expected it to work and contain the gcw. This version is unacceptable for leaving out the gcw and having more bugs then the previous game. I think everyone would have accepted the bugginess if the gcw was in this game.
You consider them broken because they don't work the way you would like them to. The fact is though, in their current form they work just as described. Broken is not the right word for what you are trying to describe. Broken would be if their specials did not work, or something else didn't work as it is described. The only profession you could possibly call broken is Commando, as they can't use Heavy Weapons currently (at least not until Pub 27).
Well let me say this, I had 5 accounts on Chilastra, yes I am a Veteran from that server.
Before Chilastra Server everything was Bria. When they released the game to the public
in 2003, it took me 2 days to get on the game since Chilastra kept crashing.
Stuck with server since day one, grinded 28 professions to unlock Jedi which took me almost
a year to achieve thru holo professions. Unlocked Jedi slot pre-publish 9. So I have been
faithful to that server all this time.
What I am getting at here is that, during its glory days, Chilastra was a happening server,
we would war agaist the Bria server players and yadda yadda yadda.
If you think Chilastra is bustling with peeps, apparently you wasnt around when it kicked ass.
That server is DEAD compared what it used to be. So if you think that server is jammed pack
with peeps, well its unfortunate you never got to see it during its prime. If you ever played
WoW and been in Ironforge or Ogrimmar, I hate to say it, since I am not really a fantasy buff,
but thats what it used to look like in the SWG Starport and outside the Starport.
My last account just expired 5 days ago and all I can say is thank god I am not doing another
1 year renewal.
Harvestors are broke. Loot is better then anything crafted and frankly weapons are meaningless as it is all level related now.
What buff does entertainers provide now?
Hey you admit commando doesn't work alright.
SMUGGLERS DO NOT SMUGGLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How can you say these 4 professions are not broken and busted?
I would argue the entire combat engine doesn't work but that would be to much for you to accept. Until collision detection is added combat is broken. The lag is out rageous still. I mean come on. Its a game. Why is there is support for this game? Look at it? Its a freaking mess. Who develops games this way?
Oh wait.. EA sports. I am about to fly to that company and pound on them. There pc version ctd more then swg does. I was actually impressed they could out do soe.
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When I was playing if I ever saw Theed that empty, even in the middle of a weekday, I'd have been cancelling due to the lack of players. Remember what the first letter of MMORPG is supposed to be? Those screen shots don't qualify, I can find more people on an old Team Fortress Classic server, and not have to pay $15/month to do so. Dead and empty are exactly what those screen shots are in the context of an MMO.
When I was playing if I ever saw Theed that empty, even in the middle of a weekday, I'd have been cancelling due to the lack of players. Remember what the first letter of MMORPG is supposed to be? Those screen shots don't qualify, I can find more people on an old Team Fortress Classic server, and not have to pay $15/month to do so. Dead and empty are exactly what those screen shots are in the context of an MMO.
Funny how I never have a problem getting 7 others for a group
Well Obraik, thats good that your enjoying SWG, you are one of the few peeps that is still a diehard
to that game. As long as your enjoying yourself and getting your moneys worth.
I started playing SOE games in 1999 with the release of its popular everquest.
SWG just hasnt got any long term rewards for long term players, which is very disappointing.
The fact remain is this, I played the game for 3 years (which includes beta), I got nothing to
show for my time and effort I put into that game, UNLESS you want to show STAR WARS MEMORYS
in your house or bunker of items that are nothing but for SHOW.
All professions have been abortioned to 9 iconic toons, what a shame and Jedi being now being
a option at the newbie screen. (this smells way to funny and like a console game)
That game will more and likely head to the gaming consoles where you can use a joystick to play
and get your quick fix of Star Wars in your veins. Its not a mature game anymore, its more for
kids now than ever with no long term rewards or character development.
I'm not an SWG defender. I hate the NGE and won't play it, but let's use some logic here people. That picture of Mustafa is ONE POINT on the whole planet. A point I only pass through going somewhere else. If that one pass-though point is that crowded, it leads me to believe the planet has more people on it. Think a little before posting please.
Second, why would people hang out at Theed and Coronet? Oh that's right, those were the main planets when all you had to get around was shuttles, maybe THAT'S why they were always so crowded. Then let's add to that, that people would hang around Coronet to get Doctor buffs, but those are gone too. Then they'd hand around Theed and Coronet to get Entertainer buffs, but those are gone too. So why the hell would Coronet and Theed be busy the way the game is now? The planet you would think would be busy is: Mustafa.
I understand people don't like the game. I understand that people like to bash things they don't like, but at least bash it with something real. I don't like the fact that by those pictures it appears SWG isn't as doomed as I had hoped it would be, but that doesn't change the fact that more people than we'd like are playing the game.